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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:28 AM
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*ahem* Huckabee's problems have just begun! Have you heard about THIS?....
Me thinks there's more to guitar playing Mr. Baptist Minister than meets the eye. PLENTY of garbage on this guy. They must be holding it back for the general election.;)


Personally using Public Money

Mike Huckabee has a record of dipping into public funds and accepting improper gifts from supporters, something worrisome for a job like president where you control a trillion dollar budget. He was investigated 16 times and cited five times by the Arkansas Ethics Commission for violating ethics rules. Two of those citations were for cash that the governor or his wife accepted but did not report. Huckabee's gifts peaked at $112,000 in 1999, including $23,000 worth of clothing; over half of that was given by one businessman who Huckabee appointed to a state board.

At one point, Huckabee claimed that he personally owned $70,000 in Governor's Mansion furnishings donated by cotton grower Boe Adams, but was forced to disavow them after Adams said they were for the state, not the governor. After he moved out in December 2006 though, no one could find the furniture even after a state audit. Huckabee's wife insisted they must be there somewhere.

In 1999, his former administrator at the Goveror's Mansion sued him for abuse of state funds, claiming that Huckabee used state funds for upkeep of the mansion on panty hose, barbecue, a dog house, dry cleaning, boat fuel, and alterations to his clothes. Huckabee settled out of court, by agreeing that legal doubts existed over his use of the fund and that he wouldn't use it for these purposes in the future.


Huckabee also used state police airplanes as a personal transportation service for him and his family, flying scores of times each year, including trips to other states with early presidential primaries. He claimed this was legitimate for security reasons.

In 1994, when he was lieutenant governor of Arkansas, Huckabee formed a non-profit organization called Action America, which seemed to exist only to deliver money to him without donors having to report or limit their contributions the way they would a normal political contribution. In 2 and a half years, Action America paid Huckabee over $61,000 just for giving speeches at its events.

When he was getting ready to move out of the governor's mansion, bridal registries were set up at Dillards and Target for the governor and his wife, who had been married for more than 30 years. They registered for nearly $7,000 in housewares, as well as $1,000 gift cards.

State ethics laws prohibited the Huckabees from receiving gifts of more than $100 as a reward for doing his job. But there was an exception for wedding presents.

Maybe it's just an Arkansas tradition -- Bill and Hillary Clinton registered for house gifts when they left the White House. An investigation found that they received over $75,000 worth of gifts but did not violate any federal laws. - publicmoney Sources <snip>

http://www.realchange.org/huckabee.htm#publicmoney


A Quick and Petty Anger

Mike Huckabee has stood out in this election for his consistently positive, upbeat performancs on TV and in debates. Those who have know him longer know a different side -- a vindictive, thin skinned anger. Since the president is the one we look to in time of crisis, this is a serious concern.

One quick example; as he was leaving office, Huckabee directed that a bunch of money that the legislature allotted for other programs be shifted to pay for a new faculty position at the University of Arkansas Medical School, named for the doctor who helped him lose 110 pounds. Legislators questioned the legality of this move, and even the medical school president suggested it might be better to do this the right way, by asking the legislature to approve the change. (This all happened just days before a new legislative session opened.) Huckabee got mad and cancelled all of the spending.

And shortly before leaving office, Huckabee took all of the money in the governor's emergency fund and spent it destroying the hard drives of over 100 computers in the governor's office, to protect what he called "the privacy" of the contents. The new governor literally had to find and spend $335,000 just to replace the hard drives and computers destroyed. And he still had not a penny in the emergecy fund -- designed to pay for extra expenses during hurricanes, torados, etc. -- for the last six months of the fiscal year. fiscal year. - Thin Skin Sources
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:29 AM
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1. He sounds like a mini Bush.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:42 PM
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31. he also says incredibly crass things about people, the quotes of
which I have been searching for for days. Anyone who can find them has a treasure trove of evil from this man. he likes to call people fat.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:06 PM
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62. He sounds more to me...
... like a mini Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Jerry Falwell, etc.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:30 AM
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2. You fail to understand...
these things don't matter when you are a Republican. Only Democrats have ethics issues.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:18 PM
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29. GAAWWWWWRRRD has forgiven them. So they can do what they like.

