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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:57 AM
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“The CIA is enemy territory” Paul Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence
The quote in the title comes from a very informative document that you can read here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=paul_wolfowitz

There is a good reason why Paul Wolfowitz has no use for the CIA or the US Intelligence Community. It has to do with the word they share in common. Intelligence , as in something that is gathered from a study of the facts. Something that has some basis in reality. Facts just get in the way of people like Wolfowitz, who make up their minds what they want to do, and then make up excuses why they have to do it.

The document above is a handy resource with links to many sources about things said and done by and about Paul Wolfowitz. I decided to put on my hip boots and wade into Wolfowitz’s career in political propaganda, because something about the recent Iran NIE bashing maneuver coordinated by the New York Times and Washington Post reminds me of the run up to the war with Iraq.


Even before 9/11, Wolfowitz is ready to invade Iraq. While Tenet and others worry about Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, Wolfowitz wants to get on with the Project for the New American Century ---you know, liberating oil that was under the control of brown people. When the CIA and FBI fails to get on board his theories that Saddam blew up the WTC in 1993 "he said something derisive about how I shouldn’t believe the CIA and FBI, that they’ve been wrong."

After 9/11, Dept. Defense Sect. Wolfowitz is commissioned by Rumfeld to set up the Counter Terrorism Evaluation Group, which picks and chooses which intelligence it likes.

Critics claim that its members manipulate and distort intelligence, “cherry-picking” bits of information that support their preconceived conclusions. “There is a complete breakdown in the relationship between the Defense Department and the intelligence community, to include its own Defense Intelligence Agency,” a defense official will tell the New York Times. “Wolfowitz and company disbelieve any analysis that doesn’t support their own preconceived conclusions. The CIA is enemy territory, as far are they’re concerned.”


This group leaked material from the US intelligence community, a pattern which will become familiar.

According to unnamed Pentagon and US intelligence officials, the group is also accused of providing sensitive CIA and Pentagon intercepts to the US-funded Iraqi National Congress, which then pass them on to the government of Iran.


In 2002, after the CIA launches a covert attack in Yemen, Wolfowitz blows the cover of the operation on national television, jeopardizing the agencies ability to conduct similar operations in the future.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz confirms that the assassination of Qaed Senyan al-Harethi in Yemen two days earlier… was done with a US Predator drone that struck the truck carrying al-Harethi and five others. Initial reported suggested that the truck was destroyed by a car bomb, but this cover story is blown when Wolfowitz brags about the success of the operation on CNN, revealing US involvement. Newsweek reports that “The CIA, which ran the operation, was furious with the Defense Department for blowing its cover story.” US procedures required that the Yemeni government had to give approval of the strike in advance, and the revelation of such approval is highly embarrassing to the Yemeni government…. The CIA view is, you dumb bastards, this means no other country will cooperate with us!”


The next big leak, will be Scooter Libby, Karl Rove and Richard Armitage’s outing of CIA operative Valeria Plame, six months later, in retaliation for her husband, Joe Wilson’s op-ed piece in the New York Times debunking claims that Iraq tried to purchase uranium. No evidence that Wolfowitz was involved, but Dick Cheney sure seems to have been.

The pattern here is clear. The NeoCons could care less about the operations of the US intelligence community. They want the CIA and its partners to produce the evidence which they need to support the operations which they plan to launch. Leaks of classified intelligence information can and will be made whenever Wolfowitz or the administration feels like it---and there is nothing the US intelligence community can do about it.

During 2002, Wolfowitz grows increasingly angry at the CIA and other intelligence agencies, as they fail (or refuse) to produce the evidence he wants to back up the claims he is making to the press that an Iraqi diplomat met a 9/11 hijacker in the Czech Republic.

September 23, 2002: Newsweek reports that the CIA is resisting Pentagon demands to obtain pictures of the alleged meeting from Iraqi exiles. One official says, “We do not shy away from evidence. But we also don’t make it up.”’



Wolfowitz is also reported to have become enraged when the CIA failed to find any useful material when he told them to dig up dirt that would discredit Han Blix, chairman of the UN Weapons Inspection Team. By 2003, as US intelligence is failing to provide the story that he wants to hear, Wolfowitz and his NeoCon buddies, begin turning directly to Israeli intelligence.

After several CIA reports downplay intelligence provided to Washington by Israeli intelligence officials, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and other neoconservatives working in the Pentagon begin meeting personally with Israeli officials to hear their intelligence. The CIA’s reports had found that conclusions made by Israeli intelligence were often skewed by its biases against the Arab world.


Note that the US intelligence community was correct when it said that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, that an invasion of Iraq could lead to a prolonged conflict and a civil war and the several hundred thousand US troops could be involved. (If you add up the private contractors, there are several hundred thousand over there now.). In contrast, Wolfowitz toured the TV talk shows, declaring that we would be in and out, the war would pay for itself with Iraqi oil, there would be no ethnic violence and the Iraqis would greet us as liberators.

