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Posted with permission: by Chaoslillith Diary at Daily Kos
Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 07:49:55 PM EST
Just to update those who may have missed this story. It looks like a lot of those "flyover states", "hopelessly red", "redneck", "bubba" states decided to kick the corrupt Reps out of office.
Chaoslillith's diary :: ::
So now what do you all say about Edwards' and Dean's 50 state strategy? I have seen people deride Edwards for saying he is the most electable in all the states because of his rural outreach. I have seen Edwards called racist on some sites as well as here, I have seen people complain that the rural vote is pointless because people in Kentucky and other southern states are bigoted asses who are too stupid to vote for anyone other than a Republican.
Now we have proof to the contrary. Do you think these people will vote for "Monsanto" Clinton? These people want to vote for someone who does not look down on them, who realizes that they are truly important to our country.
It always cracks me up when people complain about rural America because I often wonder why they feel the need to bash the people that historically grew their food and made their cars. I see people complain about imported food and wanting food grown locally and things to be made in the USA but then turn around and write off the states that have historically been our manufacturing centers. It's self-defeating.
Edwards is reaching out to those people who have been shortchanged by the Dem party for years now and in doing so is doing more to bring this country together than Obama's amazing speeches. Edwards is breaching the divide of red and blue, I find it interesting that when people are asked about Edwards political stance he gets a lot of votes saying he is a conservative even though his stances and plans are populistic progressive. It shows how far tweaked our political identities have become in this country.
Another interesting thing today's Rasmussen shows Hillary has lost 6 points in NH. Link
Clinton has also lost ground in New Hampshire, home of the first-in-the-nation Presidential Primary. A Rasmussen Reports poll released today shows the frontrunner with a ten-point lead over Obama in the Granite State. That’s down from a sixteen-point lead before last week’s debate. Clearly, that debate has given an opening to Clinton’s rivals, but the big question is still whether it shake things up enough to derail the frontrunner. Separate survey data shows that 39% of voters think she is Very Likely to be the Democratic nominee. Only 11% say the same about Obama.
More detailed link and in the Daily tracking Edwards is gaining points, Hillary losing and Obama stalled. Edwards has gained 5 points in 6 days.
At 34%, Clinton’s current level of support is the lowest measured in any Rasmussen Reports poll this year. Four previous polls in New Hampshire found her consistently in the 37% to 40% range.
This is the first poll of the race conducted since Senator Hillary Clinton’s debate gaffe concerning drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. In the last poll before that debate, Clinton held a sixteen-point advantage over Obama. A month earlier, Clinton was ahead by twenty-three percentage points.
The current poll also shows that Clinton’s favorability ratings have dropped. Among New Hampshire’s Likely Voters, 72% now offer a positive assessment of the frontrunner. That’s down from 81% prior to the debate. Obama is viewed favorably by 82%, Edwards by 76%.
As in earlier surveys, Clinton continues to benefit from a substantial gender gap. She is tied with Obama among male voters but has a seventeen point advantage among women. Forty percent (40%) of women have a Very Favorable opinion of Clinton while only 8% have a Very Unfavorable view.
The results are far different among men—22% Very Favorable and 16% Very Unfavorable. A recent analysis of national survey results found that Clinton might attract a sizable number of Republican women while losing Democratic men to the GOP candidate.
What we need to remember is the General Election is about the WHOLE COUNTRY, not just the states that always vote Dem. Edwards picked up a ton of labor endorsements as well as endorsements from people in the Southern and traditionally Red states as displayed by his near sweep of the SEIU endorsements. If those states are willing to switch so much for the local and state elections can you imagine what they would do if the Dem party was represented by someone who understands, RESPECTS and can reach out to them? We could have a mass landslide in the election and pick up more Dem seats in Congress. Isn't that what is the most important thing to think about for our future?
Do any of you REALLY think Clinton would get any real support in any Red state? Seriously.
When you look at all the polls for the general there is the trend that Edwards does the best against the Reps in all states and many red states.
Link and from Rasmussen 4 days ago Edwards Edwards does best against Romney and Mccain and there is this interesting tidbit
Voters are more likely to regard Edwards as liberal than moderate, and to regard McCain as moderate rather than conservative; Romney is more often considered conservative than moderate. A preponderance of moderates prefer Edwards over the Republican in both match-ups.
Rasmussen also noted that Clinton's lead in Minnesota against the Reps is narrowing this week.
