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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:08 PM
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Don't fear the Huckster
He's a terrible and completely beatable candidate. Hell, if he somehow slips by the guardians of the repuke party and gets the nomination, we'll whup him in 40 states. And the following post from Freeperville, which is actually mild in it's overt hostility toward Fuckabee, demonstrates nicely what will happen.

"Huckabee is our Howard Dean. We nominate him, say "hello" to President Obama or the second President Clinton.

I'd rather have my dog in the White House running things than either of those DemonRats.

Huckabee can not and will not win in the general election, so we'd better wise up fast!

Not to mention he's a liberal tax and spender who might be even softer on illegal immigration than W, and he has a psycho son! Nice!"


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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:11 PM
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1. Well if Huckabee is their Howard Dean, who is their John Kerry?
911iani? Mr. Magic Pants? Mr. Trophy Wife? Who?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:13 PM
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2. McCain?
:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:15 PM
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6. I think the point is that freepers hate Huckabee
Hell, they hate him more than Rudy. And they see him as completely unelectable. For once, they're right about something.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:14 PM
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3. The corporates are not allowing Huckabee
Every mention of Huckabee on the news I've seen, mentions the release of the rapist/killer story.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:14 PM
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4. No, Ron Paul is their Howard Dean
great enthusiasm and lots of money on the internet--anti-war. Huckabee is part of their base--and I think he could be nominated. If he wins Iowa and SC (and does well in NH) I think he will be nominated. I also think he could be beaten pretty easily in the general election and hope he is the nominee.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:19 PM
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26. I'm pretty sure that Dean polled in the double digits.
Paul has never cracked 5%.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:14 PM
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5. One of the things you've gotta understand about FReepers
is that they occasionally will round up all the supporters for a particular candidate and ban them.

So don't assume you're seeing the complete spectrum of freak opinion over there. :P
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:17 PM
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8. yeah, that's trure, but the sentiment about the Huckster is
both broad and deep.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:16 PM
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7. I believe he's beatable too
He might appeal to some elements of the right-wing, but he can't possibly appeal to mainstream voters.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:20 PM
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9. Fear? Surely Ye Jest
Watching the Repugnicans is like going to an old county fair and watching a demolition derby. Slowly they're stalling and exploding all over the place. Whichever is left will be leaking oil and have the pick-up of a lawn mower.

I now think the last man standing will be...of all people, McCain. He's the most known and the "safest"...as one by one, each candidate disqualifies themselves with one major segment of the GOOP base or another. On the whole, they all represent what's totally wrong with the country and their corrupt party and by the piece they show the brazen pandering they think will be their meal ticket. It's ripping that party apart and the Huckster's bump is the best indication that the implosion is near.

There's been so much bad blood flung by all the candidates that the supporters of one are loath to form ranks behind another. If anything, many Repugnicans, if they haven't become "independents" (Ron Paul is focusing on them), they're ready to sit home next November rather than vote for a Huckster or Ghouliani or Mittens. McCain is their best last hope as he's the least offensive...and a media darling...but I think he's also un-electable.

Recently a poll was released that showed Democrats were more excited about their candidates and anxious to vote over Repugnicans by nearly 20%!! Put those numbers into close races in '04...even stolen ones...and no wonder the GOOPers want to talk about anything but boooshie.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:24 PM
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10. Murcans vote for personality and "likableness". To hell with the issues. He will suck up the
votes from religious people except Mormons. His "aw shucks" little jokes will please a hell of a lot of grandmas and his "down home" act will appeal to grandpas. I think the guy is going to be tough to beat. Most people in this country are church-goers and he appeals to that group. I don't think however that he will have a passionate energized campaign except for the evangelicals and fundamentalists. That is what we will need to beat him.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:29 PM
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11. If he can't even scrape up any support
among the fundies in freeperville, how is he going to get the excited and passionate support of fundies in the real world? He's surging now because the information about him has yet to catch up with him. It will. And you're right that other factions won't support him. I don't see him getting the nomination.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:35 PM
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13. I guess NH will give us a better indication.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:30 PM
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12. Bush was a terrible and completely beatable candidate...
The guy couldn't think and speak in complete sentences (still can't).

Dismissing Huckabee makes me nervous. Huckabee has an authentic (fake, but real-seeming) charm that Bush never had (still hasn't).

Huckabee is a terrible candidate, but makes me more nervous than Fredrick of Hollywood, who has NOTHING to offer.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:39 PM
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14. I never saw bush as beatable- at all.
bush was backed heavily by the repuke establishment. Huckabee isn't and won't be if he's the nominee- though that's unlikely. There was no where near the kind of dirt on bush that there is on the huckster, and the press didn't focus on the substantial dirt there was. It's completely different.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:43 PM
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16. Why would the puke establishment bail on their nominee?
:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:01 PM
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17. They don't want him.
The corporate faction hates him. They see him as a sure loser. And evidently they believe he carries the religious bit too far.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:02 PM
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18. Yes but if he were the nominee... what...
you think they'd just wash their hands of him?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:04 PM
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20. no, but I think they'd give him less than enthusiastic support.
In any case, I don't think they'll let him get that far. Incredible as it seems, they appear to find him profoundly embarassing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:06 PM
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22. Who isn't embarrassing out of that group?
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 05:07 PM by redqueen
It's like nutball bingo over there.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:11 PM
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23. too true, but I think they see hucky as a cariacature
and it makes them very uneasy. the religious right is something they want to control, not be controlled by.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:12 PM
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24. Seems like that horse already got outta the barn...
a long time ago, even.
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:42 PM
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15. Yes and McCain was coming on strong too
and look what they did to him, if the big mahafy of the republican party don't want him to be the nominee they'll find a way to get rid of him, they always do.

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:04 PM
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19. Huckabee is Katherine Harris on a national level
:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:05 PM
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21. I can definitely see that comparison, though I think he's smarter
and more "likable" than KH.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:15 PM
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25. Bill Clinton can't win he is a womanizing draft dodger
sorry I guess he did win.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:28 PM
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27. no, sorry. there's just no grounds for comparison
hucky's history is rich with corruption, and it's all spilling out. Also, democrats across the spectrum embraced Clinton. That simply won't happen with Huck. He's no Bill Clinton.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:39 PM
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28. Yeah but....
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 05:45 PM by gatorboy
That's because they still think Fred Thompson is gonna win it. :P
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:21 AM
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29. Doesn't anyone here remember Reagan?
He was a guy just like Huckabee, not the media created God you hear about in post-Cold War "mainstream" circles.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:36 AM
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30. no. he wasn't
he was another kind of critter entirely. And the mainstream repukes loved him- not just one faction of the party.
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