I hope DUers who keep taking Clinton's comments out of context

[CatWoman]

about Obama+fairy tale+MLK+ whatever are watching Dan Abrams.

ENOUGH of this shit.

[journalist3072]

1. The anti-Clinton brigade here on DU does not live in the reality-based community. They know damn

well that they are taking her comments out of context, and they don't care. They just want to try to score political points against her.

And I loved President Clinton on Tom Joyner this morning. He was amazing and he said he's sick of the double standard.

He said no one raised a stink when David Axelrod basically accused Sen. Clinton of being responsible for Butto's death b/c of her Iraq war vote.

And he said they have been much kinder to the Obama camp, than the Obama camp has been to them.

He was dead-on.

[boston bean]

11. They cannot see. They are blinded by light of hope and change.

And a good speech that's getting old.

They will soon come to the realitization he was not really against the war, I hope so anyways, they totally gloss over the point that he continued to fund the war. The clintons are dead right on this.

He has not been vetted by the media to this day. I hope that day will come through soon though. Maybe we will see a change in tomorrow nights debate. One can hope. It is what the party needs.

[Hutzpa]

28. And you are blinded by

'Divide and Conquer'

[hlthe2b]

2. yes... he is doing a good job countering the BS

with the actual facts of what happened (and the MSM agendas at play)

[CatWoman]

3. i got into it with some knuckleheads in LBN yesterday

and I just left it alone.

I had my say and split.

[hlthe2b]

5. I just can't argue with those who refuse to listen anymore...

Damn, it is frustrating....Why we can not give our own candidates benefit of the doubt (at all), but would rather hand the RW a shit load of ammunition against us in the GE, is just beyond me...

[rodeodance]

4. great news.

[durrrty libby]

6. Yep, For people who don't trust the media, they sure have lapped it up

[de teodoru]

7. IT'S NOT FUNNY...IT'S DEADLY

DEMOCRATS COMMITTING SUICIDE..AGAIN!

AS ONE WHO BECAME A DEMOCRAT TO SAVE AMERICA, I PLEAD
WITH HILLARY TO ACT PRESIDENTIAL, NOT BILL-LIKE!

When will this kind of CAMPAIGN crap AS EXPOSED BELOW
stop?
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NY Times repeatedly truncated Clinton civil rights
comments
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801120003

As blogger and media critic Greg Sargent noted, a
January 11 New York Times article by Carl Hulse
truncated Democratic presidential candidate Hillary
Rodham Clinton's January 7 comments about civil
rights, omitting Clinton's reference to former
President John F. Kennedy. A January 9 New York Times
editorial, as well as a January 7 blog post by Sarah
Wheaton on the Times' politics blog, The Caucus, and a
January 7 blog post titled "Clinton and Obama, Johnson
and King" by Politico senior political writer Ben
Smith, also omitted the reference to Kennedy. Each of
these pieces quoted Clinton saying that "Dr. King's
dream began to be realized when President Lyndon
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964" and that
"it took a president to get it done." But each of them
omitted the middle portion of Clinton's full quote,
which was: "I would point to the fact that that Dr.
King's dream began to be realized when President
Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
when he was able to get through Congress something
that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the
president before had not even tried, but it took a
president to get it done" .

As Sargent also noted, the full quotation including
the reference to Kennedy appeared in a January 11 post
in The Caucus.

Smith later repeated Clinton's full comment in a
separate post on his Politico blog titled "Clinton,
Kennedy, King" and updated his earlier post to provide
a link to the later post.

In a January 7 interview, Fox News political
correspondent Major Garrett asked Clinton if she would
react to a portion of a quote from Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama: "False hopes? ...
Dr. King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial
looking out over the magnificent crowd, the reflecting
pool, the Washington Monument: 'Sorry, guys. False
hope. The dream will die. It can't be done.' " Clinton
said:

I would, and I would point to the fact that that Dr.
King's dream began to be realized when President
Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
when he was able to get through Congress something
that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the
president before had not even tried, but it took a
president to get it done. That dream became a reality.
The power of that dream became real in people's lives
because we had a president who said, "We are going to
do it," and actually got it accomplished.

The Times article, editorial, and January 7 Caucus
blog post as well as Smith's January 7 post titled
"Clinton and Obama, Johnson and King" all omitted the
words "when was able to get through Congress
something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do,
the president before had not even tried."

