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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:41 PM
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Despite what the MSM will say tonight. Edwards cleaned house.
I went from tepid support for Obama to total support for Edwards. I wish him luck, and I hope he's our nominee.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM
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1. YES HE DID!!!!!!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM
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2. MSM will not even mention Edwards
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:43 PM
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5. I agree.
He won't even get a nod from them.

Lessee what George know nothing Steffie will say. he is such a pos.
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:10 AM
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45. Is this DU or the definitive EDWARDS CAMPAIGN SITE?
For those of us who are not overly supportive of Edwards it would be nice to see some balance on the other candidates. WTF
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:19 AM
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47. Amazingly ignorant mini-rant
why? because if there's MORE people who want to talk about a candidate they WILL. Why you would say WTF, because he's touching so many people's hearts is beyond understanding. If you don't like him, fine, but your rant is not understandable. If you like Obama, Richardson, or Clinton, make a post about what they did.

Just don't get pissed off about activism before your eyes bro!

Take care
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:20 AM
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71. DU tends to be a smart group. And, it has singled out the two best candidates

Kucinich & Edwards.

Now, Edwards is the viable one, he is all the buzz.

GO JOHNNY GO!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:51 PM
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119. You nailed it, in brief comments! n/t
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:04 AM
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56. Then start your own fucking post.
:wtf:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:15 AM
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58. Start your own thread and stop raining on everybody else's parade.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:59 AM
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62. Here's how this works
Go to the top of the page, where the little icon says "post".

Click on it.

Then, write something about the candidate that you support to attract support for your candidate.

No, you don't have to pay to do it.

No, you don't have to convince anyone to give you any airtime to do it.

Its the way it works around here.

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:17 AM
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70. YOu might try General Discussion - Politics
They duke it out pretty regularly over there. 'Course a significant amount of certain candidates' supporters are what some would call batshit crazy, but there are threads other than ones about Edwards.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:16 PM
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86. Turn the lights on Instead of cursing the darkness
Feel free to post in support of your candidate.

Who's stopping you?



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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:01 PM
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96. We hear a LOT more about Clinton and Obama on DU because they
are the ones being reported on by the MSM. Edwards, with the stronger AND more progressive message, gets ignored. The MSM has its marching orders from its corporate overlords: SHUT EDWARDS OUT.

I happen to think WE need to make up for it and help get his message out to counter the MSM's abject failure to do what it is legally required to do - provide balanced reporting.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:51 PM
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109. The same way they're trying to shut off DK
Even though Kucinich doesn't have a lot of backing, he represents a large constituency within the Democratic party and beyond. Trouble is, it's not a group that ABC and the rest of the corporatocracy wants to allow a voice. Edwards suffers from the same dynamic. The corporatists want to squelch dissent and ensure that all the Democratic front-runners maintain the status quo.

The MSM will play up to those who play ball. It is up to the citizen media - that's us, baby - to ensure that those without the mainstream megaphone have their say anyway.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:49 PM
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115. You got that right. The MSM completely ignores Kucinich.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM
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3. The man always does! I love that man! nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:43 PM
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4. I hope NH voters were as impressed !
:hi:
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:45 PM
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7. We'll see on Tuesday.
Oh yeah, good ol George is spinning HRC already....won't they EVER get it?

They will STILL be shilling for her when she's been eliminated.
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rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:50 PM
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90. Edwards has this NH voter's support!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:44 PM
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6. Edwards gets IT like no other!!
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 10:48 PM by Double T
Can't wait to vote for Edwards in the primary. Damn HE gave a STRONG show tonight, and it was noticed even by the MSM.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:42 PM
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114. I watched the Dems debate and JE was by far the best of the lot
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:43 PM by EVDebs
IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID was the old mantra that won it for Clinton in '92 but they seem to have forgotten us this time around. Obama's too naive and would be eaten by the wolves, corporate/globalizationist/M-I-complex interests, and the newbies voting for the first time around don't seem to realize this. You don't invite those interests to come and run the table on you, now do you ?

