'24' chief scoffs at Hillary - Joel Surnow

[RamboLiberal]

Hollywood producer Joel Surnow dismissed as "nuts" the notion that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton can be elected president and said he and other conservatives in the entertainment industry are leaning toward supporting Republican Rudolph W. Giuliani's presidential campaign.

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"I'm not even sure that Hillary is a fait accompli as this point," Mr. Surnow told a group of reporters and bloggers in a wide-ranging interview during the Young America's Foundation's (YAF) West Coast Leadership Conference. "Are we nuts thinking Hillary Clinton could be president of this country? Honest to God, just stand back and think about it."

Saying that he was "probably going to get behind Rudy" for the White House, Mr. Surnow named comedian Dennis Miller as another entertainer who has "come out" as a conservative in the overwhelmingly liberal Hollywood environment and said that another popular comedian, Adam Sandler, "is going to come out and support Rudy Giuliani."

Former Attorney General John Ashcroft was the keynote speaker at Saturday's conference, which YAF spokesman Jason Mattera said was attended by more than 500 student activists and foundation supporters.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071112/NATION/111120058/1001

What a bunch of idiot Aholes. Hillary is not my first choice but there is a part of me that would just laugh my buns off if she won and aholes like Surnow, Dennis Miller and the other wingnuts had to eat their words and deal with 8 years of Hillary and Bill.

Also time to put the crap about "liberal Hollywood" to bed - hell "Wingnut Hollywood" is just as active and maybe even more vocal!

I'll confess I've liked 24 as a show, but I'm glad the writer's strike has it on hiatus for now and I hope it doesn't come back till 2009 long after the election!

[meegbear]

1. She'll fair better than your "Half-Hour News Hour" did

[DinahMoeHum]

2. I want a President - Surnow wants a dictator.

Fruity Rudy = Il Douche.

:evilfrown:

[spanone]

double post.

[spanone]

3. surnow and miller, ok that's two.

that's about how many consevatives there are in lala land

[Don Claybrook]

4. This will help with my Pinhead List

I have no idea who this self-impressed producer is. Miller was exposed as a troglodyte long ago, and now I can put Adam Sandler on the list. Given that I've never cared for Sandler's variety of humor, this makes the world feel just a little more settled into place for me.

And then there's Ashcroft....I may hate almost everything about him, but you have to give credit where it's due: he certainly kicked out all the jams with that rocking Let the Eagle Soar tune.

[MADem]

6. Adam Sandler, eh? Didn't he make that tasteless gay marriage movie?

Who's next on Giu-Giu's Endorsement List? That "Knicker Bellowing" Kramer idiot?

It seems to me that it's mostly comedians whose careers are tanking who go GOP. They get angry, and they channel their anger by allying themselves with a group that enjoys poorly thought out rants and screeds, accompanied by angry, bitter and cutting remarks that are short on cleverness but long on tribal posturing.

They figure they can get enough dough to get along by doing these GOP events.

I thought Sandler's best moment was the "Hannukah Song." After that, it was all downhill for him. I didn't find him funny either, especially when he did some of that "accent" humor (using the 'humor' word loosely, mind you).

[Bleacher Creature]

7. A-Rod just gave lots of cash to Giuliani. . .

How incredibly fitting.

[hlthe2b]

5. I watch 24 only because of Kiefer...Like his father before him...

a long-term liberal progressive. The rest of that show's production staff are largely RW cretins.

[MADem]

8. I think Kiefer's a bit of a sellout. He bears a share of the responsibility for the

"Torture Generation" that has no difficulty with using a baseball bat on anyone who is swarthy with an accent. He certainly doesn't put his 'values' at his workcenter, and he will be forever identified as a fictional character who is a rightwing bully. Fat Tony Scalia just LOVES the character!

He read the script, he knew what the role was about.

Hmmmm. His father came from the Pepsi Generation. Tempis fugit, I guess.

[hlthe2b]

9. One can say that of a number of actors playing roles

that are less than admirable.... I'm not sure I would hold an actor to that high a standard. Otherwise the role of Tony Soprano would forever haunt James Gandolfini as one small example, despite his recent wonderful documentary on our war wounded. Take a look at all the tremendous lib/progressive actors who have played less than honorable roles from our viewpoint... We'd have very few left on the list as acceptable, via your standards.

[MADem]

11. Gandolfini's Soprano role DOES haunt him. The smartest thing he did on that

documentary was stay off camera to the maximum extent possible. He offered himself up as a hook, to get people to tune in out of curiosity, and perhaps to encourage the wounded to speak with him.

But he stepped back--he was 'barely there' in that footage, and that, honestly was a GOOD thing.

Anytime I see Gandolfini, I think TONY SOPRANO. In that Mexico movie, in anything he does--to me, I see Tony trying to be someone else. It's his curse, like Bob Denver and Gilligan. Like JJ Walker and Dyn-O-MITE!!!!

I don't have a problem with a person playing "a role" against type. But when one takes on a series that is held up by the rightwing as a positive example of American manhood, and used as an example by a Supreme Court justice and members of this administration, there's some soul-searching that needs to happen.

It's like running a factory that pollutes the environment, but driving to work in a hybrid, living in a "green" house, and recycling faithfully. And then trying to INSIST that you're a "socialist" (that's how Kiefer self-identifies) because you're a good boy in your 'personal' life.

I also think, getting back to the Soprano reference, when I see Tony/James, "There's that fat bastard who dumped his wife once he started getting a little fame because he had the utter balls to say SHE was getting fat! Hubris-laden large-gutted putz!!!"

But, eh, whatever. His documentary was a fine job. And I hope the old gal got a GOOD payday from the lard assed, gabbagoo-munching bum.

[hlthe2b]

12. I had to go google Gandolfini's divorce after your comments...

I came so late to the table re: Sopranos (no HBO and just watched all the series on Blockbuster DVDs in recent months), so I had no idea.... Damn... what a creep. Maybe he learned something from the whole experience. One can only hope....

[MADem]

14. He started to believe his own Bada Bing hype. I really don't think he learned a thing. NT

[Initech]

10. All I have to say is..

If season 7 isn't good, it's the last season I watch. Season 6 was pretty unbearable except for a few hours.

I'm a huge fan of the show but I don't like Sunrow's radical right wing views. No way in hell do I want 911iani in charge.

[11 Bravo]

13. And the Moonie Times has the story on the Front Page.

This is the same "newspaper" that ran the story about Fred Thompson's campaign co-chair being a drug peddler on page A 4. The same paper which constantly whines about entertainers mixing in politics. I guess if you can find a rightwing asshat in the entertainment field, suddenly show biz types have credibility.

[MADem]

15. Chris Matthews spent his whole hour wiping his ass on Clinton and putting

Obama up on the cross and praying to him as if he were the second coming. Edwards he painted as "Oh well, running as a populist, and now on to that marvellous Obama, and isn't that Hillary a bitch?"

That's shorthand, but that was basically 'it.' It was like Jughead was serving as the Minister of Propaganda, feeding Tweety his lines.

I wonder if GE-MSNBC has decided they want an OBAMA-Giuliani matchup. Sure seems that way of late.