From the January 9 editorial:

In Mrs. Clinton's zeal to make the case that
experience (hers) is more important than inspirational
leadership (Mr. Obama's), she made some peculiar
comments about the relative importance of the Rev. Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr. and President Lyndon Johnson to
the civil rights cause. She complimented Dr. King's
soaring rhetoric, but said: "Dr. King's dream began to
be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the
Civil Rights Act of 1964. ... It took a president to
get it done. "

Why Mrs. Clinton would compare herself to Mr. Johnson,
who escalated the war in Vietnam into a generational
disaster, was baffling enough. It was hard to escape
the distasteful implication that a black man needed
the help of a white man to effect change. She pulled
herself back from the brink by later talking about the
mistreatment and danger Dr. King faced. Former
President Bill Clinton, who seems to forget he is not
the one running, hurled himself over the edge on
Monday with a bizarre and rambling attack on Mr.
Obama.

From the January 11 article:

In an interview with Fox News on Monday, Mrs. Clinton,
who was locked in a running exchange with Senator
Barack Obama, a rival for the Democratic presidential
nomination, over the meaning of the legacies of
President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin
Luther King Jr., tried to make a point about
presidential leadership.

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,"
Mrs. Clinton said in trying to make the case that her
experience should mean more to voters than the
uplifting words of Mr. Obama. "It took a president to
get it done."

Quickly realizing that her comments could draw
criticism, Mrs. Clinton returned to the subject at a
later stop, recalling how Dr. King was beaten and
jailed and how he worked with Johnson to pass the
landmark law. Clinton advisers said her first remark
had not captured what she meant to convey. And they
said she would never detract from a movement that has
driven her own public service.

From the January 7 post on the Times' The Caucus blog:

Only a few hours later, she brought up the civil
rights legislation herself in remarks to a Fox News
correspondent.

Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have been in a running feud
arising from her suggestion at Saturday's debate that
he was raising "false hope."

Mr. Obama responded that Mr. Kennedy did not decide
going to the moon was a false hope and that Martin
Luther King, Jr. did not see ending segregation as
such.

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Mrs. Clinton
said when asked about Mr. Obama's rejoinder by Fox's
Major Garrett after her speech in Dover. "It took a
president to get it done."

Smith's January 7 blog post titled "Clinton and Obama,
Johnson and King" in its entirety:

Clinton rejoined the running argument over hope and
"false hope" in an interview in Dover this afternoon,
reminding Fox's Major Garrett that while Martin Luther
King Jr. spoke on behalf of civil rights, President
Lyndon Johnson was the one who got the legislation
passed.

Hillary was asked about Obama's rejoinder that there's
something vaguely un-American about dismissing hopes
as false, and that it doesn't jibe with the careers of
figures like like John F. Kennedy and King.

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said.
"It took a president to get it done."

Clinton didn't explicitly compare herself to Johnson,
or Obama to King. But it seems an odd example for the
argument between rhetoric and action, as there's
little doubt which figure's place in history and the
American imagination is more secure.

"The power of that dream became real in people's lives
because we had a president" capable of action, Clinton
said.

The interview was taped, and I listened in. It's set
to air later today.

UPDATE: Here's the video.

UPDATE: In Salem this evening, Hillary seemed to be
seeking to repair the impression that King hadn't done
political work, and to contrast King and Obama.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. led a movement - he was
gassed, he was beaten, he was jailed - and he gave a
speeh that was one of the most beautifully,
profoundly important speeches ever delivered in
America, the "I have a dream" speech.... And hten
he worked with President Johnson to get the
civil rights law passed, because the dream couldn't be
realized until it was legally permissible for people
of all races and colors and background to be
recognized as citizens.

UPDATE: More on what she said, here.

On January 7, TPM Media editor and publisher Josh
Marshall wrote that "the edited quote that's
circulating from The Politico is misleading."

In his final update to the post, Smith linked to a
separate January 7 post responding to Marshall that
contained the full quote from Clinton.

Contact:
The New York Times
Daniel Okrent, NY Times public editor
[e-mail]
New York Times
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[e-mail]

Clark Hoyt, NY Times public editor
[e-mail]
New York Times
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HAVE WE NOT HAD ENOUGH OVER THE SWIFT-BOATING OF
KERRY? DO WE NOW NEED THE RACE-BOATING OF THE
CLINTON-OBAMA PRIMARIES RACE?