We need a fighter in our corner. If JE gets in we've got a FAMILY of fighters, Elizabeth is the spiritual leader of this !
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:46 PM
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8. It looks like...
... after it airs here on the West Coast, I'll just have to pony up another donation to the Edwards camp ! Puttin' my money where my mouth is kinda feels GOOD !!

Go Johnny Go !! It ain't easy when the Corporate Media is totally against you, but Edwards has the grit to get it done.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:46 PM
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9. ZOINKS!!! Snuffle-uphagus is giving props to Edwards!!!
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:48 PM
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10. Wow. Georgie just said he showed vitality and energy and was clear.
He pointed out how tired everyone seemed tired but Edwards was the exception.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:21 AM
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48. yep
stephanopolous truly surprised me... he gave John the props he totally deserved!
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:50 PM
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11. I thought he did great.
The man does have some passion.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:51 PM
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12. I was getting tepid on Edwards, getting discouraged, I am now ON FIRE... he has just
hit a grand slam on this debate. He owned it and the MSM is agreeing.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:52 PM
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13. the contrast between our candidates and the Repubs is just astounding.
It is just hard to understand how so many prospective voters can not see this.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:52 PM
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14. It truly is. I'd be happy to vote for any of them, really.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:04 PM
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17. I guarantee you I would and will
I liked the way Edwards handles himself, he would be a good President for people like me is all I know and for that I will support him and vote for him
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dsharp88 Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:59 PM
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91. They DO see this: Dems >2:1 over Repubs in IA
If you map out the votes among the entire voting populace in IA, Obama had nearly 25%. Huckabee around 11%.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:30 PM
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111. Nice point, welcome to DU and thanks for that bit of info.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:57 PM
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15. Edwards did well, I agree. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:58 PM
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16. They are not going to ignore him after this. He's officially a story now. He aligned
himself with Obama, he caused HRC to come totally unglued, he dominated the stage, he was passionate and clear. Oh yeah. He's a story now.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:04 PM
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18. I sure liked reading those words of yours there
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 AM
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29. I can't bear to watch the debates
Stronger people than me can bear these dog and pony shows.

But I do miss missing out on the good parts.

How did he make HRC come unglued?
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:54 AM
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31. Hillary did not come unglued
All the Dems did well - John Edwards did REALLY WELL.....

there seem to be some folks here at DU - non Hillary supporters - who want to make an issue out of a particular passionate answer of HRC - the comments have been over the top and SEXIST - she was equally passionate in this particular response as John Edwards was in some of his -

and btw I'm not a Hillary supporter - but the characterization that she came unglued is just plain unfounded.....
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:11 AM
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40. Agreed. The Dems had an excellent showing.
Clinton definately shows she has the energy and has no problem answering questions. I think nothing said can cause Hillary to become 'unglued'. She is tough and very articulate. Not necessarily my pick but I do admire her courage.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:39 PM
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104. Thank you for the time to update me
As A DK supporter, watching an hour of a "debate" and then see him allowed only five and a half minutes of response time has just gotten too painful.

But DK was interviewed by C Span at 10PM CA time and that was great.

(And although no Hill supporter, I too feel she gets beaten up far too often for things that are neutral, or at least would be if she was one of them ther three leggeds.)
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:40 PM
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105. Thanks. Longer response to you is
In my response to lumpy.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:58 AM
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57. Probably thinking of this clip...
which can be viewed at Crooks and Liars

Basically Edwards called Clinton the "Status Quo candidate" and she went off on him.

I wouldn't say she came unglued, but she did lose her cool. I don't know if it helps or hurts her, frankly.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:24 AM
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49. loved those words too!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 04:26 AM by themartyred
John, as many of us thought watching it, hit a home run! He is totally lucid about the problems in this country, gets the Iraq occupation, understands the corporate greed - I really think Hillary was borderline irate there for a sec! She, imo, seemed like she was ready to scream - I LIKE CHANGE TOO!!! Really came unglued oh so slightly, it wasn't a very good response by her, or convincing more than anything I guess. Barack, if he wins, owes so much to John for nailing Clinton for the past 6 weeks better than anyone. I would be happy with any of the top 3 candidates, honestly, but Barack is better than Hillary, and John is just the star player on our team, and I hope others realize it in NH and SC!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:30 AM
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84. Well, I Guess You're Wrong Again... I Haven't Heard Very Much This AM!
It's downright sickening! Right now, Bill Richardson is on with Wolfie! And who seems to have come in LAST in NH??

