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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:39 PM
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House Dems "express public frustration with Reid and Senate Dems for not putting up a fight."
WP, page one: Democrats Blaming Each Other For Failures
By Jonathan Weisman and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, December 13, 2007; Page A01

When Democrats took control of Congress in January, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) pledged to jointly push an ambitious agenda to counter 12 years of Republican control. Now, as Congress struggles to adjourn for Christmas, relations between House Democrats and their colleagues in the Senate have devolved into finger-pointing. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) accuses Senate Democratic leaders of developing "Stockholm syndrome," showing sympathy to their Republican captors by caving in on legislation to provide middle-class tax cuts paid for with tax increases on the super-rich, tying war funding to troop withdrawal timelines, and mandating renewable energy quotas. If Republicans want to filibuster a bill, Rangel said, Reid should keep the bill on the Senate floor and force the Republicans to talk it to death. Reid, in turn, has taken to the Senate floor to criticize what he called the speaker's "iron hand" style of governance.

Democrats in each chamber are now blaming their colleagues in the other for the mess in which they find themselves. The predicament caused the majority party yesterday to surrender to President Bush on domestic spending levels, drop a cherished renewable-energy mandate and move toward leaving a raft of high-profile legislation, from addressing the mortgage crisis to providing middle-class tax relief, undone or incomplete.

"If there's going to be a filibuster, let's hear the damn filibuster," Rangel fumed. "Let's fight this damned thing out."

In the past few weeks, the House has thrown wave after wave of legislation at the Senate -- on energy, Iraq war policy, the housing and mortgage crisis, and middle-income tax cuts offset largely by tax increases on the wealthy. Most of it has died quietly, a predetermined fate that both sides could foresee before the first vote was cast. Yet they went ahead anyway. Just last night, the House, for a second time, passed legislation to stave off the growth of the alternative minimum tax, to be paid for by a measure to stop hedge fund managers from deferring compensation in offshore tax havens. Like the previous House version, it has virtually no chance of passing in the Senate.

Officially, House Democrats blame Senate Republicans, who have used parliamentary tactics to block even uncontroversial measures. But they are increasingly expressing public frustration with Reid and Senate Democrats for not putting up a better fight. House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) called it a "hold and fold" strategy: Senate Republicans put a "hold" on Democratic bills, and Senate Democratic leaders promptly fold their tents. Asked about his decision on government funding, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey (D-Wis.) groused to the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call: "I'll tell you how soon I will make a decision when I know how soon the Senate sells us out." Senate Democrats have fired back, accusing Pelosi and her liberal allies of sending over legislation that they know cannot pass in the Senate, and of making demands that will not gain any GOP votes. Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) noted that, this summer, Reid employed just the kind of theatrics Rangel and other House Democrats are demanding, holding the Senate open all night, pulling out cots and forcing a dusk-till-dawn debate on an Iraq war withdrawal measure before a vote on war funding. Democrats gained not a single vote after the all-night antics.

"I understand the frustration; we're frustrated, too," Bayh said. "But holding a bunch of Kabuki theater doesn't get anything done."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2007/12/12/ST2007121202865.html
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:41 PM
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1. Fucking Evan Bayh--maybe he should start voting like a FUCKING DEMOCRAT
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 02:41 PM by wienerdoggie
every once in a while, and then he can talk about Kabuki theater. What a turncaot asshole.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:45 PM
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3. bayh is useless
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:43 PM
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2. then let's be radical
let's take it to two nights.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:45 PM
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4. 1 night filibuster ooh... scary
come on those bastards will break eventually... keep the senate in session for days until they can't make it for the vote. Ram the legislation through...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:49 PM
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5. Having a Democratic majority is getting more and more deserving of a ...*shrug*.
Politics as usual.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:55 PM
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6. pot calling kettle black.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:57 PM
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7. just one one-nighter here and there doesn't cut it
Our Dems need to get Repubs on the record as being the obstructionists that they are, or else they go down as do-nothing, feeble, and cowards, to boot. I think those who are politically savvy in this country do understand what's going on, but for most, they only hear what's reported in the corporate media, i.e. Democrats "backed down", "caved", "gave in". Doesn't make one want to run out and vote, does it?

Instead of the narrative being Democrats caved on this, Democrats gave in on that, etc., it should be Republicans blocked this, Republicans threatened to veto that. Put them on the fucking record - give our candidates something to point to in 2008 for chrissakes instead of this sad, spineless, listless thank-you-sir-may-I-have-another performance they're putting in. Can't they see this?
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Chrisy5558 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:20 PM
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8. We need to have a fair meda
Part of the problem is that we have a media that doesn't all tell the truth. I work nights and listen to talk radio at night. I have two choices Clearchannel that is very much far right and paints Democrats as devils with horns on their heads. Than the Independent station is far right on their talk shows too.

I would love to have at least one show on the talk radio that I could listen to at night that told the way things really were and not this slanted brainwashing of the far right.

When you have people who only get one side of the story they after awhile start to believe the lies.

We need to take back the press and have a truly free press where all sides are represented on the airways. We need a fairness doctrine to be passed so that the Clearchannels of the world will be forced to have our message on the air as well.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:24 PM
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12. I agree, Chrisy -- the importance of the media can't be overestimated. Welcome to DU!!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:21 PM
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9. The senate was always intended to be a check on the people's power. (nt)
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:58 PM
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10. Ka-Fucking-buki theater? The entire Congress is a joke.
I think they need to be at the point of coming to blows sometimes. There is good damn reason. Block this, block my ass. Criminals are in the White House while idiots are in the House of Congress. :dem:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:17 PM
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11. WA Post is fanning the flame with a lot of hot air lately. Desperation reeks.
The propaganda mill reeks of desperation every time a new scandal emerges.

This is all very transparent.

If anything, the Dem problem is oversight overload, and that task just gets ever so much more burdensome daily now!
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