IF THERE IS A RACIAL ISSUE BETWEEN CLINTON AND OBAMA
THEN LETS TALK IT OUT FAST, HONESTLY AND NOT LEAVE IT
AS A WATER TORTURE OF CLINTON AND WATER-BOARDING OF
OBAMA. There will be a very sad SECRET rejection of
Obama by many WHITE AND LATINO voters because he is
black and there are complicated black-white
psychological issues Obama's campaign creates, so well
stated by Shelby Steele, a back Conservative scholar:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01112008/transcript1.html

So to now add to this word games such as the
MediaMatters Blog mentions is to poison the well's
precarious amounts of water still left in it: the
Democratic Presidential Well.

Today on MEET THE PRESS, Hillary sounded defensively
like the "Come Back Kid" himself, Bill Clinton--
obfuscating and attacking and avoiding taking a stand.
THAT IS NOT HILLARY. SHE IS REALLY THE LADY WHO
EXPLAINED THAT SHE'S IN THIS THING TO AVOID AMERICA
CONTINUING TO SLIDE BACK-- let's all remember that.
BUT IF "CHANGE" FOR HER MEANS MORPHING INTO BILL, SHE
MAY WELL WIN THE NOMINATION BUT, LIKE KERRY, THE
NOMINATION CAMPAIGN WILL COME TO HAUNT HER LIKE A
DEADLY POISON IN THE ELECTORAL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

It was not easy for me to choose Hillary over Obama. I
think Obama will be a great president, especially with
an ACTIVIST FIRST LADY LIKE HIS WIFE. But, reading
Rove's psychopathic essays in the WALL STREET JOURNAL,
I have to admit that criminal dements like Rove have
indeed warped, twisted and traumatized the American
collective mind as they duped and exploited it. Obama
will be seen by too many by now ill Americans as of
one side of the many polarized raged warring factions
that Rove had created to keep Bush's presidency from
defeat and from impeachment. Most Americans can
believe Hillary-- especially as a woman who, because
she's a woman, reminds them of their mom keeping the
typical American family from coming apart; only a
woman would bring us together, exactly as Obama so
eloquently advocates. Over the next eight years
Hillary could really stop the slide she worries about,
making America ready for Obama in 2016, for him to
lead America in its unified and educated
socio-economic take off as a rocket into yet another
decade. Just as JFK set up America for the takeoff in
technology and civil rights that LBJ led us through
(despite the Vietnam War), in 2009 Hillary can make us
all see each other as members of one family before
Obama leads the family in 2017 out of the darkness.
Our re-unification that Obama speaks of so eloquently
requires preparation by the uniting genes in a woman's
genome rather than all the male polarization that the
Republican candidates will be promoting during the
Presidential Campaign of 2008. We need a woman
president to shame the Congress into mensch so they
can have courage and ideals again...And then, our
Democrat Moses, Obama, can take us out of the
self-destructive ignorant and violent dark middle age
bravado Bush has sunken us into; then, AND ONLY THEN,
we again can be a leader nation rather than a pariah.
But that requires a woman's skill. It requires the
holding-the-family-together instincts of a woman that
Hillary has, for better or worse, had probably more
experience with doing than any other woman in America;
the very Hillary, who used the gimmick of a "wide
right wing conspiracy" to say to Bill: I will work to
save us all from evil, not to forgive, not to forget,
your very injurious recklessness. It was, in fact,
Hillary who kept the Clinton White House staff from
collectively saying: "F---ck you Bill," and walking
out.

I would never wish on Obama the task of bringing
together the sick and demented middle aged America
that Bush leaves behind-- a sort of collective Imus--
back to health. But I think Hillary can heal us
back--though that will historically prove to be a
thankless task, unappreciated as women usually are.
But she wants the job and she is ready to nurse
America back to health so that Obama can lead it to
renewed vigor as once again a leader with sparking
potential. A century from now, people will talk about
what Obama did in his post-Hillary eight years as
President to raise America out of its Middle Ages, not
about the healing so that Obama could do that which
Hillary will bring about over the next eight years.
Women are indeed taken for granted and invisible,
whether as homemakers or President. But if Hillary
wants the job-- as she said, not for fame but out of
caring-- then, remembering the family-saving job
mommies do everyday all over America, I say YES,
HILLARY, THANK YOU, WE NEED YOU-- NOW!