I know why this is happening, but I THOUGHT Democrats were "supposed" to understand this process, but Edwards is getting IGNORED... and say what you will, he DOES have appeal and THE VERY BEST ideas and message!

Obama IS NOT ready, and Clinton doesn't seem to realize how she alienates others!

Just MHO, and I don't care what others think! You can cuss me, scream at me or call me names... I'm NOT stupid, but I AM offended!!

This is my LAST GE that I will be involved with because I'm just so SICK of how the POWERS THAT BE, try over and over to manipulate the populace! It not only SUCKS, it's frightening!

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:05 PM
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19. I guarantee the only highlight they will show of him...
... will be the lead up to Hillary's rant, and the apology for talking about her jacket. All the other inspiring talk about crushing corporatists, and corruption will take a trip down the memory hole.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:35 AM
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36. There was no rant. There was passion.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:16 AM
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41. I think anyone who seriously watched the debate will NOT forget
Edwards vow to rein in the corporatists and lobbyists.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:05 PM
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20. I love the 'this is personal' angle.
Keep it up John!
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:07 PM
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21. He sure sent it to the jury didn't he
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:07 PM
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22. Amazing and so PRESIDENTIAL.
Go, Johnny, GO!!!
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cosbo Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:14 PM
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23. Edwards ROCKED the house
Hillary was steady

Obama was complacent
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:14 PM
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24. Obama and Clinton both seemed totally worn out.
I'm sure they don't sleep much with their schedules.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:18 AM
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59. I don't know why my guy didn't get more rest.
Too much coffee probably.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:44 AM
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53. succinct and to the point!
I agree. And I loved John saying it was PERSONAL for him how the nation is being raked over the coals by the corporations... that's a wise thing to keep saying if I was him! hope his people noticed people like that!
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be inspired Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:15 PM
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25. Edwards is awesome.
He's such an amazing candidate. Really he is the perfect candidate for the time and the situation that we face. This is not to say that he's perfect, because of course he's not, but I think he's tailor made for taking on the battle that we face right now. I'm totally 100% backing him.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:15 PM
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26. Damn straight he did!
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:23 PM
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27. Totally.
I do not understand why he is not sweeping.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:07 AM
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35. It's because of the media blackout of John Edwards.
Check it out:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/5/12286/27650/142/431084

Couldn't be plainer. The lamestream media is playing kingmaker.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:27 PM
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28. Edwards rose above the politicians on stage tonight and showed himself to be a leader.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 11:27 PM by mnhtnbb
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:44 AM
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30. He will do us proud!
Love JE!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:56 AM
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32. Hell yeah!
:bounce:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:00 AM
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33. I heartily agree with you.
John Edwards kicked ass.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:05 AM
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34. That he did.. my mother's comment was down right funny
he is really good at taking other's time!

She is not a Citizen, so for her this is truly spectator sport
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:46 AM
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37. I agree with George, he seemed energized unlike Obama who seemed tired
Did anyone else think Richardson seemed somewhat pissy?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:02 AM
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38. I think all the Dem candidates proved that any one of them could
clean any of the Rebubs clocks. The Repub debate was a fizzle; I have never seen a sorrier bunch of clueless candidates. Watching the difference between the Dem and Rebubs debates proves that the Dems have a handle on what the voters really want in leadership. Clinton and Edwards were very strong; although Richardson appeared to be tired, he quietly and calmly showed his grasp of the issues. Obama appeared to stutter somewhat and appears to not be a match for those with greater experience. All in all I was encouraged by what we heard tonight.
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adnelson60087 Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:56 AM
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66. Richardson does not get the idea that Primaries
are supposed to be a competition among rivals, not a group HUG.
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:09 AM
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39. His heartfelt *passion* was obvious
That's what distinguishes him most from his opponents...who's giving their heart and soul vs who's just playing the lip-service game.