Up to and including the slaughtering of 600,000 people.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:30 AM
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3. I was talking to a person who calls herself an independent
who had Huckabee on her short list of candidates (which included Dems as well). I told her about Huckabee raising taxes in Arkansas, and she said that didn't bother her--but the pardoning of the murderer did. I think this information will also help her cross him off her list.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:33 AM
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4. the covenant marriage should be enough to scare any voter.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:34 AM
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5. But but but...
he's a CHRISTIAN. So it's okay.:eyes:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:40 PM
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24. Not just a christian, a minister who takes phone calls from god
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:34 AM
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but but but
at least he didn't register at malwart. went high class with target.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:34 AM
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6. My guess is that Republicans...
...are going after Huckabee.

There's no way he can win the GE. The Republicans want Guliani or Romney. They'll
do everything they can, including attacking fellow Republicans--to ensure
that this happens.



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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:37 AM
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7. Seems that Huckabee fits in perfectly
with the repuke culture. A lying, cheating, thieving, short tempered, rapist liberating, former pastor who uses Jesus as just another political tool.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:39 AM
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8. I don't see anything wrong with that.
After all, he is Republican. He is just following the Republican Code of Conduct.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:47 AM
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9. Maybe the clothes were handme downs!
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:14 PM
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23. After He Lost 110 lbs,
he needed all new clothes. You can't have the emperor wandering around naked...oh, wait. He's a Republican...they are *all* re-enacting that fable. Hucksterbee is just another greedy pig slurping from the public trough.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:49 AM
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10. Huckabee's a fucking lunatic...
Glad this nut's career is coming into the spotlight.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:38 AM
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54. Wouldn't it be better if it came into the spotlight after he won the nom?
I mean, we want the Repukes to select the worst possible candidate, right?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:55 AM
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60. I'm actually afraid that he just might win the nom...
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 11:58 AM by Hobarticus
...and could thus end up your next POTUS.

The further away Hick and Romney are from the nom, the better.

I can't decide who the lesser of evils is among the GOP condidates. Whoever that is, I hope he's the nom. Because they just might be the next POTUS.

Not because I don't believe in the strength of the Dem field. It's because America is full of fucking idiots who'd vote GOP, no matter what. I no longer trust the American people to make sound and sane decisions, as a whole, anymore. Even to save their own goddamned hides.

I never EVER would have bet in a million years that America would take Dubya back for four more years. And they did. Nothing could surprise me, anymore. You may just end up with a religious idealogue in the White House. That Romney and Huckabee are even serious contenders scares the living SHIT out of me, and it should you, too.

It'd take a severe trouncing of the GOP candidate to renew my faith in America. I've had it.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:02 PM
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61. But wouldn't this stuff make Huckabee unpopular enough to lose?
I think it would be better for his campaign to crash and burn after he gets the nom, but before the general election. I agree that the Dems need all the help they can get, particularly if Hillary is the candidate, and a meltdown by the Republican nominee might make the GOP so unpopular that even Diebold and voter caging/purges can't help them.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:41 PM
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66. I hope you're right...I really do
But I just have a "crisis of faith" with people right now.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:50 AM
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11. When's he gonna get his own televangelist show?
All that taxpayer funded training shouldn't go to waste.
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Diamond Dave Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:50 PM
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27. He and Dr. Phil need to get together. What a team that could be-
the two of them teamed up could possibly give Oprah a run for her money.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:53 AM
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12. Let me get this straight
From the posting: "Huckabee's gifts peaked at $112,000 in 1999, including $23,000 worth of clothing; over half of that was given by one businessman who Huckabee appointed to a state board."

