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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 02:54 PM
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Sunni tribal leader: “Once Anbar is settled, we must take control of Baghdad, and we will.”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/11/19/071119fa_fact_anderson?currentPage=3

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A few days before General Petraeus testified before Congress, I met with Sheikh Zaidan al-Awad, a prominent Sunni tribal leader from Anbar. The last time I had seen him, in 2004, he was full of hostile bluster about the U.S., and made no secret of his identification with the “resistance,” as he described the hard-line Sunni insurgents. Sheikh Zaidan was a fugitive, suspected by the Americans of being a sponsor of the insurgency, and he was living in voluntary exile in Jordan. But when we spoke this fall, in an apartment in Amman, Zaidan told me that he had recently met for informal talks with American military and intelligence officials, because he approved of what they were now doing—allowing Sunni tribesmen to police themselves.

I asked Zaidan what sort of deal had led to the Sunni Awakening. “It’s not a deal,” he said, bristling. “People have come to realize that our fate is tied to the Americans’, and theirs to ours. If they are successful in Iraq, it will depend on Anbar. We always said this. Time was lost. America was lost, but now it’s woken up; it now holds a thread in its hand. For the first time, they’re doing something right.”

Zaidan said that Anbar’s Sunni tribes no longer had any need to exact blood vengeance on U.S. forces. “We’ve already taken our revenge,” he said. “We’re the ones who’ve made them crawl on their stomachs, and now we’re the ones to pick them up.” He added, “Once Anbar is settled, we must take control of Baghdad, and we will.” There would have to be a lot more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites, he said. “The Anbaris will take charge of the purge. What the whole world failed to do in Anbar, we have done overnight. Baghdad will be a lot easier.”

Many of the players in Iraq seemed, like Zaidan, to be positioning themselves for the next battle. While the Shiites issued warnings about the Sunnis’ intentions, nearly all the talk among the Americans was of the Mahdi Army and its reputed sponsor, Iran, which Petraeus accused of waging a “proxy war” in Iraq; there were dismissive references to Al Qaeda as a spent force.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:57 PM
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1. kick
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:15 PM
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2. Looks like a fight brewing:
Maliki is building a Shiite militia.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:16 PM
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3. and we are taking both sides...
:crazy:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:33 PM
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4. A calm before the Storm.
The Busholini Regime is trying to keep the US casualty rate as low as possible in order to
convince the American people that the US is "winning" in Iraq. The US Corp Media is in virtual
blackout regarding Iraq. The Sunni Insurgencies are being supplied money & weapons to fight al Q, which
they were doing before the "Surge". The high wire act of keep warring factions on the wire will be tested when the winds start blowing harshly soon. In actuality, there is a three way Civil War on the verge of imploding. The Busholini Regime has planned to hand that off to the next US Regime.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:35 PM
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5. al Sadr told his troops to lay low for 6 months - it's been 3 already...
this is all about al-Maliki and BushCo getting their headlines
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:34 PM
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7. Yep--right now it's all about the quick fix. Nothing they're doing over
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 05:36 PM by wienerdoggie
there will bring stability in the long run--reading the article, that becomes clear. It's all about getting the various factions on OUR side, and we're buying their loyalty as if we're going to be there forever--our soldiers are being used as bankers, jailers, beat cops, city managers and diplomats. Gotta pay off the sheiks to keep that troop death count low at all costs, before America gets any angrier and starts demanding a pullout. Thus Chimpy will be able to say, "things were going well when I left office", and then things will fall to shit on the next President. By the way, Moqtada Al Sadr curiously, and for no reason, stood down his army in August, and I'm sure it wasn't out of the goodness of his heart--I wonder how much we've been paying him to stand his army down? Thousands? Millions? edit to add: Petraeus has been meeting with Al-Sadr's deputies--why?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:35 PM
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6. The PNAC plan is unfolding.
Mess-O-Potamia indeed.
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