The BOriley incident at Obama's event highlights the most troubling aspect of his candidacy

[burythehatchet]

The real possibility that he will not survive until election day. I know its the most heinous event to contemplate, but almost every charismatic Dem leader since the 60's has been targeted.

[maseman]

1. I think candidates are equal targets

Seems like Hillary would be an even bigger target with all the right-wing hate radio people bashing her 365 days per year. Why would Obama be a bigger target?

[LeftyMom]

25. The elephant in the room, of course.

There remains a certain share of this country that is both full of hate for and deeply afraid of powerful black men.

[maseman]

28. I agree.

However I believe the same for a powerful female (Clinton), a powerful Hispanic (Richardson, a powerful Morman (Romney), etc. I could see a nut-job Christian going after Romney in the name of Christ.

Again, I see many as equals for being targets. God let's hope nothing happens to any of them.

[durtee librul]

2. Ok, I missed it

What was the O'rielley moment for Obama?

[burythehatchet]

4. scuffle between Oriley and Obama security

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/05/obama-staffer-says-bill-oreilly-confrontation-got-physical/

[robbedvoter]

34. Didn't Dildo reilly get into a fight in 2004 NH? I read something on a blog

It was a CNN camera on him and someone else we know...

[monktonman]

3. Here we go again....

Ok I guess I'll vote for the white guy who wont get shot.

[burythehatchet]

5. The corn flakes that reside in the craniums of some you posters

are extremely soggy. GO AWAY

[monktonman]

6. IGNORE AWAY

[ruggerson]

7. Didn't two white guys get shot in the sixties?

My memory is a little hazy due to all the barbituates in the intervening years.

[burythehatchet]

10. my point is not abut race as much as it is about charisma, its the most

charismatic leaders that are targeted and Obama is emerging as a very charismatic leader. Race is secondary. JFK, RFK, MLK, Wellstone

[ruggerson]

17. Well

they tried with Reagan and Ford, as well. Ford twice, if I remember correctly.

[treestar]

41. Those really seemed to be real lone nuts

With the Dems, there's always at least somebody talking conspiracy theory.

Interesting, isn't it, how those plane crashes never seem to have repukes in them. Can anyone cite one? I can't think of a single one.

[monktonman]

15. Kinda my point...

There was a post earlier today about how we should pray for
Obama because he's sure to assassinated.

OP....remember a guy named Bill Clinton? he was pretty charismatic himself. Remember?

[City Lights]

8. He showed up at a Clinton event today too.

Got some lady to ask Clinton a question for him. Coward. Couldn't even ask her himself.

[avaistheone1]

35. Clinton has had a couple of whack jobs show up at her campaign offices.

I would certainly count Bill O'Lielly as on of them.

All the candidates need protection, and I assume all of them do until the Secret Service takes over once one of them is names THE Democratic nominee.

[City Lights]

38. Obama and Clinton already have SS protection.

Clinton because she's a former First Lady, and Obama because of an earlier threat.

[KittyWampus]

43. Hillary had a guy take hostages in her freaking campaign office a couple of weeks ago

for crying out loud.

[doc03]

9. Bush has survived for 7 years

and he is the most unpopular pResident in history.

[burythehatchet]

11. He's also being protected by a couple of divisions

[Renew Deal]

16. So we should vote for Edwards because Obama could be targeted?

Your post is crass and short sighted

[monktonman]

18. Thank you. n/t

[Renew Deal]

12. Which American president isn't at risk?

[burythehatchet]

21. None

[rocktivity]

13. WHOSE candidacy--Obama's or O'Reilly's?

rocknation

[madrchsod]

14. i`ve seen obama`s own security guys up front and personal-

you do not fuck with these guys. if it`s the secret service--- he`s lucky they knew who he was!

[alphafemale]

19. So you think your candidate of choice isn't a "charismatic Dem leader?"

:shrug:

I think Edward is pretty charismatic, too.

I like Obama, Edwards and Hillary.

[burythehatchet]

20. Not in the class that Obama seems to be emerging.

[madokie]

22. It worries me too

[burythehatchet]

23. Where I work there;s a lady who is very liberal

and the day after Iowa I was talking to her and she was sad for Obama. I asked her why and she looked at me like I was kidding and said "they'll kill him".

