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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:10 PM
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Poll question: Vote on the Next DU Aggrieved Group Seminar!
One of the greatest things about DU is that it expands our understanding of each other. Specifically, we learn, each week or so, of some terrible oppression suffered by some sub-group of society that one would, on the surface, expect to be relatively privileged. Between the awful discrimination against Southerners, the despicable Christian bashing, the disrespect suffered by smokers, hunters, meat eaters, yes, and even the sorry torments of social disrepute endured by Boston Red Sox fans, I've learned so much - about them and about myself! I've learned to reflect on my own snap judgments, and the way society at large shapes my responses to individuals in these groups, the way I have tended to overgeneralize, or stereotype. True, most of us were taught in first grade and every 45 second thereafter that stereotyping is bad, yet we continue on with it, and so the lessons must be repeated. DU has taught me that these groups remain at a distinct structural disadvantage, and so I've learned to temper my responses, and reflect before acting or speaking.

The only problem is that I can never predict when the next educational week-long seminar on social oppression will flare up, so I'm left guessing, and probably behaving in unseemly ways toward some group I mistakenly believe to hold a structural social advantage over others. So, I propose that we designate an aggrieved group for the coming week (and, hopefully, every week thereafter), so that our education - heretofore random or linked to the ticking time bomb of oppression - can be systematically engaged. We will all be better people for it.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:23 PM
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1. Other:
Marine Engineers. We were aggrieved last week. I forgot the details, but we were aggrieved and right here on DU!

Approximately 0.003.5 percent of DU Members are Marine Engineers. I think that qualifies us as an oppressed minority.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:26 PM
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2. I am a straight, white, male, christian - I am the oppressor of all I see
We (SWMC group) held a meeting just the other night, and we lit our cigars (made by child laborers in Ecuador) with $100 bills.

As we discussed our agenda we ate veal (we were on our yacht). Our ability to socially network and control all things was brought into question by a SWMC member who had no job and was dirt poor. When we learned of his plight we named him CEO of a new company we planned to start. But then it was revealed to us by another member that he had a bad back and was disabled, which made him no longer a member of the club (once you can fit into any other group you are no longer considered an oppressor, you are now oppressed).

Word got out quickly that if you got tired of feeling guilty about your oppressor status all you had to do was join up with a group that does not get that label (one member became a pagan, another claimed he was left handed). People started leaving in droves and we kept hearing more and more reports on how evil we were (are).

After much thought, I decided to leave as well. I am now poor, so I can bitch about how those who are not are oppressing me and I am victim instead of a perp.

The guilt is gone mostly (except people still look at me and I can't hide that I am a white male), I still get looks of scorn and of fear from others though. I don't go to church, so I can hide my religion.

I still shudder when I fill out job apps and they ask about my race/gender - I feel so...trashy.

I always thought being who I was was based on my actions on earth. I was wrong.

I apologize to all humans for being born this way, all the actions committed by people like me...well I am to blame.

:rofl:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:27 PM
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4. You went last week
No repeats! It would overturn the educational mission!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:03 PM
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7. Say.....
you wouldn't happen to need a Marine Engineer for that yacht would ya?

We are eminently oppressible.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:13 PM
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8. Why yes I do
As soon as I figure out what one does :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:29 PM
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9. They're oppressible. That's good enough for me...
:evilgrin:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:42 PM
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12. You're bad :)
:spank:
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:53 PM
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20. And Union Too...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:27 PM
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3. Snazzy dressers--I can't tell you how Matcom's bigotry towards capri pants
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:27 PM by blondeatlast
has caused untold damage to my psyche.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:28 PM
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5. A heart-rending tale
This "matcom" must be confronted!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:37 PM
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6. People who voted twice for The Worst President Ever™?
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:38 PM
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10. Good-Looking Men
I'll be the one reminding everybody that "This thread is useless without pics!"
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:45 PM
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13. I am so good looking I have sex with myself
Well, I will see if I can find some of my pics for ya (other than my avatar) ;)

:rofl:

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:16 PM
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15. Of you having sex with yourself?
Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen pics of that activity, so um, have at it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:40 PM
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11. Phoenix Suns fans. Don't even get me started... nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:10 PM
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14. I'm all those things!
My ancestors, my people, worked hard for me in banking and munitions for four-hundred-thirty-five years, and you want to tear it all down. Fascist Oppressors! I can't help being born handsome, you filthy bigot!

Leave me alone!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:16 PM
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16. For that fussy Ms. Lilith Velkor:
A photograph Cecil Beaton entitled "Autumn Yachting".

