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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:05 AM
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Telecom Immunity Gives Bush Immunity
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 08:09 AM by kpete
Telecom Immunity Gives Bush Immunity
by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse
Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 06:52:33 PM PST

The Bushies have banned most senators from reading documents that offer legal grounds for warrantless surveillance. Sen. Dodd argued that all Senators should be allowed to read the documents before voting on telecom amnesty...and for good reason. Sen. Whitehouse read the documents, which he characterized as advocating a "legal doctrine for presidential lawbreaking."

The FISA plot thickens again. Bush wants to keep Senators clueless because telecom immunity also gives Bush immunity. Telecom immunity includes by definition the approval of two condition precedents: Bush had constitutional authority for the warrantless surveillance and the surveillance was determined to be lawful. Under the doctrine of Congressional ratification, the effect of this approval is to retroactively "legalize" Bush's authority and program. This means that Bush may have immunity from prosecution. Moreover, for years, Bush could not cite any statutory authority for his theory of unitary presidential prerogatives. Bush will now have precedent.

tons more facts & info:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/6/215233/4358/367/428825

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:07 AM
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1. Sometimes I think that Whitehouse is the only guy down there
who's head is completely free of his ass.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:09 AM
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2. This Is Why He Pocket Vetoed The Entire Defense Bill
This slimebag really needs that immunity and will hold the entire military hostage until he gets it. His bet is that the Democrats will again cave in...passing not just all the money this oxygen thief wants but gets his immunity as well.

Hopefully now that Senator Dodd is back at work fulltime in the Senate, he'll keep up the pressure on preventing any FISA bill from reaching a vote with any immunity in it. Here's hoping the Senate Democrats got a nice earful over the break and are seeing the primary results as some spine enhancement medicine. A guy can dream...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:11 AM
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3. "The Bushies have banned most senators from reading documents"
That line alone speaks volumes...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:22 AM
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4. yes, this was written about last summer--but the press is silent.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:23 AM
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5. REc
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:23 AM
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6. send to YOUR Senators and REPS--NOW
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:25 AM
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7. K & R --Bush must not be allowed to avoid criminal responsibility here.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:12 AM
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8. How do they continue to get away with this?
Wasn't this activity ALREADY declared unconstitutional in Federal Court?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/17/AR2006081700650.html


Shit.
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:54 AM
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9. Because they own law enforcement.
:donut:
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