Kucinich is killing politics as we knew it.

[BornagainDUer]

The push for impeachment raises the bar for all the other candidates. They won't be able to jabber about UFO's,
and women candidates in a world of men woes.

Kucinich forces the fundamental issues to the fore in a masterful move. Masterful because it is morally the right thing to do and, residually, a politically smart thing to do. He is a conduit that reflects the anger, indeed the fury, the American public feels toward this whole faaaaked up political environment as we watch the body bags stack up.
Ron Paul had to jump on the bandwagon. Remember, remember the 5th of this November. It was Kucinich who took the lead and Paul was playing catch-up. It was Kucinich from the beginning who condemned this war mongering cabal of loonies; it is Kucinich who stood up and called for Impeachment. The rest of the pack are simply in a daze.

[Hydra]

1. Politics will go on

expect to hear about haircuts, handouts and definitions of torture.

On the other hand, we might have a VERY smeared Dick Cheney soon...and that will be worth something, even if he doesn't get jailed.

[nashville_brook]

2. amen.

[kestrel91316]

3. I've got NO problem with what DK is doing. HE'S THE MAN.

[slipslidingaway]

4. Kucinich is my candidate, but Paul has been on the bandwagon

about Iraq even before Kucinich, check the '98 vote.

[stirlingsliver]

5. Truly "New" Politics

Dennis Kucinich really has introduced a totally new type of politics.

Unlike so many other politicians, who simply warmed over hash.

[Mme. Defarge]

6. I posted this earlier ...

Here is a definition of a leader that I got way back in grad school. It resonates with me as much today as it did then. Unfortunately, I don't remember the source, but it goes like this:

A leader is someone who, grounded in hope, and together with followers, acts with courage to make an inauthentic situation authentic.

According to this definition, someone who rules by coercion is a despot, not a true leader. Nor does the title of leader bestow true leadership.

By this definition, Dennis Kucinich is the embodiment of a leader. In contrast, the lack of courage and apparent hopelessness the Democratic Party "leadership" is, in fact, serving to alienate would-be followers.

[slipslidingaway]

7. Thanks :) n/t

[redqueen]

23. I like that.

:)

[BornagainDUer]

24. Thanks

:hi:

[Desertrose]

8. kick

[mmonk]

9. Lobbyist money in one's pocket makes it easier for congressional leaders not to get

it. Dennis is on a higher moral plane most of the others will never reach.

[bonito]

10. I'm all in for Dennis, as well as H.R. 3835

And it needs some love. Peace

[puebloknot]

11. Yes!!!! Dennis Kucinich can win if we support him *because* he's show...

...courage and integrity.

[defendandprotect]

12. Promise me he's going to get taller . . . because I need to be able to vote for him -- !!!!

[BornagainDUer]

17. He's head and shoulders above the others...

on the issues.

[wildbilln864]

13. Bravo!

Go Dennis! :patriot:

[pberq]

14. Kucinich for president!

[Pooka Fey]

15. Dennis Kucinich has my undying gratitude for this. nt

[BrklynLib at work]

16. Recommended and Kicked ..

[guruoo]

18. Timing was perfect, IMHO.

[BornagainDUer]

20. History will tell of this. The day we separated the wheat from the chaff.

[spindoctor]

19. K&R

:kick:

[Seabiscuit]

21. So what would the MSM have us believe?

That if DK looked like a spoiled rotten smirking chimp born with a silver spoon in his mouth that Tweety'd love to have a beer with, he'd be electable?

What does it take for Americans to come to their senses and follow this man where he is attempting to lead us?

[superkia]

25. Most of those Americans probably have no clue who DK is.

Most people I know, get most of their political and world news from our controlled media and really have no clue whats happening to their country. When Americans ignore the MSM and search out and find out who stands for the people, they still have to believe in the ones that are behind us and try their best to ignore the MSM. I would love to see the media replay all of the speeches that were leading us into an illegal war with no evidence, then maybe people could see who was on who's side.

Its one thing to "accidentally" vote for an illegal war but to get up and speak about Iraq, Saddam and Al Quiada like Bush was doing just tells me something about those people and their agendas. Everyone should look into their own candidates vote and speeches back then and ask yourself if they should be in charge of our children's future?

[Seabiscuit]

36. The MSM is deliberately blocking DK from public view.

E.g. the (ABC website?) photo of the Dem debaters on stage a while back which excluded DK. All the MSM talks about is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary with a couple of Obamas thrown in and an occasional slur about Edwards' haircut or new house. When, of course, they're not singing the praises of Ghouliani and McCain&Able... or endlessly yapping about Britney's meltdowns, Paris Hilton's latest courtroom stunts amd sneers, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

I can't say that the wilfully ignorant sheeple deserve what they get because we get stuck with it as well, and we don't deserve it one bit.

The MSM is as much our enemy as the neocon crime syndicate.

