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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:25 PM
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9/11 and terrorism is going to be HUGE in election. So far Clinton instills most confidence there
Like it or not it's ALL the RePUKES talk about and that won't change. They think they still have an advantage there and they will if we nominate someone seen as a lightweight on foreign policy. It will be at least as important as health care and probably more important. So far Clinton is the only one who instills confidence in that area for most people, I know that's how I see it myself.

Obama and Edwards need to break out of their lightweight images if they want to stand a chance. That's the only reason I'm currently leaning Clinton so imagine how many independents and RePUKES will be turned off by a "lightweight" image in a candidate. A lot of independents are young new Obama voters but a lot will be social moderate but national security types.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:27 PM
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1. By your absolutely farcical logic, Edwards isn't a lightweight either
This is the most laughable hit-job I've seen in about 20 hours.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:28 PM
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2. Nonsense. The Republicans don't have anywhere near the critical mass to win an
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:34 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
election, now; haven't, for more than 7 years. Who cares what your "RePUKES" talk about or how much...? Why should anyone? What their Machiavellian leaders in the highest reaches whisper among themsleves would be another matter.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:28 PM
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3. Plain ole BS
We are to be "strong on terror" for the Repukes? Puhlease!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:29 PM
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4. As she's been consistent on that point, I do agree.
Trouble is, on other issues she hasn't been so consistent. (Chiefly domestic issues and bungling her cue cards in the debates didn't entirely help either...) If she's been caught out on those, why be 100% truthful on terrorism?

And, yeah, she is right on terrorism. But there's more to life than that. With large economic issues looming, her current stance on things doesn't inspire much confidence. We need more to go on.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:35 PM
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9. Listen up folks..As the internals in the polls say "THE ECONOMY"
is becoming the number 1 issue facing american voters.....Now be not surprised when HRC gives her big speech about the ECONOMY. She will not have to use those famous words, "IT"S THE ECONOMY STUPID" because people will remember how the other Clinton turned the economy around and that will be a big plus for HRC even before she gives the speech...The msm will be fair to her on this issue and she will receive much coverage.This is where HRC trumps obama and edwards and it is coming. So be prepared for "IT'S THE ECONOMY".......
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:30 PM
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5. I could not possibly disagree more.
And your logic plays right in to the Rethug "Dems will get us killed" logic.
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Bishop Rook Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:30 PM
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6. I don't see how Clinton has any more credibility on this
Why is she the "only one who instills confidence"? Or rather, why does she instill more confidence than Obama or Edwards? None of the three of them have dealt with such an event in any of their past experience.

Not that it matters, come the general. The country still trusts a faceless "the Democrat" more than a faceless "the Republican" on the issue of national security and terrorism, for the first time in a long time.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:31 PM
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7. How so?
By supporting a war against the wrong enemy, which has only encouraged and expanded terrorism, while distracting us from real terrorist threats?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:32 PM
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8. You know, our leadership needs to lean of the repubs
and constantly point out that it was GWB's fault that nothing was done to prevent that(and take that any way you will, but that's a fact that is not been disputed), and that they have done basically nothing to make America "safer."

The 9/11 issue has been run into the ground more than once to the benefit of the Repubs. Why are we ok with letting them do that?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:35 PM
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10. The 9/11 fear factor has worn it's self out on the American voter
There are much bigger issues at hand than the 9/11 boogy man the bu$h regime has invented.
It's the Economy stupid never rang more true and domestic issues far out weigh the fear machine Gooly is running on.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:46 PM
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13. I'm not so sure. I think rePUKES still think it's their advantage
or that they could make it their advantage again if they pound on it. With all going on in Pakistan it will probably loom large again. We need to know that.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:01 PM
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21. They will try
I just think from observations that the lie has played it's self out for the most part.
It will be brought up from republicon candidates and the MSM but when voters are asked what the issues important to them, it will come down to domestic issues. I think the negative feelings toward the bu$h regime and their crimes will play an effect.
The Democratic candidates have done a good job of using the anti bu$h meme this time. Kerry should have done it more in 04.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:38 PM
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11. Did you see the polls taken at the end of the debates last night?
BOTH groups, the Repubs audience and and the Dem audience, voted something like 42% (Repubs) and 46% (Dems) that the ECONOMY was their priority.

"Terror" was something like 13% for the Repubs and 10% for the Dems.

Where are you getting the idea that "9/11 and terrorism" are going to be the big issues? People are concerned with how much their groceries cost, and whether they'll lose their homes to either foreclosure or medical bills.

I see NO evidence that people have "terrorism" on their minds. It's not a winning issue to run on.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:47 PM
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14. The reason I think it will be is rePUKES will keep talking it up andit will BECOME the big issue
nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:54 PM
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18. Think what you want, all I'm saying is that the public won't be buying it, so the Repubs aren't
going to be able use it as a winning issue.

And I DAMN sure am not going to buy it as a reason to vote for a DEM!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:38 PM
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12. It's easy to make it an issue. Particularly with what's going on
in Pakistan. The republicans will make hay with it.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:47 PM
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15. You wouldn't have to do much to be better than Bush. You just have to listen.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:49 PM
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16. How did Rudy do in Iowa again?
To be honest, complicity in the terra scam is the single reason I will never, ever again vote for a Clinton.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:57 PM
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19. Hear, hear! Absolutely right on!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:57 PM by scarletwoman
...complicity in the terra scam is the single reason I will never, ever again vote for a Clinton.


My sentiment exactly. :thumbsup:

sw
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:09 PM
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23. And look where it got them.
All that triangulation and they're still yesterday's also-rans.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:11 PM
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24. true but that wasn't a democrat v repuke situation, all the repukes were being 9/11 fetishists nt
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:50 PM
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17. Don't you mean they are HUGH issues? Are you SERIES ???
All kidding aside, I don't think so at all. Boy (chimp) cried wolf far too many times. Don't forget what he said - fool me once....fool me again er, er er...you won't get fooled again (or whatever the idiot said!).
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:03 PM
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22. True but...look how many times it worked especially with the MSM help
big unknowns in the world right now. lots of hotspots. big potential for terra scare to rear its ugly head again and decide another election
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Bishop Rook Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:36 PM
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28. Gotta get it just right.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee--I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee--that says, fool me once, shame on... shame on you... ... Fool me, you can't get fooled again."

Obviously he was channeling The Who at the time.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:59 PM
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20. I disagree, The huge issue will be the economy
The GDP is going to be down, inflation will be up and consumer spending will be down.

They've used up almost all of the bandaids they have to slow the bleeding but they've not addressed the reasons for the hemorrhage. Things are going to get worse before they get better and Americans are going to become more and more aware of just how that will effect them personally.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:16 PM
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25. Maybe the discourse needs to change..
While my first order of business would be to end this Iraq problem, this election should not be about terrorism, and 9/11. We have a few problems here at home that are a bit more pressing. Health care, Recession, Collapsing Infrastructure, pathetic emergency response teams, etc, etc. We need to fix the problems at home before we go worrying about another 9/11.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:16 PM
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26. Where were you, the day the world stopped turning?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:25 PM
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27. Fucking hell America? It was over six years ago - get over it and grow up!
"9/11 and terrorism is going to be HUGE in election"? FFS!

You have MURDERED several "9/11"s each & every year since that event and you
still consider it so fucking important that it will decide yet another election?

You don't care enough to investigate the crime but it will control the election?

You don't worry about the traitors getting rich from their crimes but you still
use it as a scare tactic?

There are times when I can see exactly why Bush/Cheney have had two full terms
with absolutely no opposition, no restraint and no worries about either.
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