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MarkInLA Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:36 PM
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Deal could mean another $70,000,000,000 for war
Source: CNN

Democratic lawmakers and staffers privately say they're closing in on a broad budget deal that would give President Bush as much as $70 billion in new war funding. The arrangement would lack a Democratic provision for most U.S. troops to leave Iraq by December 2008.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/12/bush.war.funding/index.html
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:39 PM
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1. closing in on betraying America once again....
Pigs.
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:41 PM
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21. Democratic lawmakers
Democratic pushovers is more like it
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:39 PM
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2. Aw hell it's only money...
I'm sure the American Tax Payer doesn't mind a few more bucks for this war, we have nothing else to spend the money on anyway!

:sarcasm:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:41 PM
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3. Now, imagine THESE headlines:
Deal could mean another $70,000,000,000 for national health care
Deal could mean another $70,000,000,000 for K-12 schools
Deal could mean another $70,000,000,000 for elective four-year adult education
Deal could mean another $70,000,000,000 for alternative energy

Where are our priorities?

WAR!

:grr:
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:44 PM
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5. God that it such a good way to clarify things.
How absolutely disgusting this is.
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:57 PM
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7. I totally agree!
Let's take care of America first!
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:18 PM
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11. They are the headlines that *should* be printed.
Wish I could recommend your reply.
:toast:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:56 AM
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29. Aw, c'mon. Where's the profits in that stuff?
:grr:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:44 PM
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31. I like your headlines better, our priorities are not lost, but out governments obviously is.
We need to stop it all, its our money after all, we should get some say in how it is spent.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:43 PM
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4. how will the enablers of Democratic cowardice spin this?
n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:59 PM
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8. That's too much money to keep naievely calling it cowardice.
At this point it means Pelosi and Reid are criminals too. They know what they are doing, they don't want to stop it.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:13 PM
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10. Cowards who send our youth off to die for Gangster Cheney
And his Billions in the pockets of the corrupt corporations
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:28 PM
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13. they *all* need to go, really... the whole festering,squalid lot of them...
n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:38 AM
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26. Hmmm... where's my can of raid - D.C. is over-run by cockroaches! AAARRRGH!!!
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:56 PM
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6. but no money for our own country...
Bush keeps the veto pen going for any domestic issues... yet we can find the money for war.

I hate the Republican's and I'm definately getting disenfranchised with my own party. I wish they wouldn't give in so easily.


Dap
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:00 PM
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9. What About.....
bridges that are collapsing...all the homeless....those without any healthcare....schools....social security...the enviroment...medical research....the hungry...food banks and on and on but we keep forgetting those issues are only trivial when compared to an endless war.:mad:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:23 PM
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12. And no doubt the little Spoiled Child will piss all the money away in a few months
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 08:24 PM by bluestateguy
and then come galloping back to Congress kicking and screaming for more money this summer:

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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:31 PM
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14. sickening
if ever there was a good time to make a stand on this war this is it. whats bush gonna do? have a tantrum? he's vetoing children's health care fer cryin' out loud! and been just exposed as a lying liar. and the 'cia spying tapes' scandal is just now growing legs.

so WHY in the name of Miffy are the democrats making ANY SORT of deal with him?
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:48 PM
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16. Make a stand???
Have you been watching the trend of Democratic response lately? They really aren't challenging it meaningfully anymore. By September next year, it will be accepted as a victory, or as something not worth fighting. Too many of them have inexplicable votes to explain, and the consistent anti-war members are being marginalized. The press will portray Obama as a one-issue fringer.

Sad...
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MarkInLA Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:47 PM
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15. making it worse
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 08:51 PM by MarkInLA
"What is for sure is he will not get all $200 billion," said one senior Democratic lawmaker. "Whatever number it is, it is much less than what the president asked for. For the first time in this war, he has received less than his request."

My first thought was, "It's sick that this is considered progress". But then adding insult to injury, this:

But senior administration officials privately say they expect to be able to get at least of the rest of the president's $200 billion request passed through Congress next year.

"They have not been able to change the president's policy," one senior official said flatly, expressing confidence the White House will continue to get more war funds as violence decreases in Iraq.


After the 2004 election, I became sincerely disillusioned with the political process, and I'm sorry to say that that hasn't changed.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:05 PM
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17. Pentagon Says 200,000 Workers Could Receive Pink Slips for Christmas...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3091046&mesg_id=3091046

gues they won't have layoffs if $70 billion is going tobe spread around to the nations defense workers
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:28 PM
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18. THIS IS TOO DISGUSTING TO EVEN COMMENT ON
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:47 PM
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19. A mere $233.33 for every citizen in the US. A small price to pay for cannon fodder.
Couldn't we just pay the roughly $3000 each to the Iraqi citizens and allow them to pool this money to reconstruct the nation and provide jobs therein? Ah, too simple. Actually keeping people busy running their own economies and cities and rebuilding the damage from our liberation. . .

:sarcasm: but barely.


Evidently the perpetual politics with lack of accountability from the press is the cause of the rot in DC. It would be better to draw our representative by lot than what we get in Washington these days. Could they be any worse?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:49 PM
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20. WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS!
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 09:49 PM by Selatius
Imagine you were an arms manufacturer about to receive your cut of the 70 billion. Jackpot! :sarcasm:
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:48 PM
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22. in other news, Democrats declare they're ready to get reamed up the ass again
I'm so FREAKING tired of this spineless party! ARRGGHG!!!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:43 PM
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23. thus, the decadence...
soon comes the tower...

*whistle* "where was that file now... ah, found it! 'how to diversify your portfolio with international funds.' and 'how to go ex-pat.' good!"
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:52 AM
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24. Doing a heckuva job, Harry, Nancy and Steny.
Always willing to please.

Republicans, that is.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:36 AM
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25. "Broad budget deal"? Translation: Spineless D.C. Dems cave in again.
It's not just the Republicans who are the enemy. It's the Dem leadership. No wonder voter confidence in Congress is so low in the polls.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:38 AM
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27. the whole fucking bunch--Rs and Ds alike--
needs to be cleaned out and flushed


there are *maybe* ten keepers in the whole DC vicinity
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:43 AM
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28. Didn't we vote for them so this wouldn't happen?
Guess I might as well have voted for the GOP candidate :sarcasm:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:42 PM
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30. Well, Steny did say they were having trouble "coaxing compromise" out of the GOP. nt

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:52 PM
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32. scratch "could" insert "will". nt
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