Isn't the former Governor of Alabama, Don Siegelman, sitting in Federal prison for appointing a citizen to a state board who merely donated to a referendum that the Governor supported? -- ONLY IN BUSH'S AMURIKA
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:42 PM
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25. That's Alabama. Huck was governor of Arkansas. And Siegelman is a dem.
:sarcasm:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:59 AM
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13. K and R
Sounds like he's following in the footsteps of the other hypocritical preachers who enter politics. Don't you think Olbermann should be giving this guy 'Worst Person in the World' status????
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:59 AM
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14. Wow... that's scary.
Destroying computers? He's aggressively ignornat.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:16 AM
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18. Oh, dear. What was he afraid they'd find?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:59 AM
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15. panty hose?
"Huckabee used state funds for upkeep of the mansion on panty hose..."

Well, well, well.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:11 AM
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17. LOL
yeah that's a good one...panty hose perks. And so WHO was wearing em?
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:57 PM
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22. They *are* the big tent party, after all.
:spank:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:45 PM
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26. Rudy. (eom)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:33 PM
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47. Did someone say pantygate?
;-)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:08 AM
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16. Someone needs to get pictures of the furniture stolen in their home
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:23 AM
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19. Typical GOP Pol: spends the emergency $$ in CYA scrub of computers
Proof they don't consider regular people as constituents or even people. They think only their ruling class is human and worthy of any concern.

Money for emergency? Hell, keeping my ass outta jail IS an emergency! Fuck the people and any needs they may have! Me 'n my patrons have needs! <--Yeah, that's just what they think.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:32 AM
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20. we're getting tooooo much info too early on...
it's much better when the dirt comes out AFTER they're already the candidate- like here in illinois when 7 of 9's ex-hubby was running for the senate, and the swing-club stuff didn't come out until AFTER the primaries, sending the illinois gop into a frenzy, and bringing alan f-ing keyes :rofl: to the "rescue", and giving us senator Obama...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:36 AM
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21. Yeah...that was sweeeeeeet! There must be more dirt where this came from.
I'm sure the Dems have been investigating all the repuke idiots.

Can you believe the Illinois GOP brought in Alan freakin' Keyes to run against Obama???:rofl::rofl:: Dumbest move EVER!:rofl:

Though my street was lined with Alan Keyes signs at the time.:grr: My village sucks.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:13 PM
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45. "my street was lined with Alan Keyes signs at the time"
DuPage County?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:02 AM
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72. Nope.
Kankakee County. I live in Bourbonnais which is Freeperville. Thanks to having Olivet Nazarene Univerisity here.:( It sucks. I'm surrounded.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:01 PM
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28. "it's much better when the dirt comes out AFTER they're already the candidate"
You mean like it will with Hillary? :shrug:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:38 PM
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41. hopefully that won't be a problem...
because hopefully she won't be the candidate.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:39 PM
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30. Mike Huckabee... The Elmer Gantry Candidate!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:45 PM
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32. How do you know which of his eyes are looking at you? Creepy wall-eyed buck-toothed bastard.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:14 PM
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36. He reminds me of Gomer Pyle.




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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:51 PM
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33. And he claims to be a Christian Minister?
These people are deluded and repulsive.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:55 PM
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34. Are the police the personal taxi service for Republicans?
First Rudy, and now this revelation?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:09 PM
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35. It's the Clenis' fault!
See? It says "Arkansas" and "governor" in the same article. Hence, it must be the fault of the almighty Clenis. :sarcasm:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:21 PM
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37. Well, it certainly is appropriate that he chose to affliliate himself with the G.O.P.
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 04:21 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Gangsters Operating against the Public
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:03 PM
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38. Spend some time in the South.
It is knee deep with ill-tempered religious nuts.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:15 PM
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39. To think, I thought he might be the least damaging GOP candidate
Whoops. Thanks for correcting me. The guy is just as corrupt and psychotic as any in the field.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:22 PM
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40. The shot at the Clinton's is completely unfair
they were moving into the very first house they ever owned after leaving the WH.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:41 PM
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42. K&R
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:12 PM
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43. You don't understand. By Republican standards THAT IS clean.
I'm sure Fred and Mitt look over articles like this, sneer, and go "Shit, is that all he did?"

