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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:17 PM
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BREAKING-Bill Shaheen stepped down as co-chair of Hillary's campaign.
Just heard on CNN.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:18 PM
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1. tell-tale sign of a campaign in trouble.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:20 PM
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3. I wonder if it was Bill Clinton who made him do it...
since word is he was going to step in and handle the campaign.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:19 PM
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2. Uh-oh. Trouble in Inevitability World. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:21 PM
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5. Yup. Last-minute clean-up attempt.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:24 PM
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9. And if it hadn't happened, you'd say.....
Let me guess: nothing nice.

It's not the Clinton campaign I feel the reek of desperation from.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:26 PM
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12. You're right about what I would say, but
I don't think there's ANY desperation from Obama's campaign. I don't like Hillary's campaign's tactics. Period.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:21 PM
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4. Good.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:23 PM
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6. Who, what and why
I'm so far removed from stuff right now. I guess I'll use google.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:24 PM
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10. He put out the word that REPUBS. may smear Obama for his past drug use and possible
drug selling (which had NO basis in fact).
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:27 PM
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13. Thanks
I had heard something about that but didn't know who was involved. I need to get off my disenchanted bandwagon and start paying attention again.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:28 PM
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14. No problem!
What are you disenchanted about?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:23 PM
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7. Clinton Apologizes to Obama For Shaheen's Drug Comment
Clinton Apologizes to Obama For Shaheen's Drug Comment

CONCORD, N.H. -- Despite a face-to-face apology from Sen. Hillary Clinton on an airport tarmac, the Barack Obama campaign today did its best to turn to its advantage remarks by a top Clinton supporter who said yesterday that Sen. Obama's admissions of past drug use would "open the door" to Republican attacks if he is the Democratic nominee.

At a press conference here, Ned Helms, a co-chairman of Obama's New Hampshire campaign, lamented the comments by Clinton state co-chair Billy Shaheen. In an interview yesterday with the Post, Shaheen said he worried that Republicans would have a field day picking apart Obama's past, notably his admissions of cocaine and marijuana use in his late teens. "The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight...and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use," Shaheen said.

The Clinton campaign disassociated itself from the comments last night, saying they were "not authorized or condoned by the campaign in any way." Shaheen, the husband of former governor and 2008 Senate candidate Jeanne Shaheen, said in a statement, "I deeply regret the comments I made today and they were not authorized by the campaign in any way." This morning, Clinton approached Obama on the tarmac of Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington to personally apologize for the remarks. "She made it clear that this kind of negative personal statement has no part in this campaign," said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer.

But Helms told reporters here that the remarks fit a larger pattern of negative attacks and insinuations from the Clinton camp, including an incident last week in which a Clinton volunteer county coordinator in Iowa forwarded an incendiary e-mail falsely asserting that Obama is a Muslim (the Clinton campaign asked the volunteer to step down). With each incident, Helms said, it has became harder to believe that the individuals were acting without any direction from above.

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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/13/clinton_apologizes_to_obama_fo_1.html
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:26 PM
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11. Sorry, posted in wrong spot
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 04:27 PM by qanda
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:24 PM
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8. Bad news for Hillary, good news for democracy
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:54 PM
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26. Why is that?
I'd love for this guy to stay on and keep doing stupid shit.

Fortunately he's not the only jackass on Team Clinton.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:31 PM
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15. The fall guy. Major damage control underway.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:33 PM
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16. AFTER the smear got out. I saw a focus group asked if they thought it was fair game or dirty
tactics and it was unanimous-dirty tactics.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:35 PM
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17. It's a shame he went along with this tactic and had to ruin HIS reputation over it
especially as it will tarnish his wife's future, too.

All for a campaign tactic devised by others.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:48 PM
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19. AND, the end result backfired on Hillary's campaign.
Everyone (that I've seen asked on tv) saw it as dirty tactics.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:36 PM
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18. the top CO-CHAIR. hubby to a governor. Big honcho on all campaign issues.
this is major news.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:49 PM
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20. Not to mention nobody believes he did this without the Clintons' knowledge.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:50 PM
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21. no kidding. Iowa/ New Hampshire
those are the two biggies, like it or not. and to lose the top dog in NH with so little time has to hurt.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:52 PM
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22. I agree...
I bet they think this will put an end to the scandal. But there are still questions about how the Clintons' couldn't have known about this.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:36 PM
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23. Probably necessary, but what he said was not a smear and will likely be validated as prescient.

:shrug:

Republicans will may hay from his admission of drug use -- some already are.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:05 PM
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24. Really? They want to talk about IranContra cocaine dumped by the tons in black communities
by Poppy bush in the 80s and 90s and their support for that illegal operation and its coverup?

Bring it on.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:36 PM
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25. Really? So Obama will be proven to have been a drug dealer?
Because Shaheen, NOBODY else, raised that "possibility." The Repubs. can't slam Obama for using drugs when he was a teen since Bush was an alcoholic 'til he was FORTY not to mention a cocaine user according to "some."
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:51 PM
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27. I mean prescient about them asking him difficult questions if he is the nominee.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:54 PM
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28. WHAT difficult questions? He put it out there himself years ago. And if any of them
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 07:56 PM by jenmito
bring up things in his past, chances are he'd have MORE than enough true dirt on them to hit them back-and harder. This is just the Clinton camp smearing Obama under the guise of "Repubs. might ask..."
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