[Vidar]

22. K&R.

[datavg]

26. No...

...what's going to happen is Kucinich will make the House Democrats look like they're all nuts. This is precisely what Pelosi and Hoyer are trying to keep from happening.

Republicans held the House for fourteen long years and one of the reasons it's taken so long to get it back was because most people in the south and west think liberals are all nuts!

You can berate me all day long for this, but I wouldn't stick my neck out if I didn't know I was right.

We can't do this without hearings and a Special Prosecutor...and I've noticed that's missing. Even if Pelosi decided she wanted to proceed with impeachment, there wouldn't be time for everything that has to happen in order for it to come to a vote.

Iowa is in sixty days! I can't think of anything more distracting than the possibility of impeachment hearings that we all know won't go anywhere because of the situation in the Senate.

Kucinich is nuts! He was always nuts, going back to when he was mayor of Cleveland.

We're in the middle of a war, and the truth is just because a bunch of long haired graybeards from the Sixties and crazy college kids in sandals disagree with Bush doesn't justify impeachment! Pelosi, Hoyer and Conyers all know this. Alcee Hastings said as much. Any first year Constitutional Law student knows it.

Even Hillary knows it. She voted for the war! And she's gonna be the nominee!

Here are the facts. Bush won in 2000 and 2004...and we have to get over that. I suspect a lot of this is coming from people who haven't gotten over it and think they're gonna pull off some kind of end run before this administration leaves office.

One of the reasons Bush won in 2004 was because the Democrats nominated someone who most of us from the very fucking beginning knew was not electable. Kerry was a dead duck. Edwards would have been better...but he wasn't the nominee. Democrats were desperately trying to change their image in southern and western states and then they nominate Michael Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor for President! I can't think of a worse message to send...except for allowing Dennis Kucinich to introduce an impeachment resolution in the middle of a fucking war!

When you ask what effect impeachment hearings would have on voter behavior in Texas and Georgia and North Carolina and Florida, the answer seems clear.

Especially in Florida. Jesus, this could put Rudy Giuliani in the White House! By itself. Or maybe even Romney, God help us all.

Why the fuck are we doing this?

I've been watching campaigns since I was kid during the seventies, and I'm telling ya...this is the wrong thing to do right now. This is suicidal.

Then again, this is how Dennis Kucinich has lived his professional life. He plunged Cleveland into bankruptcy just to make a political statement in 1979. That city is feeling the effects of his tenure to this very day.

Pelosi needs to put the heel of her Manolos on his neck before he destroys the party. The Senate may be the most deliberative body in the world but the House is all about party discipline. Nancy Pelosi needs to snap this man into line, but maybe that's the problem. I wondered when she took the job if she was strong enough for it.

Maybe that's why all this is happening.

[BornagainDUer]

31. Against impeachment in a fucking war? Are you arguing that

Nixon should never have been impeached?



The rest of your post is so cluttered with idiotic knee-jerk responses that I won't waste my time with but one more.

"Pelosi should snap this man in line"? Now how fucking democratic is that. This isn't some goddamn military bootcamp. :eyes:

[datavg]

37. You Obviously...

...don't know anything about how the House of Representatives works.

The House is supposed to be partisan, where the Senate's politics and culture are a little more about the individual.

If we had a strong Speaker, Dennis wouldn't be carrying on like this. Jim Wright would never have allowed it.

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to believe what's going on in the House right now is very much about Nancy Pelosi's weakness and inexperience in that position.

The Democratic caucus should probably replace her...with Rahm Emanuel.

After this is all over, maybe they will.

[BornagainDUer]

39. Are you a repiggie? Now don't do as so many others do and say

I called you one. Just asking.

[louis-t]

27. Ron Paul didn't just jump on the bandwagon.

He's been speaking intelligently for a long time. I could hardly believe he was a repuke the first time I heard him speak. If there were more like him in the republecccchhhhhh party, maybe things wouldn't be so bad.

[BornagainDUer]

40. So you are for Ron Paul?

[tavalon]

28. Do not underestimate these fools

They will escalate the talk of UFOs if Kucinich gets traction with this, well, appropriate behavior. We can't be having any of that!

[BornagainDUer]

32. It will be interesting to see. I agree that they will try to keep things superficial

but it will get increasingly hard to do with a guy like Dennis around. He should confront the newswhores with their stupidity.

[tavalon]

33. I've been keeping my powder dry for Gore

It dooesn't look like Gore is getting in so I guess my money goes to Kucinich. I certainly wouldn't send any to any of the others (well Edwards)

[tavalon]

41. If he does and does it well

he may well stop being "unelectable" in the fastest heartbeat ever.

[alllyingwhores]

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[catrose]

30. KUCINICH! eom

[LWolf]

34. That's a positive move, in my book. n/t

[Megahurtz]

35. Go Get 'Em, Dennis!!!

[deacon]

38. I'm sold...i'm sick of the PC crap and the cowardice. At least he has the balls to call it

like it is.