Several people have spoken about the large dollars raised in this election season like it was symbolic of who is going to win. Well back in May Edwards had raised the most amount of money from Southern states compared to BOTH Dems and Reps and according to Opensecrets there are still several Southern states where he is the top Dem and beats out most of the Republicans as well. Edwards takes the Red States seriously and the people there realize it. This is a once in a lifetime chance to pound the Republicans into near obsolecence and to do that we NEED someone who can connect with ALL AMERICANS no matter what race, gender or creed they are. Edwards does this by addressing the REAL problems this country faces and people see it. Edwards True Blue Majority this is dated Oct 18th.
"We need a leader who can compete anywhere in America, and win," said former Georgia Governor Roy Barnes. "Some pundits say that a Democrat can't win in some places in the South, Midwest or West. But they're wrong. The right Democratic presidential nominee – one who shares our values, understands our issues and offers real and bold solutions – can win these states. That candidate is John Edwards."
"It is so important that we nominate a candidate who will motivate swing voters in battleground states, like Wisconsin, to support the Democratic Party in 2008," said Dawn Marie Sass, Wisconsin State Treasurer. "Poll after poll in the battleground states shows Edwards to be the strongest Democratic challenger in a general election match-up with the leading Republicans. Edwards' strength at the top of the ticket will help Democrats not only to take back the White House, but also to maintain and expand our majorities in Congress and state legislatures. And his coattails will help lead Democrats to victory in hundreds of other down-ballot races at the state and local level as well."
In a memo released Thursday, Edwards campaign pollster Harrison Hickman of Global Strategy Group analyzed nationwide general election polling to show why Edwards is the Democrat with the best chance of defeating the Republican candidate in the 2008 general election for president, saying most notably:
* Edwards is the only Democrat with a significant lead against Republican frontrunner Giuliani, and Edwards' average margin of victory is identical to or greater than Senator Obama's, well ahead of Senator Clinton's, against the other Republican candidates.
* In looking at the overall win-loss-tie records, Edwards again has the best total record.
"Edwards also outperforms the other Democratic candidates in match-ups with Republican candidates in key battleground states including Iowa, Missouri, and Ohio," said Hickman. "Further, unlike other Democrats who must 'run the table' in states where Democrats have been competitive in recent elections, Edwards brings new states into play."
On Thursday, elected leaders and labor leaders in Georgia, Oklahoma and Wisconsin held press events and conference calls to discuss their reasons for supporting Edwards. The Edwards campaign also released lists of Democratic leaders from these states who have endorsed Edwards, including more than 50 endorsements from Georgia, more than 40 endorsements from Wisconsin, and endorsements from 32 of the 68 Democrats in the Oklahoma legislature.
"We need a leader who can compete anywhere in America, and win," said former Georgia Governor Roy Barnes. "Some pundits say that a Democrat can't win in some places in the South, Midwest or West. But they're wrong. The right Democratic presidential nominee – one who shares our values, understands our issues and offers real and bold solutions – can win these states. That candidate is John Edwards."
"It is so important that we nominate a candidate who will motivate swing voters in battleground states, like Wisconsin, to support the Democratic Party in 2008," said Dawn Marie Sass, Wisconsin State Treasurer. "Poll after poll in the battleground states shows Edwards to be the strongest Democratic challenger in a general election match-up with the leading Republicans. Edwards' strength at the top of the ticket will help Democrats not only to take back the White House, but also to maintain and expand our majorities in Congress and state legislatures. And his coattails will help lead Democrats to victory in hundreds of other down-ballot races at the state and local level as well."
In a memo released Thursday, Edwards campaign pollster Harrison Hickman of Global Strategy Group analyzed nationwide general election polling to show why Edwards is the Democrat with the best chance of defeating the Republican candidate in the 2008 general election for president, saying most notably:
* Edwards is the only Democrat with a significant lead against Republican frontrunner Giuliani, and Edwards' average margin of victory is identical to or greater than Senator Obama's, well ahead of Senator Clinton's, against the other Republican candidates.
* In looking at the overall win-loss-tie records, Edwards again has the best total record.
"Edwards also outperforms the other Democratic candidates in match-ups with Republican candidates in key battleground states including Iowa, Missouri, and Ohio," said Hickman. "Further, unlike other Democrats who must 'run the table' in states where Democrats have been competitive in recent elections, Edwards brings new states into play."
On Thursday, elected leaders and labor leaders in Georgia, Oklahoma and Wisconsin held press events and conference calls to discuss their reasons for supporting Edwards. The Edwards campaign also released lists of Democratic leaders from these states who have endorsed Edwards, including more than 50 endorsements from Georgia, more than 40 endorsements from Wisconsin, and endorsements from 32 of the 68 Democrats in the Oklahoma legislature.
More at Link
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You can't find the solution to a problem with the same thinking that created the problem." - Einstein. Edwards = Different Thinking
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