Paul Wolfowitz believes himself to be a genius. In fact, he is a Goebbels style propaganda master.

Paul Wolfowitz is back at the White House, perhaps because time is running out on their plans to force the US into another war for oil, this time in Iran.

Signs that Wolfowitz is working behind the scenes will include efforts to undermine the ability of the US Intelligence Community to gather factual information about Iran and present it to the public. Intimations that Israel's intelligence agency is better than that of the US and accusations that US intelligence agencies are too political are also part of the Wolfowitz package. Most of all, since he is attempting to discredit the validity of their intelligence, he will attempt to cast them as liars and cheats. It is likely that the CIA decided to reveal its "Family Jewels" last summer in order to prevent the White House from holding the document over its head as blackmail to keep it from releasing the Iran NIE. Since “the CIA is enemy territory”, no tactics will be too extreme.

Consider the possibility that the more you distrust the CIA, the better job Paul Wolfowitz and his NeoCon partners are doing.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:02 AM
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1. KNR!!!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:06 AM
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2. It's amazing how
I used to find the CIA to be the most conservative part of the government. I mean, they were the Feds! The guys you hoped never came for you in the middle of the night. The Neo-Cons make the CIA look like liberals. When you are so bad you think the CIA is out to get you.... :scared:
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:08 AM
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3. K & R n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:27 AM
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4. The Neoconservatives: more batshit crazy than the CIA.
How scary is that?

The Neocons have been trying to dismantle the Pentagon and the CIA since Bush got into office. That's the scariest part: you mean that the CIA who ordered and aided the Allende Coup resulting in a fascist dictatorship and tens of thousands of citizens held in football fields and murdered--you mean they're not EVIL ENOUGH for the neocon cabal.

That's what keeps me up at night.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:25 AM
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11. Who would you rather date, Wolfowitz who doesn't mind bombing
innocent people or J. Coffer Black, who organized and ran the rendition program?

It's like watching two serial killers playing poker. No, it IS watching two serial killers playing poker.

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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:38 AM
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5. Barbarians at the Gates
Vis-a-vis the comment that the CIA was "the most conservative part of the government," I think this piece highlights not how "conservative" the CIA was/is, but how "Establishment" the CIA is. The core neocon reality is anti-Establishment -- i.e., 'let's throw out those Yalie bastards who have been snickering at us behind their silk ties and Brooks Brothers suits all these decades.'

How ironic the very Established intelligence community has rebelled against these Yahoo neocons, who seem to think their sheer belief in their conclusions is their armor.

Nobody can con him/herself like an intellectual. Example: Just think what Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz say/think to themselves while they're shaving in the morning . . . .
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:23 AM
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6. Makes one wonder how the neocons brains are wired
Not being of the same mind-set, it's difficult for me to try and understand how they think anything they do is on the correct path for the good of the nation.

Kristol, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Fox Noise, et al, we call them and their ilk "batshit crazy", which they clearly are, but one would think that this yellow belly draft-dodging coward crowd would be the quiet, lurk in the shadows type. Not this in-your-face "I'm a Super Patriot" type of dipstick.

These clowns clearly have a mental health issue going on that needs to be nipped in the DNA.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:46 AM
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7. Maybe the CIA should take care of those that are trying to
discredit The Company. Tenet betrayed the CIA when he allowed the NeoCons to subvert the Intell that the
CIA had at hand. Many CIA personnel have quit in the past six years because they felt that their jobs were no longer viable. The CIA is supposed to be gathering Intell and carrying out Ops that are "good" for America, not merely the Busholini Regime & their Multi-corps backers. The CIA has been screwed with. It is time that they take back their credibility & deal with those that are trying to turn them into sycophants of the Neo-Fascists.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:08 AM
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8. For neocons, America is enemy territory,
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:20 AM
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10. That's why they are trying to destroy the US
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 08:22 AM by formercia
The whole concept of a true democracy and rule by the people is as alien to them as Stalin's version of Marxism. Actually, they have more in common with Stalin than they do with Thomas Jefferson.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:32 PM
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19. So true!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:34 PM
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22. Hardly surprising, considering most of them are former commies
They've simply swapped left-wing authoritarianism for right-wing authoritarianism.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:20 AM
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9. “We do not shy away from evidence. But we also don’t make it up.”’
This is pretty funny coming from the CIA. While it is true that they are in an information war with the Junta, they are every bit as dirty. Neither side in this struggle deserve any trust whatsoever.

Remember that the Junta uses the government to enrich itself. Well, CIA has always done that, too, with the latest incarnation being security contracts to boy scouts like BLACKWATER et al, where an unsurprising number of them go after they leave the agency.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:57 AM
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15. Talk about holding your nose to pick the lesser of two evils!
This is disgusting to watch it unfold, clash of the vilest titans on earth, as if any of them give a fig about any of us!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:02 AM
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12. Oh please, let this continue to be his theme.
They can bring this neocon conspiracy down by properly leaking information that contradicts the lies.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:50 AM
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13. Isn't Wolfie the one who got kicked out of the WTO for
paying his mistress with WTO money
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:44 AM
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14. Wolfowitz is one of the creepiest humans I've ever seen.
Yes, "... Wolfowitz believes himself to be a genius."