Well, Mitt probably says, "Gosh" instead of "Shit," but you get my point.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:13 PM
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44. And he still doesn't know what the N.I. E. Report is, much less what it contains.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:16 PM
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46. Huckafuck is Bushler's replacement.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 06:47 AM
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48. kick
:thumbsup: Swamp Rat
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:03 AM
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49. All so very true!
Old news here in Arkansas...I've been wondering when folks would start to pay attention to the Huckster's record. There's loads of crap to dig up.
As far as the freed rapist affair, that's just the tip of the iceberg. He turned loose hundred of criminals from prison, including at least 12 murderers.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:01 AM
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50. Someone's scared
I wonder where these leaks are coming from? Guiliani, Romney?
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:02 AM
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51. It appears Huckabee is a veritable treasure trove of scandal
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 08:02 AM by Azathoth
Can't wait till he gets the GOP nom.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:45 AM
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55. yeah...
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 09:47 AM by marions ghost
bring him ON...some real good dirt in there...juicy stuff the average person can understand.

Huckasuck for R nominee. Let him get the floundering Fundy vote. God forgives corruption and greed.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:03 AM
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52. Let's see him blame Bill Clinton this time around. nt
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:04 AM
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53. They WILL try to still blame the Clintons
That is one reason that I will be less than thrilled if Hillary gets the nom.
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:47 AM
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56. Everyone here in Arkansas already knew this...
he is extremely vindictive and thin skinned. During the last few years he was governor, he refused to notify the Arkansas Times (a local newspaper that often criticized him) when he was holding a press conference, saying that he didn't think the newspaper was "legitimate press", therefore he had no obligation to do so.

He is one scary dude. I think worse than Dubya, if that is possible.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:30 AM
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57. Holy Frak.
A bridal registry after being married for 30 years? Truly tacky.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:32 AM
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58. kick
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:33 AM
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59. Yep, he sounds exactly like a Baptist minister to me
At least he plays the minister role to a T. People who are supporting this guy are suckers to the highest degree.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:18 PM
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63. A man who puts creationism over evolution to explain our existence -
there is something fundamentally wrong with such a person's thinking; scares the crap outta me.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:24 PM
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64. Know what's even MORE frightening? THIS new National Poll!
He's up to SECOND PLACE IN THE POLLS! People actually support him.:scared:

Huckabee Second in National GOP Race

Republican presidential hopeful and former Arkansas Gov., Mike Huckabee, wai...
By ALAN FRAM, AP
2 hours ago

WASHINGTON —

Mike Huckabee has vaulted from nowhere into second place in the Republican presidential race, riding a burst of support from evangelicals, Southerners and conservatives, a nationwide poll showed Friday.

The surge by the former Arkansas governor has come largely at the expense of Fred Thompson, according to the national survey by The Associated Press and Ipsos. Thompson has dropped after failing to galvanize the party's right-wing core as much as some had expected.

Rudy Giuliani remains the front-runner, yet while his support long has been steady it shows signs of fraying. Huckabee's growing strength in the South has come as the former New York mayor's support there has dropped, the poll found.

"Why not me?" Huckabee said in an interview Thursday. "I meet all the criteria. I'm conservative, but I think I appeal to a broader set of voters. And I think that people are also looking for someone with whom they can identify."

The poll showed Giuliani at 26 percent among Republican and GOP-leaning voters, about where he has been since spring. Huckabee has 18 percent, up from 10 percent in an AP-Ipsos survey a month ago and 3 percent in July.<snip>

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/politics/2007/12/07/Presidential.Race.AP.Poll/
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:29 PM
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65. The baby boomers like it when he talks about playing Hendrix in the WH.
He's a slippery one and if people are stupid enough, they'll vote for him. They voted for Bush, what should make us think they'll be smarter this time?
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:52 PM
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67. We should hit on things we know to be wrong, not spread rumors
By spreading rumors, we look desperate to find something... and we aren't desperate.