It is gravely unfair that Obama-- WHO IS VERY VERY
QUALIFIED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF UNITY AND CHANGE--
should have to pass up the job in 2008 because America
now needs a woman's touch and would reject a black
leader because racism is the vestige inheritance of
the Rove created Bush "compassionate conservatism." I
WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA WITHOUT A BLINK. But I wouldn't
want him to be forced into a failed position just
because the timing is wrong. I don't want him to be
marked as the Black Democrat candidate that made
possible a Republican victory-- even when every
American hates Bush-- because they chose a Republican
so white that he suffers from melanoma who is too old,
too weak and too much of a Mr. Gimmick to bring about
the changes he really, in his heart, though a
Republican, wishes to bring about.

In medicine, students are taught first and foremost:
ABOVE ALL DO NO HARM. If you give a patient the wrong
drug and not only it doesn't stop the pathology but
leaves the patient vulnerable to other illnesses, no
matter how dedicated you are to making that patient
well, you will be remembered as the wrong doctor who
gave the wrong medicine at the wrong time and made the
patient worse. DEMOCRATS SHOULD REMEMBER THAT CLINTON,
OBAMA AND EDWARDS ARE ALL FANTASTIC POWERFUL
MEDICINES, BUT THE VOTER MUST BE GIVEN THE RIGHT
PRESIDENTIAL MEDICINE FOR THE RIGHT ILLNESS FROM WHICH
SUFFERS AMERICA, AT THE RIGHT TIME. Right now, Obama
would be victim of the racism middle aged America uses
as an outlet for its frustration and self-doubt
because it can't get it up. The immigration issue is a
code word for dark skin, which itself is a code word
for what makes us sick: BLIND BLAME-- it's the fault
of the "others" in America. When a nation of math and
science illiterate, lazy and full of get-rich-quick
irresponsible parasites calling themselves
"entrepreneurs" who suck the life out of America on
the assumption that there's a new sucker born every
day-- blaming all the legal and illegal immigrants
which THEY THEMSELVES ENCOURAGE TO COME TO AMERICA AND
DO THE JOBS AMERICANS CAN'T OR WON'T DO (high and low
tech), then Americans show disease symptoms with a
poor national prognosis. All this is America unwilling
and unable to realize that is is getting middle aged
and thus not dealing with why it can no longer get it
up. We've all been GW Bush high on Viagra, shooting
"preemptively." Back when we were young, premature
ejaculation led to humiliating derision. You were seen
as someone who can't control his own drives, like Bill
Clinton. Now we all worry that we can't get there and
swallow pills whose side effects we neither know nor
care about.

THAT HILLARY STUCK WITH BILL, DEFENDED HIM AND
SUPPORTED HIM SO THAT, LIKE CARTER, HE COULD BE TEN
TIMES THE MAN AS AN EX-PRESIDENT THAT HE WAS AS A
PRESIDENT, BESPEAKS HER SKILL AT STANDING BY HER MAN.
IN EXACTLY THAT WAY, WE CAN SEE HER AS PRESIDENT
STANDING BY HER COUNTRY TO NURSE US THROUGH OUR
RECOVERY OF DIGNITY AND ABILITY IN MIDDLE AGE-- AFTER
WE CAN'T GET IT UP ANYMORE.

THERE'S A TRANSITION TO MIDDLE AGE THAT REQUIRES
REALIZING WHAT YOU CAN NOW DO BUT COULDN'T WHEN
YOUNGER AND HOW MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE AND SIGNIFICANT
IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WHEN MORE MATURE THAN WHAT YOU
COULD ONLY DO WHEN ADOLESCENT IN BODY AND MIND. ONCE
WE BECOME DISCIPLINED AND GATHERED TOGETHER AS A
NATION NURSED BACK TO HEALTH-- HOPEFULLY IN EIGHT
YEARS-- I WILL DEVOTE WHAT'S LEFT OF MY LIFE-- IF
STILL ALIVE THEN-- TO MAKE OBAMA THE FIRST BLACK
AMERICAN PRESIDENT-- NOT BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, BUT
BECAUSE HE IS A BORN LEADER WITH A WIFE WORTH HER
WEIGHT IN GOLD TO BRING OUT AMERICA'S GREATNESS. BUT,
NOW WE NEED HILLARY TO NURSE US THROUGH OUR TRANSITION
TO ACCEPTING OURSELVES, OUR LIMITATIONS AND THE
EFFORTS WE HAVE TO MAKE TO HEAL OURSELVES AS A GREAT
NATION THAT IS VERY, VERY SICK.

