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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:25 AM
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Deja vu all over again
The folks who are insisting repeatedly that they cannot vote for Clinton no matter what, remind me of the folks in 2000 who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Gore.

It's really no different. You can insist it is 'till the cows come home, but essentially it's the same thing for the same reasons. Do what you gotta do, by all means, but it's sad that some people can't seem to learn.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:27 AM
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1. ... and that would be your opinion.
Thanks for that. Now allow us ours.

:hi:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:28 AM
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2. I don't know - we are still in the nominating process
It's fair to argue that you won't support a candidate to push support to a more acceptable candidate. Let's face it, if the nomination were made by DU Clinton would have no chance (and Kucinich would presumably be the front runner).

When actually faced with Clinton vs. a Republican, knowing what we know now, I suspect many will change their minds.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:30 AM
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5. sure it is. it's the folks who insist that if she's the nom, they
won't vote for her under any circumstances. And the thing is, I'm not even convinced she's going to be the nom. She's in a three way race in Iowa, and I think if she doesn't win it, she's in huge trouble.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:28 AM
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3. end result, we get a true neo-con that jocks corporations over workers
It seems that we have a choice between a lock step corporate puppet, and HRC. HRC is at least a pro-choice neo-con. That should be enough for Democrats. Lets be a little less evil then the GOP.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:31 AM
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8. it would be enough for me
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 11:39 AM by cali
but I'll add the federal bench, the environment, things like ENDA and SCHIP, to the list of why I'll vote for any dem nom.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:35 AM
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11. She is most certainly pro-corporate..
I don't see her as a true neocon, though. What makes you come to that conclusion?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:28 AM
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4. I know what Gore learned -be yourself and don't try to look like a Republican.
The Gore of 2007 is not the Gore of 2000.

Perhaps he was emboldened by the show of strength from the left wing and so removed his Lieberman mantle and started talking about what he cared about.

It's a shame Hillary has learned nothing from 2000.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:31 AM
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6. Actually, I see it a different way.
Corporations wanted Bush over Gore. Now they are OK with Hillary.
Hillary is our best chance of beating the GOP. Either way, we, the progressives, lose.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:32 AM
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9. It must be wonderful to be so all knowing. n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:33 AM
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10. He he. I knew you were going to say that!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:31 AM
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7. I think that if Clinton were to win in the Primaries that most people..
would hold there noses as they voted for her as opposed to a Republican taking the WH again.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:37 AM
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12. yep. Hold my nose and shed a tear for what could have been. But
it's not me that it will hurt if she wins - it will be the poor soldiers in Iraq and probably by then Iran who we will be disinheriting.
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