  Edwards '08 tees!
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:47 PM
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108. John Edwards took on an issue - poverty and the poor - that is
guaranteed to bring out a passionate approach to corporate greed. I am glad he is going to stay in until the convention. I want all of those who support him to have the chance to vote for him. Go, John.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:40 AM
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42. You could have knocked me over with a feather when George complimented him.
George was one of the reporters that contributed to the "Edwards is a phony" narrative when it was being constructed, same as he helped with "Gore is a liar." So you know Edwards had to do good to make that media whore sit up and take notice.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:55 AM
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43. Edwards STOOD OUT - Like a beacon of truth.
And for the record - Dame Hillary COULDN'T ANSWER Gibson's last question where he asked what one thing they'd said thru their campaign that they wished they hadn't. She brushed it aside, as if to say she couldn't recall having made a goof! Shades of GWB when he was asked if he ever made a mistake!!!!
Edwards and Richardson BOTH had straighforward answers even if they were about only trivial slip-ups. But not Miss-Perfection. Man, that lady's learned well in the White House. Another example of a waffling such as what the definition of the word is is.
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:05 AM
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44. Yes, Edwards Won.
It was pretty obvious. Richardson was his sometimes articulate self. Hillary didn't bomb but didn't knock out Obama as she aspired to and did come off a bit like yelling at one point (and I'm not saying this to be sexist, it has nothing to do with that). Edwards was able to go in and not only win the mini-debates, and answer questions, he got to bring out his message clearly and drive it home. The 'personal' part was good. I think I was too quick to call him phony for his adoption of Kucinich ideals (Dennis is the best for the job but won't win) and being 'approved' by Bilderberg 4 years ago. But what drove his sincerity home is his never taking lobbyist or PAC money.

After all, that is what has sold our govt. out to corporations and globalist special interests. Without a doubt, he was taking it easy on Obama and not to just make it a two person race. Let's face it, we saw Richardson / Hillary as a potential 'team' defending each other (old buddies) and Edwards and Obama as forces for change. The last two, that's the ticket, it's quite obvious. Edwards / Obama. The southerners will feel better voting for a southerner and less likely to have an issue with a 1/2 black VP. Furthermore. In the Real Clear Politics combination poll, Hillary lost to McCain. Obama tied McCain. Edwards beat him, the only Democrat who beat every Republican in that polling average.

Why aren't more Edwards fans running with that. No PAC/Lobbyist money (so he means what he says about being anti-corporate) and the only one to beat any GOP candidate.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:17 AM
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46. he really BLEW me away
I was expecting him to do good and all, but I didn't think he'd clean her clock! His slam on her about not saying anything when she was ahead, and she's the 'status quo' reallllly got to her and unraveled her into an uncomfortable emotional reply that was out of place. He remained extremely calm yet VERY impassioned, whereas Barack, who did well, seemed very fatigued.

John hit a couple of home runs tonight, and I saw some comments on a news site (ABC I think) that said they were switching to Edwards, and one lady said she's never cried when a politician said anything, but when he started talking about his family, and the lady who died from a lack of transplant and that attack on the corporations, that it made her break out in tears! John did so well, I am so happy for him.

Thank you for stating your support Beelzebud!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:28 AM
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50. He did great,
because he really has something to say.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:42 AM
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52. Truer words were never spoken! Go Johnny Go!
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:38 AM
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51. Edwards did indeed kick ass...
Too bad the debate was limited. Kucinich should have been there to speak truth to power as well.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:47 AM
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54. yep
at least someone would have mentioned that the criminals need impeached
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:49 AM
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55. Indeed he did.
Hilary had to win and she didn't (although she did okay). Edwards stole the show.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:52 AM
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60. Yes he did!
With his powerful, impassioned performance Saturday night, I doubt the MSM will be able to ignore him any longer. Even George S. had to give him kudos.
The fact that he got to Hillary, causing her to lose her composure, in itself will generate some buzz and video clips.