The computers -- the hard drives were destroyed as required by state law and as completed by a state machine designed specifically for that purpose. It would not have cost so much to just replace the hard drives, but the new governor ordered all new computers.

One of those ethics violations had to do with a hand-sewn blanket given to the governor by a supporter and Arkansas resident. Huckabee and his office took the blanket and registered it, estimating the value to be $50. A reporter for an Arkansas newspaper called the woman who made the blanket and asked her for a cost estimate. She said $200. It was the reporter and/or the newspaper who filed the ethics charges. When it got back to the Governor's office, they phoned the woman to make arrangements to return the blanket. She told them to keep it, that it was probably only worth the $50.

Another of the ethics violations has to do with a $10 ream of copy paper.

There is plenty -- PLENTY -- out there that is factual and detrimental to the candidates on the other side. For us to grasp on to this garbage and preach it as fact makes us look ignorant.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:50 AM
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68. Why are you defending this stupid fuck?
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 12:54 AM by wienerdoggie
edit to add: nobody here is "spreading rumors"--we're educating ourselves with MSM articles and newpaper accounts. Sounds like YOU'RE the one spreading rumors to defend Elmer Gantry-bee.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 09:50 AM
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69. Please
I'm sorry if you want to live in a fantasy world, but rumors are not going to win us the White House or keep us in control of Congress. As I said, there is plenty "real" dirty out there on all the GOP candidates.

1) Average voter hears about these ethical violations
2) Average voter reads/learns more about what really happened
3) Average voter is ticked off that he/she was led astray
4) Average voter hears about smashed hard drives
5) Average voter reads/learns more about Arkansas state law
6) Average Voter is ticked off that he/she was led astray
7) Average voter stops believing any allegations that come out about said candidate because so much has already been lies and exaggeration

We need independents and united Democrats to get what we want. The only purpose this crap serves is to alienate people who might otherwise support the same candidate we do.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:04 AM
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73. You should talk to the people in Arkansas. They call him a crook!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:57 AM
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71. Then would you please post the Arkansas law that mandates the destruction of Governor's hard drives?
I Googled it and couldn't find it. It would also help if you would post the proof that shows he and his wife didn't steal furniture from the Governor's mansion. Also, please post links to refute anything else in the OP.

There's a poster up above who actually LIVES in Arkansas, not Iowa, who posted that people from Arkansas already know all these things about him, but didn't post that none of it is untrue. For someone in Iowa to know so much TRUTH about Huckabee, yet a DUer who actually LIVES THERE, doesn't refute it, is quite interesting.

Please post all your links to the TRUTH. We don't want to spread lies about Huckabee here. I'll check back later. Thanks.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:54 AM
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70. repuke choices going from bad to worse---Ghouliani is going down in flames on MTP this am, too
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:13 AM
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74. A Vicious, Sadistic Cruelty No One Investigates
There is some really brutal and sadistic violence and cruelty among the male members of this "traditional" family, and it is not being investigated by the corporate media--I'm so surprised! There is the recent, chillingly underreported story that Huckabee as Governor, DEMANDED the EARLY release of a violent rapist, who then went on to rape and murder another woman. The only thing I have heard is a sickening interview with Huckabee and Wolf Blitzer on CNN, where Huckabee is mopping up the damage to the campaign, with no direct or tough questions of any kind. The pseudo-"liberal" Keith Olbermann has not even bothered to refer to this incident at all, being merely about women.

If you go to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Huckabee+son+torture+dog+DU&btnG=Google+Search you will finds reports of a horrific, extremely violent, prolonged, sustained torture-to-death of a dog by the son of the "gentle teacher" Huckabee, including a thread that was on DU, called "David Huckabee hung a dog, slit its throat and stoned it to death." It is really horrible--there is a learned, "acceptable family background" to all this, and the measures the older Huckabee went to to make the charges go away--rather than being mortified and seeking psychological and abuser/anger-management help!
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