Archival footage- Kennedy and more

[RainDog]

oops! forgot the link.

This video is part of an eight hour set of vids that use news footage from the time when Kennedy was alive.

I knew one of his most famous phrases: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. What I didn't know is that he said that in relation to other nations in the Americas, as he called on leaders in these nations to accept responsibility for their fellow citizens, just as he said the U.S. needed to care about those with less wealth.

He castigated those in this country who did not support a better minimum wage, for those who want to deny the elderly a decent quality of life without bankrupting their children..

he noted that we "regard ourselves as a progressive society," yet Great Britain had unemployment insurance immediately after WWI, while people in the U.S. were still fighting against those who want to work but cannot find a job. He said this wage needs to be a living wage.

Kennedy noted we must:

Examine our attitude toward peace itself. I realize peace is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war, but we have no more urgent task. Peace is necessary …the rational end of rational men

also--

I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic nor Protestant, nor Jewish…where no public official will accept policy council from the pope, the national council of churches, or any other ecclesiastical body…

Sometimes I think Bush is the antichrist. He's absolutely the anti-Kennedy.

btw, the archival footage contains all sorts of news reports about Kennedy being shot in the right temple... this footage is before the story was "set."

Cronkite (in no. 1 of the 8 vids) noted at the time of Kennedy's murder, when everyone was going on about Oswald as a commie, that one of Russia's "major propagandists" said that (tried to get the exact quote...)

"Those who know how the securityof the president is organized know that it is not possible for a fanatic to do such an assassination. A political crime, throughly prepared and planned, has taken place... (and Cronkite called this part "inflammatory") It is not an accident this has taken place in the south, a stronghold of racist and other fascist scums."

One thing is for sure. The assassination did raise questions of a full-out attack on Russia, Cuba, etc... the nation was on alert. So the right-wingers almost got their total war then.

[silverweb]

1. Thanks!

Bookmarked for when I can watch the videos. :hi:

[RainDog]

3. you can download the second one and watch on QT, etc.

I'm just fascinated by all the footage.

Definitely can't watch it all in one sitting. I saw that whoever did these also sells copies. I don't know if it's a legit site or not, but I'd love to have this footage in that format.

[silverweb]

5. Fantastic.

I will definitely download the lot.

Despite his human imperfections (we need a SAINT for prez, dontchaknow!), he was a true humanitarian and progressive.

I'm convinced that the murders of JFK, MLK, and RFK were all linked, and the People of the United States and the world were robbed by a criminal conspiracy at very high levels. And I think that many of the same players are active today with the same motivations.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but I'm convinced it's true.

[RainDog]

6. I agree

...and the more I read about the situation, the more I am convinced that the conspiracy was total right wing treason, LBJ included.

The less you know about all the people allegedly involved, the easier it is to deny what happened. Not the anyone knows all of what happened, but there are plenty of pretty good outlines based upon primary sources.

btw, I just recently found out, while reading about the Garrison investigation and the memoir of Roger Craig (whose life was destroyed when he opposed the Dallas PD...) that the car park lot behind the grassy knoll was not a public lot. there was a bar across the entrance and keys for people who had rented space there (govt. employees, many of them.) And the guy who owned that lot was also connected to the Dallas PD. The bar wasn't across the entrance that day, which was unusual.

Craig also got files from the PD in Dallas after he was fired b/c he wouldn't change his story.

[silverweb]

8. You know much more detail than I do.

I've never studied all the details of the various reports, but the overall picture, especially when looked at in the context of history, is chilling.

[RainDog]

10. I don't really know a lot

btw, these vids also have editorial content...also music, etc. I wish they'd just left the footage alone. it's interesting enough as it is.

[Faygo Kid]

2. This anniversary I am going to recall JFK's life - not his death.

I was 12 when he was killed, so I remember it well. But I remember more, and this summer visited the JFK Library in Boston. Remarkable. That was my childhood - not a little child, but a child of 9 to 12, when it all starts to open up. In George Bush's America, I tire of the assassination of JFK as the sole focus of his life, along with some sordid personal details. He was a man of brilliance whose rhetoric inspired, and all things were possible then. I have been harshly critical during past anniversaries. This year, as we continue to face the challenges of the worst president in our history, I welcome recalling one who inspires.

[RainDog]

4. He really WAS so inspiring.

I was too young to know what was going on...tho I definitely remember seeing John-John salute. I also remember the tv running incessantly, but again I was too young to get it.

However, when I look back at my childhood, I developed a "societal" memory with the murder of MLK, then RFK (with JFK as the backdrop to all this).

This footage is fascinating to me because it's sort of the background noise when I was still concerned with chasing boys... not that I ever got over that, I just don't tackle them anymore.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

7. Dallas has always been far more conservative than Houston or Austin.

The John Birchers were active then.

And John-John, as we called him when he was a little boy, was the most handsome man of the 20th century, in my not so humble opinion. Another mysterious plane crash that happens to Democrats....

[RainDog]

9. Austin is a great city

I have family there and in Houston.

I think it's difficult to imagine the hatred leveled in the south, notably, at JFK b/c he was Catholic and because he was liberal. Too willing to take the diplomatic route rather than military might.

I have a "John Birch Society Coloring Book" from that era. The American Eagle in the coloring book has no left wing...