Keep it up, John. :bounce:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:51 AM
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61. Mr. Edwards continues to impress me.
It should have been quite obvious to anyone watching the debate that he was on top, and he made it clear he has the necessaries to be our President. More than once he silenced the others' rhetoric with his passionate call for change.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:08 AM
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63. The only real Democratic candidate that can win it all in November. Go, Johnny, Go.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:10 AM
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64. Kicking for John Edwards
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:52 AM
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65. I agree. Edwards was great, he has all the issues right, he
understands what the middle class and all in this country need & I believe he's the right candidate. He's not only for change, he's going to deliver it. The biggest problem in this country is all influence is bought & paid for by the lobbyists...one can only imagine when power is ret'd to the people, all of the good that can be accomplished.

You can't possibly choose another when you understand what is at stake & why Edwards is the right man NOW.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:58 AM
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67. More proof Edwards cleaned house
my friend, who voted for bu$h TWICE, told me he was very impressed and now understands why I support Edwards.

WooHoo
:woohoo:
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:58 AM
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68. Edwards rocked last night
I watched the debate last night, and I must say that Edwards truly owned that debate. He was on topic, and managed a few really nice slapdowns of Hillary. Hillary looked abrasive and arrogant. Obama was not impressive, and seemed to have been taken aback by Hillary's attacks. Edwards showed class in coming to Obama's defense.

The other candidate that impressed me somewhat was Bill Richardson. I wasn't impressed enough to support him for President, but I am impressed enough to think he would make a great Secretary of State.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:09 AM
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69. Richardson is running to be Hillary's VP ...
... he was a member of the previous Clinton cabinet (Ambassador) has consistently defended her throughout this season's "debates" and appearances ...


:puke:
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:21 AM
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72. And he even has his own tag line now
John Edwards. The next American President. This time it's personal.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:44 AM
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76. BAM! This time it's personal...I'm fighting for the American people. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:36 PM
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93. It is personal! Go John!
:bounce:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:31 AM
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73. Only if you were watching.
If not and you read the papers only Obama & Hillary were there.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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bazoona Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:15 AM
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82. I have been an Edwards supporter since 2004.
I am out of the country and get most of my news via the net. I have to come to DU to hear anything about Edwards. It is damn frustrating!:wtf:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:03 PM
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102. Welcome to DU
Yes it is getting real frustrating. What country are you in?
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bazoona Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:38 PM
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103. Thanks Sellitman.
I am in Kosovo right now with the U.N. and am looking forward to getting home in April.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:33 PM
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112. welcome to DU
:hi:
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bazoona Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:17 AM
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123. Thanks Cynthia
I am glad I stumbled across DU.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:32 AM
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74. i still support edwards
better choice than obama
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:49 AM
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77. YOU CAN'T FIGHT CORPORATISM IF YOU TAKE THEIR MONEY
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:50 AM by ClericJohnPreston
Which Edwards doesn't, while Hillary AND media darling Obama both do.

I used to think only Fundies and Red Staters were "rubes", able to be taken in by Evangelical references.

Here, Obama is the style and form, preferred over the substance of Edwards.

I have no faith in American voters who can't distinguish between empty rhetoric, NOT supported by action, and an Edwards who is willing to name the enemy: CORPORATISM!

Hillary is Bushco-lite with her Corporate ties and Obama not only takes their money, but then HYPOCRITICALLY speechifies that he wiould take lobbyists out of Washington. Last time I checked, his chief strategist was a lobbyist.

Obama also believes you can sit at the table with your enemy and sing Koombayah and magically create consensus.

Edwards knows a CORRECTION of FDR magnitude is necessary to effect change at this point and that in this fight, against Corporate rule, you must FIGHT, not reach with open arms across the table.

