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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:35 PM
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New Poll: Clinton/Rudy Dead Heat
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 09:36 PM by CorpGovActivist
NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, released today: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-8&q=clinton+giuliani+dead+heat

Yikes.

- Dave
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:39 PM
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1. wait until America --
--actually hears Giuliani.

He's going no place but further down.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:41 PM
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4. We said that about Bush as well
a race this close would be very easy to steal.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:17 PM
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20. Wait until the MEDIA spends a year boosting him, and smearing her.
Guliani in a landslide.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:39 PM
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2. Am I missing something?
"According to the poll, Clinton leads Giuliani by just one point, 46 percent to 55 percent, a statistical tie."

Or did they make a mistake?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:41 PM
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3. That's a Typo...
... I noticed it, too. Other versions of the story have it right, with 46 to 45.

- Dave
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:42 PM
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5. Thanks. I was thinking that my adding just isn't what it used to be.
:-)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:57 PM
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10. I thought it was just the newest version of the BushCo accounting system
You know, the formula that tells us that tens of thousands of layoffs, billions in mortgage foreclosures, skyrocketing prices for food and fuel, PhD's flipping burgers = "A strong economy."

.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:44 PM
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6. The more people hear Hillary, the more she turns them off
The voters will turn to the man in the blue suit(John Edwards).
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:45 PM
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7. Im So Sick Of This....


....For crying out loud....there is a year to go and the conventions haven't been held.......Hillary and Rudy are going to screw up, you cant go that long without being battered and discredited in which case both have much skeletons in their closets yet to come out.


I am so tired of the candidate crossing party lines to take swings at each other...I thought they were to first run against each other within their own party then after the convention the two party's were suppose to take the gloves off...

It ain't going to be Hill and Rudy...America is screaming for REAL CHANGE and these two are far from that...they are the DOLLS/WHORES of the media.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:53 PM
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8. We Need a Better Candidate!
GORE FOR PRESIDENT!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:55 PM
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9. BULL FUCKING SHIT. It's a contrived media horse-race for the ratings.
So, General Electric and a conservative financial newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch find a cross-dressing, lying freak tied in a dead heat with a corporate shill. Notice how since BushCo installed it's new voting system, EVERY election is a virtual tie?

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:58 PM
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11. State-by-State Alternate Polls...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:05 PM
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12. Hillary Or Il Douche In Heat?
Bad visual. I'll never get to sleep.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:32 PM
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13. other polls and earlier NBC/WSJ poll - all other polls have a much larger margin during that week
.THE LAST POLL BY NBC/WSJ WAS 2 MONTHS AGO
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Neil Newhouse (R). Sept. 7-10, 2007. N=1,002 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1 (for all adults). RV = registered voters. Some matchups asked of half the sample.

"If the next election for president were held today, and were the Republican candidate and were the Democratic candidate, for whom would you vote?"

Rudy
Giuliani (R)....... Hillary Clinton (D.....) Depends (vol.) Neither/.....Other (vol.........Unsure
% % % % %
9/7-10/07

42 49 - 5 4


Other polls

USA Today/Gallup Poll. Nov. 2-4, 2007. N=932 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

.

"Thinking now about the general election for president, which will be held in November 2008. Suppose the election were being held today -- If were the Democratic Party's candidate and were the Republican Party's candidate, who would you vote for: , the Democrat or , the Republican?" If unsure: "As of today, do you lean more toward , the Democrat or , the Republican?" Names rotated

.

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Other
(vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %
11/2-4/07

45.....51......1....2.....1

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Nov. 2-4, 2007. N=929 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.

.

"If were the Democratic Party's candidate and were the Republican Party's candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for: , the Democrat, or , the Republican?" If unsure: "As of today, who do you lean more toward?" Names rotated

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Neither (vol.) Other (vol.) Unsure
% % % % %
11/2-4/07 45 51 4 1 1


Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. Oct. 31-Nov. 1, 2007. N=1,002 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

"Suppose you had to choose between , the Democrat, and , the Republican. Who would you be more likely to vote for?" If other/unsure: "As of today do you lean more toward , the Democrat, or , the Republican?" Names rotated

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Other (vol.)/
Unsure
% % %
10/31 - 11/1/07

45 49 6

"Suppose you had to choose among , the Democrat, , the Republican, and Michael Bloomberg, the independent. Who would you be most likely to vote for?" If other/unsure: "As of today do you lean more toward , the Democrat, , the Republican, or Bloomberg, the independent?" Democratic and Republican choices rotated

.

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Michael
Bloomberg (I) Other (vol.)/
Unsure
% % % %
10/31 - 11/1/07

38 44 11 7


ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Oct. 29-Nov. 1, 2007. N=1,131 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS.

.

"If the 2008 presidential election were being held today and the candidates were , the Republican, and Hillary Clinton, the Democrat, for whom would you vote?" Options rotated. Includes leaners.

.

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Neither (vol.) Won't Vote
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %
10/29 - 11/1/07
46
50
2
1
1


WNBC/Marist Poll. Oct. 29-Nov. 1, 2007. N=811 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.5.

.

"If the 2008 presidential election were held today, whom would you support if the candidates are ?"

.

Rudy
Giuliani (R) Hillary
Clinton (D) Unsure
% % %
10/29 - 11/1/07
40
50
10
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:31 PM
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21. Thanks for Posting Other Polling Data...
... see #11 upstream for some cool links that break out poll-of-polls on a state-by-state basis.

- Dave
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:58 AM
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22. Thznks :-)
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:34 PM
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14. Means shit. That freak is unknown to Americans so far.
ANY Dem candidate will crucify him.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:38 PM
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15. If only the media would do their job and tell the truth about Rudy.
They're doing a decent job, for them, telling something of the truth on Hillary, but they've fallen into that same patriotic blackmail of not questioning anyone associated with 9/11.

After the 2004 vote, when enough Americans voted for Junior to allow them to steal it, I don't have much faith in Americans to avoid gullibility.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:45 PM
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17. you mean like they did about dumbya...?
NOT!!

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:40 PM
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16. Rudy cannot become president and this country make it any longer.
Of all the candidates, he's one of the most dangerous, especially with the unitary executive setup (which is why we should impeach and reestablish the rule of law as much as possible).
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:10 PM
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18. Rudy is like Bush on steroids.
It's hard to believe there is someone out there worse than Bush, but I look at Rudy and think 'oh my god, there is!'. He's actually more belligerent, more smarmy, more war mongering, more apt to shut down dissent, and in short, more dangerous than our present Dear Leader. The only hope for the planet if Rudy gets in is our economy goes into total meltdown and we become unable to function. Terrible way to go, but a strong America led by Rudy, is a dead planet. No, I'm not joking.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:17 PM
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19. What a thought. America might just have to self-destruct to save the planet.
Ouch!
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