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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:21 PM
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17.  tongue brushers
We who brush our tongues when we brush our teeth are oppressed. No one endorses what we do, or even mentions us! :cry:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:32 PM
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18. I speak for the left handed!
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 07:41 PM by Patsy Stone
Power to the people!

We have suffered for YEARS over the designs engineered for right-handed people. Sure, little boutique shops and cute gadgets have turned up with precious sayings on them which try to make us feel equal, but we are still oppressed!

Please, the next time you see one of us on the street, or on a bank line, don't lower your eyes and walk away. A hug can do wonders to let someone know although they are different, they are still human.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:40 PM
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19. And what of the underhanded?
When you catch me raiding your company's 401K's, and I'm stuck in prison, do I not suffer the loss of decent carry-out Mandarin Chinese?

Do I not thirst for Perrier Jouet?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:53 PM
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21. People with 401Ks
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 07:57 PM by Patsy Stone
don't deserve to live, and certainly don't deserve to post on DU. They are the worst kind of vermin and they deserve what they get.

You're actually a cult hero here, although you have no way of knowing about it, since your incarceration forbids browsing the interwebs.

When you get out, 15-20 years from now, I, for one, will be happy to buy you all the Sizzling Sub-Gum War Bar you can eat.

Stay strong, my brother. A nation of DUers turns its lonely eyes to you -- and away from the spoiled, over-privileged 401K investors.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:03 PM
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22. DU is a beautiful place.
111,603 Jerry Rubins fighting, fighting, fighting...and...fighting. :cry:

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:29 PM
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23. Other: I am a veteran of the Sexual Revolution. I was one of its fiercest warriors,
constantly on the front lines; day in day out, night in night out -- in and out, day after day and night after night. I served with honor and distinction. I gave my all, over and over again, around the world, above and below.

Tirelessly did I harden the resolve of my brother revolutionaries; never did I allow their energy to flag. Always I bade them rise up and go forth once more unto the breach -- bade them stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood. (Shakespeare: Henry V 3.1.38-44)

Memory, all alone in the moonlight
I can dream of the old days
Life was beautiful then
I remember the time I knew what happiness was...

Those were the days, my friend.

What thanks are there now for my selfless service?

sw







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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:59 PM
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24. I knew that.
And I, um...salute...you.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:53 PM
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27. I'm glad we've gotten that straight between us.
You're a real stand up guy, Mr. K.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:04 PM
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29. I try.
It's all God and Viagra anymore.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:31 PM
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32. Poor dear. It's all because muscular, good-looking men like yourself are being oppressed.
I will dedicate myself to your liberation.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:20 AM
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33. Haven't you done enough?
Rest now, reading of your dedicated activism alone has depleted my stores of zinc and iron.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:00 PM
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25. It Is Deplorable the Way Muscular, Good-Looking Men are Used for Cheap Laughs on This Site.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 10:06 PM by Toasterlad
If there are any muscular, good-looking men out there looking for comforting, I will feel your pain. And more. Email me head shots and poses that reveal your good-looking musculature, and I'll make you an appointment.

I'm here to help.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:02 PM
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26. You'll have to address that to some muscular, good looking man
:-)
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:02 PM
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28. People who live in vulgar, ostentatious McMansions.
I was recently compared to the Ku Klux Klan for speaking ill of them here.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:24 AM
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34. We may have a winner for the week long seminar!
The very fact that you would call a beautiful family home a "vulgar, ostentatious McMansion" indicates your complete inability to think the individuality of each and every homeowner - that is, his or her way of being in the world. Tsk tsk.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:42 AM
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38. Well, liberals do want to destroy the family, you know.
Besides, in my liberal elitism I look down on those who do not live in genuine mansions.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:13 PM
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30. Heh heh heh
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 11:16 PM by nam78_two
:spray: :thumbsup:

I voted for snazzy dressers, but I wish I could change my vote to 'Tenured Professors'-I hope to be one in a while and I should have planned for the future :D.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:14 PM
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31. Owners of Five Star Restaurants
our local nightly news just did a piece on the water shortage, with pics of the resevoirs, well the dry banks and puddles of it, and the restrictions that were upcoming. Interspersed in the story was a clip of the owner of a long-standing, popular steak house's owner describing how thay would serve from plasic, recyclable plates, use plastic forks, etc if need be to comply.

gawd, they are going to be deprived...of the china.

dp
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:25 AM
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35. I always knew China was going to be a problem.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:25 AM
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36. In addition to structural disadvantage, they also have to contend
with prejudicial regulation.

A horror.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 AM
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37. I vote to turn our focus to the plight of good looking men.
Each story should include shirtless photos, please.
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