HUGE: Why is a Republican polling firm push polling Democrats in Iowa?

[originalpckelly]

For background information check out this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2276505&mesg_id=2276505

TwoSparkles says that it was "National Research" conducting the poll, and guess what? That's a real polling firm, but it doesn't usually work for Democrats, it is exclusively Republican!

Here's the website of the firm that I suspect is conducting these polls:
http://www.nationalresearchinc.com/index1.html

Here's a list of political clients from that site:
http://www.nationalresearchinc.com/political.html

Notice how they're all sort of, um, Republicans!??!!??

OK, so what the fuck is a Republican firm doing push polling Democrats who are going to attend the Iowa caucuses? Are they trying to manipulate the results of our primary to get a bad candidate to run against, like Donald Segretti and the other ratfuckers did in the '72 campaign?

Or are they testing out messages to use against our folks?

Barak Obama has been conspicuously missing from these push poll calls, but do we really think he'd hire a Republican polling firm to do this?

Or is it possible that we're meant to think he's playing dirty, when in reality it's a Republican trying torpedo his campaign so they don't have to run against him?

I'm definitely thinking this is some type of Republican dirty trick.

[MNDemNY]

1. SOP

[rurallib]

3. Agreed - I got one of the calls and that was my first impression

Usually if they are a true non-partisan company they will answer questions about their company. This lady hung up after one question too many (who hired you?).

[originalpckelly]

8. I'd like to ask you some questions if that's possible:

1. Can you confirm that the name of the pollster's company/organization was "National Research"?
2. Did you keep the phone number of the caller?
3. You said in TwoSparkles thread about this that you found out the call came from Columbus, Ohio. Did you find anything else out?

It would probably be helpful if you could give a summary of your conversation with this pollster, including the questions asked and the date and approximate time of the call in question.

Your answers will be deeply appreciated.

[rurallib]

25. I'll try

1) She never gave me the name of the company. She did say they were doing national research. That may have been the name.
2) I don't have caller ID, so I never got that.
3) Now that I think back, I am sure they said "OHIO" but not sure about the Columbus. I think my brain put that in as I was watching an OSU/Michigan story on TV right at that time. I think when she said 'Ohio" i may have put 'Columbus ' in. Sorry.

[Cha]

21. That's right and this is just

the proverbial TIP. There's tons of behind the scenes SOPs that we don't even know about, YET.

We bust out some great Progressive ads and they bust out their dirty SOPs.

[BrklynLiberal]

2. To screw the Democrats, of course.

[hlthe2b]

4. Just as I thought, when I heard about the nasty anti-Edwards poll

The Repugs are just trying to control the "show" and choose not only their candidate, but ours, of course--or at least poison the well.

[toadzilla]

10. they're scared. I don't believe the polls, Edwards is a sleeper.

[lapfog_1]

5. Segretti's ratfuckers

those tactics have never gone out of style... Rove just updated them and, I suspect, made them less connected to the candidate (or, the republican party).

No more safes with hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash for "black bag" jobs, no more ex-CIA and cubans doing bungled burglaries... no, now we have faked up planted documents just waiting to be found and used by a "liberal media" type so that when the forgery is exposed (as they know it will be), they can ruin the reputations of those they don't like. And other fake documents that support conclusions that the OSP wanted, counter to prevailing knowledge of the CIA, and it someone calls them on THOSE fakes (see yellowcake, Niger, Wilsons), they try to smear the reputation of the career government service people, one of them a covert CIA agent.

Yup, ratfucking. What an appropriate label. Almost ALWAYS a republican value.

[originalpckelly]

7. Watergate wasn't about a third rate burglary, it was about manipulating democracy.

Ed Muskie was running very well against Richard Nixon, and that's why he was target. They put out all these fake letters supposedly from his campaign to destroy him. I'm telling you, this sounds damn similar.

[Cha]

22. Hey, that's right! They sure got that

"3rd rate burglary" into the vernacular.

[OzarkDem]

9. or Roger Stone

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/nyregion/23stone.html

[wicket]

11. Ah yes, Roger Stone

That ratfucker was behind the "riot" during the Florida recount :grr:

[OzarkDem]

17. He and Rove have probably teamed up

working on screwing the Dems in the 2008 elections.

[Kingshakabobo]

20. He was on Hardball the other night. He must be coming out of the woodwork. n/t

[Cha]

23. CorporatemediaWhores on the

March against the Dems.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

6. k&r

people need to know.

[AllegroRondo]

12. The Repubs want Hillary to win

they see her as the candidate that they have the best chance to beat.

[NewHampster]

14. Yep they want you to believe that

Do you really think they tell you the truth?

[Froward69]

24. the rethugs are not

"Telling" us anything, yet She is the focus of their ire. more free press. Hillary, hillary, hillary all the time. mcain laughing at a Bit*h question. pushing who the "democrat" nominee is. they feel we Democrats are weak minded and will endorse whom they "hate" the most. its easy to see whom the rovian play book endorses as our nominee. its not obama, edwards, or Biden. Its hillary. follow the hate of republicans. easy to see. if you are willing to look.

[Faryn Balyncd]

13. K & R

[ddeclue]

15. Classic Lee Atwater dirty tricks...they want to hand pick their opponent to run against.

It's pretty clear that the Republicans WANT to run against Hillary since they think she is most vulnerable and are most afraid of John Edwards since that is who they are push polling..

Doug D.

[11 Bravo]

16. Why does shit stink? Some things just are what they are.

[Faryn Balyncd]

18. this thread deserves one more "R"

[saracat]

19. Except this push poll traces back to Lance Tarrance the managing director of Mark Penns firm!

[sundancekid]

26. other DU threads also look at ties to Mark Penn ... see for yourself