If Hillary Clinton becomes President.....

[BooScout]

Do you think Bill Clinton...would play a major role as an advisor to her? Remember when he was running for President he initially said we would get 'two for one'? Do you think he'll play a large role in advising her Presidency (just as she did his) if she wins the nomination and the GE?

[donheld]

1. Of course he will

It only makes sense.

[DJ13]

2. Do you think Bill Clinton...would play a major role as an advisor to her?

Hillary was always the tringulating brains between them, so I doubt she will listen to him on policies.

Probably ask him about handling a lot of political problems though, as the 90's werent known to be a period of unity, and she's naturally divisive.

[paulk]

5. "she's naturally divisive"

Christ. Another newbie trashing a Democrat on DU. Imagine that.

[DJ13]

8. Another newbie trashing a Democrat on DU. Imagine that.

Im old enough to have voted for Carter in 1976, so maybe im more liberal than you newbies to this political game.

One thing I can tell you without a doubt, neither Clinton are liberals, despite the label you have been spoon fed by a MSM interested only in maintaining the staus quo.

[paulk]

10. LOL - it's always a mistake to assume .

I'm your age or older.

And being suspicious of people whose only agenda seems to be trashing Democrats is not the action of a "newbie to this political game".


It's mostly Republicans that are calling the Clinton's "liberal", btw.

[DJ13]

12. And being suspicious of people whose only agenda seems to be trashing Democrats

Your problem lies in assuming all Democratic candidates have the same interests as the party does, so the blanket condemnation you issue of someone who happens to think your candidate isnt one of those is wrong.

[paulk]

16. one of the most common tactics

used by disrupters on this board is to post as some sort of uber leftist.

instant cred!

you know - that old line about how some Democrats aren't really Democrats...


it works every time!

[mondo joe]

24. I smell putrid RW Talking Points.

They have not improved with age.

[bunkerbuster1]

23. Giving some benefit of the doubt...

I'll just give a little friendly advice and note that this idea of Hillary being "divisive" is made of whole cloth by the corporate media, and has no basis in the real world.

The corporate media, as always, want to keep uppity liberals down and in a world of shit, and it helps them to imagine that we loathe each other and most of our candidates. This is pure projection of course--it's the GOP's slate that is truly loathed by most loyal republican voters.

[monmouth]

3. I just read the home page article on Bill Clinton and his "80 remarks

Obama made re HRC." Bill needs to go back and shovel his sidewalk in New York. He only adds to this fracas and the repugs are eating it up. Bill defending HRC makes her look weak imo. His ego is showing and I find it very annoying. I really want to vote for her but this face time of his is too much....

[Ken Burch]

4. God help us all if he does.

His advice would always be "cave into the right on everything and fuck poor women and the workers, like we did last time".

We can't afford eight more years of that.

[MNDemNY]

6. YES! His time in office was just awful, all that balanced budget shit and all.

This country sure sank into a pit of dismay under his presidency.

[Ken Burch]

7. So the budget was balanced. It was balanced by abandoning the Democratic base

And on economics, we could have done better than "a rising tide lifts all boats".

The point, is, as even you would have to agree, there's no reason to ever have a Democratic Administration that is that far to the right again. Got it?

We never need to run on the politics of repentance and self-loathing like that again.

[OzarkDem]

28. Yeah, all that peace and prosperity

what a pain! :sarcasm:

[TahitiNut]

9. The economy was lifted by the NECK, not the bootstraps.

Welfare was DEformed and the Gini Index INCREASED. I guess it's EASY to ignore the poorest when it's not your ox being gored.

:shrug:

[MNDemNY]

11. The welfare reform ,while not perfect, was an improvement in getting people off the rolls.

Case in point, He demanded that child care subsidies be extended through the transitional period. This alone has helped many poor women advance their lives by getting an education, and good jobs outside of the rolls with out the immediate loss child care assistance. Do you really think it helps the Democratic cause to trash one of the most successful and popular Democratic Presidents ever?

[TahitiNut]

18. I don't give two fucks in a windstorm about your "Democratic cause" when it fails ...

... to be TRUTHFUL and fails to serve the common welfare of the People of this nation.

Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, ...

We spend more than the rest of the world combined on the weapons of Death and Destruction and YOU applaud throwing people "off the rolls" and into the street. Homelessness is up. Poverty is up. Wages are down. More people are without health care coverage than ever. The CHASM between the rich and the poor continues to widen. Fuck that shit!

[MNDemNY]

19. Off the rolls is were people who can work should go.

The death spiral of a welfare culture is any thing but progressive. Fuck that shit. Opportunities given are progressive, Opportunities taken are a matter of personal responsibility.A life on welfare is no life at all.

[Tyler Durden]

26. Whining about welfare is like pissing in a blast furnace.

I do not say on a forest fire, because you might actually put out a flame or two there.

When we are the world's death factory, the world's air pollution factory, the world's arms factory, and we pay almost half a TRILLION a year for the privilege, then welfare is so small potatoes it's quantum physics.

[MNDemNY]

29. It's not about the money, i's about getting people out of that cycle.

It's "public assistance" let's spend the money to truly "assist" and IMO that does not mean simply giving out cash, it's the whole give a fish-teach to fish thing.

[Tyler Durden]

30. Yeah and it's a rePuke talking point.

I have nothing against helping people WORK, But without decent Child Care, AFFORDABLE or Single Payer Health Care, and public transit, it will go NOWHERE.

It's like complaining about there being no US Citizens educated as engineers when college costs of $25,000 a year. Moot.

on edit: OH YEAH, a LIVING WAGE would be a good thing too.

[MNDemNY]

31. I'm all for affordable child care, and single payer health care, what's your point?

[Tyler Durden]

33. That those come FIRST not SECOND

Without those, there's no POINT in pushing people off welfare.

If you can't BE independent because the society doesn't support it, then, as they do in England, leave 'em on the dole.

It works better and cheaper in the long run.

[niceypoo]

20. Bill Clinton owned the right when he was in Office

[niceypoo]

21. Bill Clinton owned the right when he was in Office

[blondeatlast]

13. If he helps her pick a Cabinet, I'm all for it.

Robert Reich, Madeline Albright, Lloyd Bentsen, Bruce Babbitt, Bill Richardson, etc...

She's my last choice, but she gets my vote if she gets the nod.

[BooScout]

14. If at all possible can you answer the question please........

It's a simple question. I didn't ask if they were Liberal or Conservative. I didn't ask if the world would blow up if Hillary got elected.

I asked if you thought Bill would be a major advisor to her if he was elected. JFC does everything have to be so damned argumentative? I just wanted opinions on whether he you thought he would be an advisor or not......does everything have to degenerate into a bitch slapping contest around here lately?

Here's a clue.......there's no right or worng answer to my question. I just wanted your opinion on what may or may not happen. Sheesh.

[blondeatlast]

15. Advisor, yes. Major,? I'm doubtful, but as I state above, he gave us a dynamic

and proactive Cabinet, so I hope he will at least help her with that.

And your frustration is well understood--there's little room for intelligent discussion here any more between the hot air and the flying poo.

[rucky]

17. That's why she's a frontrunner.

Not to slight her, as much as the "twofer" idea being enticing to most folks. It's the most positive thing I can say about her candidacy at the moment.

[mondo joe]

22. Yes, I think he will. They have a very symbiotic relationship. But I also think he'll

have plenty of his own activity, and she'll make her own decisions.

[bunkerbuster1]

25. Yes.

He will play some publicly prominent role on international good-will feel-good things, so as not to upset too many folks. Probably head some task force on hunger, AIDS, suchlike.

(I'm all for feel-good things, mind you--don't mean to trivialize such work. But I also accept that there are some areas of interest that are more acceptable to Republicans than others--like, say, Jimmy Carter's Habitat for Humanity work, which most will grudgingly admire even if they loathe Carter for everything else he's done.)

[OzarkDem]

27. I hope so

He was a great president.

[Orsino]

32. We'll never know how major his role is.

I'm sure she would use him for photo ops, at the very least. Whatever his role, it would be spun however the new President wanted. Either he'll be vocal about how he helps, or he'll praise her as not needing much of his advice.