[ngant17]

24. CIA now hiring, one lone nut?

Obama being targeting, well, those were exactly my thoughts earlier today. That there are probably covert gears being put into motion to deal with the possibility of an Obama upset in the American political status quo. There are plenty of white racists and even Christian neo-fascists who would become uncontrollably enraged if and when Obama makes it the top. They would make great patsies for the CIA.

My guess is a convenient plane crash, like what happened recently with John Kennedy, Sen. Paul Wellstone, and others. I would recommend that Obama stay out of private planes and probably avoid unnecessary air travel while campaigning.

If you don't think someone from a mixed race can become a charismatic figure in the USA, you probably have forgotten about a guitarist named James ("Jimi") Marshall Hendrix. I think Obama could become someone of that stature. I never thought he would get where he is already today. He's got my vote for sure.

[burythehatchet]

26. I'd support him happily as well.

But living in Georgia and hearing the shit I hear from wingers down here, its frightening.

[KittyWampus]

45. Wait, I thought Obama was the corporate-GOP-media-NeoCon candidate. Why would they

want him eliminated?

NeoCons and the ones in control of the black op stuff aren't going to take out someone just because of race.

[doc03]

27. All the Presidential candidates are at risk

I saw John Kerry's security first hand in Wheeling WV and in Steubenville OH. I saw agents hanging around town days before his appearance, snipers of roofs, boats on the river and in Steubenville Ohio I saw agents on the hilltop on the other side of the Ohio river a 1/2 mile away. I think a case could be made though that crazy white people assassinate people and I don't remember any black assassins. It is a concern but I wouldn't vote for someone else just because he could get shot.

[Swamp Rat]

29. What happened? Did Bill O'Reilly try to kill Obama???

I guess I am out of the loop today.

[Quantess]

30. That's what I was thinking.

Someone is overreacting.

[Swamp Rat]

31. On the other hand,

I bet deep down inside, Bill O would like to kill that uppity ..... "clean and articulate..." x(

[Berry Cool]

32. There's always been a danger of survival where O'Reilly is concerned.

One never knows when he's going to go off the deep end and wind up dead or institutionalized.

Obama, I'm not so worrried about.

[Fading Captain]

33. No one is threatened by charisma

Obama needs to start talking about real change before he hires more body guards.

If anyone should be worried, it's edwards.

[burythehatchet]

36. you make a good point about Edwards

[KittyWampus]

46. LOL! I knew it was a matter of time someone would say no it's EDWARDS who should be afraid.

How totally predictable.

[killbotfactory]

37. Was Bill gonna kill him with a loofah?

[sniffa]

39. .

[treestar]

40. Any Dem leader should stay off small planes

Edwards is a trial lawyer who took on the corporations - he's the one who should leave the small plane first.

[Blarch]

42. fuck those people.

they certainly won't sway me either way.

fucking racist scum.

[kevinbgoode]

44. Well, excuse me. . .but what qualifies Bill O'Reilly as PRESS?

Frankly, his bullsh*t doesn't rise to the level of deserving any press credentials - his program doesn't engage in "reporting" news, despite his propaganda. What ticks me off the most about this "incident" is the arrogance of O'Reilly in attempting to act as if his "commentary" program deserves complete access to ANYTHING, when in reality his sorry ass should have been shown the door immediately.

[in_cog_ni_to]

47. O'LIELLY also showed up at one of Hillary's town hall meetings yesterday. He was in the back of the

room and had a lady in the audience ask his question about Iraq. O'LIElly is trying to cause problems for all the Dems because they refuse to appear on his shitty show.

As an aside, I was watching The NH Democratic Party 100 Club Dinner on C-SPAN. Bill Richardson gave his speech, people were standing and cheering ....with Obama signs. After Richardson finished his speech the people were up and chanting for Obama to come out. THEN....the MC of the event went to the microphone and said, "For SECURITY PURPOSES we need to have everyone in their seats." Well, THAT went over like a lead balloon and Obama decided to just deal with it, I guess, and went out on the stage. :scared: I am worried sick for that man. You should have seen the Secret Service detail he had that night....they were EVERYWHERE and had him surrounded as he shook hands. It seemed like they must have received MORE THREATS after his Iowa win. The security was unbelievable....more than Clinton's, that's for sure.

[rucky]

48. He's not worried, so don't you be. n/t