There is no question as to which candidate is the only true Democratic voice, undiluted by corporate interests: John Edwards!
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:43 AM
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85. Great post! nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:38 PM
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94. Awesome Post!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:37 PM
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98. Exactly! A guy who takes MORE Wall St. money than ANYONE (incl Rethugs) AND
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 02:38 PM by Gloria
has a guy in a top campaign position with links to the pharmaceutical industry....what does that tell you?? How much room at the table will YOU HAVE????
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:43 AM
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75. He did a fantastic job
But what a contrast between the GOP and democratic contenders. I think the format of last night's debate worked in our party's favor.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:51 AM
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78. Ok, I've got to admit I'm warming toward him.
NOT enthusiastically, mind you as I cannot forget his vote on the IWR and co-sponsorship of the Patriot Act -- BUT of the three front-runners he's starting to look like the one that is the logical choice to win the General Election. Unfortunately, he's got a HUGE uphill battle after New Hampshire (assuming he can come in first or second). NV & SC are going to cream him into 3rd (or worse) but I hope he can hold out until Super Tuesday.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:53 AM
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79. I've always preferred Edwards
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:53 AM by connecticut yankee
that is after Gore.

I think he shows warmth and compassion.

I thought Obama came off as somewhat smug.

And -- when they asked what they wish they could take back, I think it would have been funny if Edwards had said "I wish I hadn't gotten that haircut!" That might have defused that whole stupid argument.
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:22 PM
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88. I'm there, too
When I finally gave up on Gore, I got behind Edwards.

I agree that Obama came off a little smug. Maybe just tired, but seemed to lose his train of thought a couple of times.

I think Hillary did very well.

But, Edwards knocked it out of the park, imo.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:07 AM
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80. a former presidential candidate with previous national experience did better than a
younger candidate who's never run for President before?

Yeah.... sure.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:09 AM
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81. I will fight for you. I will fight for you. I will fight for you.
Mr. Edwards did not get the memo. Media said: We're tired of divisiveness. Don't hold those who have been in power accountable for what they've done with it. It's the Democrats and the Left who need to move juuust a little further over right, over, over... oops, we fell off the flat earth.

Nothing is getting done in Washington! Nothing! Let's see, we've completely dismantled the common good, the public square, even the idea that government gains its legitimacy from the people. Corporations now roam free, leaving swaths of carnage in their path. We got the warS they wanted. Privatized the out-of-control defense/intelligence boondoggle. Built new conveyor belts to move taxes to corporations via Homeland Security and the Medicare Bill. George has spent Trillions. Well, it didn't evaporate. It went somewhere. Don't tell me Washington hasn't gotten anything done. They've gotten plenty done. None of it was for us.

Edwards was the only one who noticed.


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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:28 AM
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83. A toast to Edwards and his wife!
:toast:



:patriot:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:18 PM
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87. He won the debate.
He's coming out like a rose in the Obama vs. Clinton feud. He can respond to Hillary's attacks on Obama without actually being attacked. All he needs out of New Hampshire is a solid second and I think that he wrapped that up last night. Can't wait for Tuesday! Or I guess the Wednesday morning news.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:32 PM
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89. Edwards
He seems to be a remarkable person with respect to energy and stamina.

I think that our country deserves exceptional people in the White House, not mediocre sociopaths. A JFK kinda guy that thinks good and reads a lot and empathizes with the common man.

I think the anti-corporate populism thing should resonate with all working Americans. The reason it don't is blockage from MSM.

Here's a NPR Fresh Air link new book every US working person should read:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17808622&ft=1&f=1006

-90% Jimmy
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:11 PM
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97. Wasn't that an eye-opening discussion the author, David Cay Johnston, had with Terry Gross?
Especially the part about Bush being a tax cheat to the tune of over 3 million dollars. I wish everyone in the country could hear that story. Thanks for putting the link on DU. I have the book right here on my desk and plan to start reading it this evening. The author is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist.

Peace,

freefall

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leftcoastie Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:32 PM
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92. I was surprised
not to find a "poll" immediately after the debate. It would have been very interesting to see how well Edwards played after his excellent performance. I can't imagine that HRC would not have dropped some...more.

If Edwards can keep it up throughout the process and raise the funds he'll keep pounding at the Clinton machine and do more truth telling, perhaps the population will get it!
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:56 PM
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95. K&R!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:40 PM
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99. PS to the "Hopers"--a FIGHTER galvanizes HOPE during the tough battles for the LONG TERM!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 02:43 PM by Gloria
Without a fighter for you, how long does your hope last????

