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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:47 PM
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Anonymous at TPM again
Anonymous wrote on December 12, 2007 6:16 PM:
The key is also to ask, "Which US contractors working for DoJ, CIA, NSA, DoD, or any other US government contractor/agency did the translation and transcription services of these audio tapes?"

One firm which provide transcription services for DoJ in the Small Business area is Abraxas of McClean, VA; Abraxas also works with CIA to provide CIA agents with cover stories when they are stationed overseas.

- Which audio tapes did Abraxas or other contractors review during these transcription contracts?

- Where are copies of these audio tapes Abraxas or others had access to perform their translation/transcription duties under these Small Business contracts for the US government?

- Where are the copies of the transcripts (the paper copies); who in Congress-GOP-WH-DoJ-OVP-DoD-CIA-NSA was provided copies of these transcripts which Abraxas or others created?

- FISA violation connection: How was the information gleaned from the FISA-violations used to organize the infromation used to abuse POWs?

- How was the information glaned through rendition/abuse/FISA violations used by US government contractors to create media messages to induce the public to support illegal warfare, prisoner abuse, or other illegal activity, to include inaction in re these alleged crimes?

- Was it the intent of the President, Congerss, and Supreme Court to pretend the illegal renditions were a "state secret" to avoid a war crimes trial of US government offiicals; if so, why did Congcress include in the MCA language permitting US governmenet funds to be used to defend US government personnel/agents before international bodies in re war crimes?

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:04 AM
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1. We know exactly who this poster is. It is a DUer. Anyone can be an Anon on TPM
by not filling in the name line.

"Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1692772
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:27 AM
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2. Hmmm.... thanks for the warning;)
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 12:28 AM by autorank
The last time he was there, I found a reference he was making to a nefarious organization. I gooled it and found out it was a fairly mundane law enforcement program having not one thing to do with national security and the topic being discussed, not one. So I posted the question to him and got no reply. Then anonymous posted again on another thread a few days later. The writing was in an entirely different style, not the same person. If it was the same person, I'd say that there was a deliberate attempt, for whatever reason, to radically switch styles.

This whole thing is either a hoax or a distraction.

The utility and precision of this character gives Nostradamus a good name.

It's likely more of the same nonsense.

Somebody should just tell the poster to stop jerking us around. But it's barely worth the time.

Thanks for the heads up.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:50 AM
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3. Whatever the lack of credentials of "Anonymous" . . . these are interesting questions ---
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 12:53 AM by defendandprotect
Whether we can credit the public's callous attitude toward torture to MSM campaigns or to personal stupidity, I'm not sure --- I think stupidity is high up there!

However, for some reason --- and when you begin to think as they do there are lots of them! ---
they must have filmed EVERY torture ---

First, of all -- you want your $$ worth --- right?

Second, you have to be sure they did what you told them to do =!!

Third, both the interregators and those who inspect these tapes would want a record of every groan
and every possible utterance so that they could make the techniques as productive as possible ---
and to be sure that they didn't miss a syllable of what the pain was causing the victim to say.

Fourth, torture is about intimidation and how intimidated do we all feel when we hear about this?
How about the boxes that they were transported in?
20" by 20" . . .

These people were obviously deprived of every human dignity and freedom --
probably even to think! They were enslaved and in the hands of maniacs who may do anything!
ANYTHING to them!!!

So you don't know if it's going to be a 5 min intimidation in a box or if you're going to die in it!!
They were transported for 17 hours in one case.

Not only is this physical torture this is psychological torture ---
We SAW this with the young man they arrested early on --- an American whose name I can't recall
right now ---

They strapped him naked to what looked like a stretcher --- with duct tape!!!
He looked more or less crucified. Can you look at something like that and truly believe
that these are people protecting us from anything?

These are simply insane people, doing insane things --- !!!


I wouldn't get TOO serious about anonymous either way ---

Read what he is saying --- in this case the questions are thoughtful ---
and you never know . . .




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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:03 AM
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4. you're talking about the kid from Marin County
What is his name? Where is he?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:59 AM
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6. John Walker Lindh.
20 years in the hole.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:46 AM
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9. Just a foolish kid, caught in a trap -- and used to make us all FEARFUL ---
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 11:47 AM by defendandprotect
the weakness of this poor child/man was obvious ---

THIS was the enemy --- ????

Laughable ---

but the sick people we are dealing with will use anything they can.


Thank you "grasswire" for the name ---

JOHN WALKER LINDH


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:48 AM
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5. I am brain dead. What is TPM? Thanks.eom
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dog_lovin_dem Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:04 AM
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7. talkingpointsmemo.com eom.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:06 AM
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8. thanks. acronym got me. nt
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