I'm not going to deny him that, McCamy Taylor, but it's an ugly, ugly, kind of genius.

:scared:



Humorous interlude: The DU spell check suggest "Halfwits" for "Wolfowitz." It would be nice if that were true, and it may have been true at one time, but something very dark and calculating filled the empty half a long time ago.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:57 AM
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16. Do not confuse Intelligence and Operations. And do not believe the propaganda
that may now start to give the impression that the NeoCons are not solidly behind and fully engaged in the Operations end of CIA, etc.

Check out Wolfowitz vis-a-vis this Op:
TERRORISM as a Tool of the State = Operation Condor: Clandestine Inter-American System.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2460822

And tune in the revelations coming from South America as prosecution for TORTURE, kidnappings, and murders go forward:

George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2459135

The players are circling the wagons and a major propaganda effort is underway.
There are lots of reasons (those guilty) to sell torture as "good" just now!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:40 PM
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20. I heard a report just this morning about CIA creating Detachment 88
in Indonesia which is using terror against Indonesians -- disappearing them, torturing, the whole disgusting familiar panoply. In exchange, Indonesia is allowing us to spy via cell phones on calls and text messages. Oh, and we're funding Detachment 88, too.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:05 PM
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17. I consider that both the fox & the wolf are in the henhouse...
they've already slaughtered and eaten all the chickens, now they are dismantling the coop, one board at a time.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:12 PM
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18. Check out "Legacy of Ashes: a history of the CIA" it came out this year
based upon docs released by the FOIA and scooped up before they were reclassified by the author: Weiner.

The CIA is now a mere shadow if that of what it once was.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:47 PM
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21. Crime of the Century
Paul Wolfowitz is a major figure complicit in the war crime that is the centerpiece of the Bush presidency -- the invasion & occupation of Iraq.

The cost in terms of human lives, taxpayer dollars, our national reputation, future threats being generated, and damage to our Constitutional system of government, are beyond quantifying. So much damage has been done that will be so difficult to repair.

When the CIA is not warmonger enough for this neocon junta in the White House and Pentagon, it is a measure of just how far off the deep end Cheney/Bush et al, are.

In the struggle between this administration and the CIA, if the CIA chalks up a few minor victories like the recent release of the Iran-nuke NIE, our Central Intelligence Agency is still damaged by 6+ years of defections and politicization.

It's not enough that Cheney/Bush leave office. Their crimes must be exposed and justice must be administered.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:11 PM
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23. While it is true that the Agency has not exactly a sterling past
In this case we had a politically motivated DCI (Tenet) cooking raw intel
from the field along with Cheney, who was making unprecedented visits to
Langley during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. The Agency produced raw
intel for evaluation, and when the results were not to Cheney's liking, he
just said change them. To career operatives, this is no less shocking than
someone coming in to the publisher of a math textbook ordering them to print
math textbooks that say that 2+2=5.

Wolfowitz and Cheney have more blood on their hands than the most ambitious of vampires.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:53 PM
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24. I can't begin to express my anger at using Israeli intelligence in place of our own.
It proves all my accusations about having the political war agenda operatives in Israel running our country by permission of a few. It really disgusts me and means dire consequences for many innocent people. He and they proved that they are not neutral. In no way.

The image of George walking with the Saudi King on one side of him holding hands and Ohlmert on the other side holding hands - is a made up one in my head and stands for everything incomprehensible, phoney, hypocritical, and disastrous for innocent people.

We are friends with the King of Jordan and then we learn they house a torture prison? Egypt also.

And yet the Moslems of those countries continue on their own path.

No one is looking to the future. Inncoents will die and be tortured in revenge unless some peace seeking leaders are allowed to help demanding citizens of this earth.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:03 PM
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25. Wolfowitz is one guy the CIA could torture and obtain useful information about spies.
:evilgrin: :patriot: :hide: :grr: :scared: :spray: :banghead: :hide: :patriot: :yoiks:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:10 PM
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26. This info is precisely why I question ALL leaks. The neocons ARE LEAKY, big time.
They've planted false crap all over the damn place, leaked exTREMEly selected material and, well,...basically engaged in full-blown FALSE propaganda at every opportunity.

I still ask: "WHO leaked the erasure of the CIA 'torture' tapes and WHY WHY WHY?" These deceptive f*cks are certainly capable of leaking this info for a duo-purpose: point to the CIA and CYA their own arses.

I am just sick of the FACT that ANY ONE, especially in a government position, is ALLOWED to secret away their activities.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:16 PM
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27. I'd Be Verrrry Careful, Mr. Wolfowitz
Because we, the public already know about you.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:24 PM
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28. anything that fucks with the neocons agenda is the enemy
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