Take a look at the Democratic operation for the last two years...HAPPY??? Because that's what you'll be getting with either Hillary or Obama.

Edwards may not be able to everything he wants, but if he gets people awake to the fight, that's a helluva lot accomplished. HE CAN USE THE BULLY PULPIT the way it's supposed to be used!!!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:43 PM
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100. K&R. (nt)
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:51 PM
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101. Indeed he did
:kick:

INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT IMPRECATE INCARCERATE :patriot:
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gsplfnk Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:28 PM
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106. Edwards is a corporate shill
Dear Supporter,

For the record:

New Hampshire is the first state where we are aggressively campaigning. Due to the Party lockout in Iowa, we chose to focus on New Hampshire.
I am the only person running for President who voted against the war, against funding the war 100% of the time, against the Patriot Act, and who stands for a universal single-payer not-for-profit healthcare system. Nevertheless I was excluded from Saturday night's ABC Presidential debate, or four tone monologue as it was.
In answer to your questions about why I didn't support former Senator John Edwards on the second ballot in Iowa: I have serious concerns about his connections to a Wall Street hedge fund, Fortress Investment Group. While attacking others for accepting campaign money from Washington lobbyists, he is up to his ears in money from Wall Street special interests.
He made half a million dollars in a single year for attending a few meetings for Fortress and has invested a substantial part of his own personal wealth in the hedge fund whose portfolios are responsible for sub-prime predatory lending practices, Medicare privatization, and an entire range of corporate sharp dealings that are driving the middle class into poverty.

While I indicated Senator Obama as a preferred second choice in Iowa, Progressives have fundamental disagreements with him and all of the other Presidential candidates on most of their major positions on the issues.

We must have the courage of our convictions to fully support and vote for what it is we really want. For once, we must realize our power, stop playing tactical games, and vote as a bloc - which, as you know, is what the religious right does and why they often win.

We Progressives are in the majority in this election. We will win only when we refuse to compromise and vote with integrity.

Dennis Kucinich


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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:36 PM
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107. Well... Aren't WE Pious?? And What Say You About Clinton & Obama??
Check out OpenSecrets.org and see just HOW MUCH MONEY they grabbed!!!

You condemn Edwards for "Hedge" but still support DK because he obviously doesn't like Edwards, but CAN kiss-ass with others!

Do tell, his decision as I see it was made PURELY because he can't stand Edwards!! HAD NOTHING to do with Principle!!

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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:50 PM
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116. Instead of the cut/paste of a Kucinich email, explain your claim that Edwards is a "corporate shill"
Otherwise, your post looks like some cheap hit and run.

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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:15 PM
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110. I hope the surging support here at DU translates and
spills over into the general public mindset. He started slowly, but he has really converted many people here.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:13 PM
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113. I've been an Edwards supporter ever since I photographed him (he gave a hell of a speech)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:40 PM
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117. With A Spoon! Yaouwsa! Go, Johnny, Go Go Go!
O000000000hhhhhh!

John SO does it for me!

NICE photo! Whooo hooooo!
Go, Johnny, Go Go Go!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:50 PM
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118. Teamster pride!
thanks raging, and correct, photography is not a crime!


John Edwards is a fighter - the MSM is trying to kill his message CLEARLY, even some Obama supporters realize this - he does very well at the debate and he's barely mentioned, and mostly NOT, in AP and other articles the next day. It's all Clinton/Obama, the candidates who take Wall Street Money. NOT. LOST. ON. US.

I wish more Americans paid attention.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:54 PM
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120. It's been like that for a year
But I think Edwards is going to surprise a lot of people.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:01 PM
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121. hope so... they only refer to him about 1% of the air/print time
and it's usually that he's "angry", they just refuse to say passionate about ending corporate control of policy and fighting for the middle class and poor people who need insurance!

take care bro!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:03 PM
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122. They did the same to Wesley Clark back in 2000
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