BUT I CAUTION HILLARY: she will not be credible as the
American Joan of Arc agent of "CHANGE" that we need to
save us from ourselves and our ROVE VIRUS if she lets
the stupid farts around Bill put the words into her
mouth or Bill play "bad cop" to her "good cop" in the
campaign against Obama.

ISN'T IT BAD ENOUGH THAT THE VERY "REAGAN DEMOCRATS"
THAT CAME BACK TO THE PARTY WILL CAUSE OBAMA TO LOSE
THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDACY BY A HAIR, DESPITE HIS
MESMERIZING APPEAL AND OBVIOUS BRILLIANCE, ONLY
BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. CALLING OBAMA'S LIFE "FAIRY
TALES" IS TYPICAL OF THE ONLY KIND OF SLANDER AND
OBFUSCATION BILL COULD COME UP WITH TO DRAW ATTENTION
AWAY FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS OVERACTIVE
PITUITARY. IN POLITICS, HIS ADVICE IS BASED ON THE
ONLY THING HE HAS TO OFFER, ***HIS*** EXPERIENCE, AND
IT AIN'T PRETTY...IT CERTAINLY AIN'T ***CHANGE***.

So Hillary, I love you and admire you for your courage
and caring so much for America as to become the
transition president nurturing us thanklessly back to
health so that Obama can follow you and turn healing
into rebirth. I will devote day after day to your
campaign. BUT PLEASE, STOP LISTENING TO THE
ROVE-WANNA-BES AROUND BILL. Try to remember what they
all said on C-SPAN the day after Kerry was defeated in
2004. IT WAS ***ALL*** OF BILL'S SCUM BAG ADVISERS WHO
PRAISED ROVE AS AN OMNIPOTENT MAGICIAN. IT WAS
***THEY*** WHO INSISTED THAT UNLESS THE DEMOCRATS
BECOME ROVE-AND-BUSH-LIKE THEY WILL LOSE.

HILLARY, YOU LISTEN TO BILL AND HIS SCUMBAGS AS A
SENATOR AND NOW YOU CARRY IRAQ ON YOUR BACK AS A MUCH
HEAVIER SAC THAN DOES MCCAINE. WHEN THE INSURGENTS
RAISE OUR WEEKLY CASUALTIES BEFORE THE ELECTION--
PROVING THAT PETREAUS REALLY DID BETRAY US OR WAS A
FOOL-- PEOPLE WILL BLAME YOU, NOT MCCAIN BECAUSE HE'S
A REPUBLICAN.

35% OF AMERICANS STILL SEE IRAQ AS THE NUMBER ONE
ISSUE; BUSH BEAT GORE BY ABRA CADABRA OVER A FEW
THOUSAND VOTES....DON'T LET THAT BE YOUR FATE BECAUSE
YOU ***STILL*** FOLLOW THE STUPID ADVICE OF BILL'S
"EXPERTS" WHO ARGUE THAT YOU HAVE TO PRETEND THAT YOU
ARE HARRY TRUMAN IN 1948, TOUGH ON FOREIGN POLICY!

PLEASE, HILLARY, BE YOUR OWN WOMAN AND WIN SO YOU CAN
SAVE AMERICA BY NURSING IT BACK TO SANITY IN THESE
TIMES OF SELF-DOUBT AND MIDDLE AGED FEAR.

YOU CAN DO IT BUT YOU MUST NEVER ATTACK OBAMA ON RACE
AND YOU MUST ALWAYS EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO HIM FOR
GIVING YOU THE CHANCE, THE SAME GRATITUDE THAT HE WILL
EXPRESS IN EIGHT YEARS WHEN YOU GIVE HIM A HEALTHIER
AMERICA TO LEAD.

Daniel E. Teodoru

[CatWoman]

8. what the fuck are YOU talking about?????

what is all that gibberish???

[liberalnurse]

17. Just a thread busting troll again. Second post and this is what it gives off.

Re-post your thread why don't ya............:loveya:

[trumad]

15. You lost me at "IT'S NOT FUNNY".

[CatWoman]

24. TRU, Baby!!!!!

:hi:

:loveya:

[trumad]

32. Love you toooo baby!

[jody]

9. CatWoman, you precipitate another exchange between "youthful exuberance" and "aged wisdom".

Have a nice day. :hi:

[CatWoman]

10. Jody!!

:hi:

:loveya:

sometimes I just wanna scream, you know?

[Catherine Vincent]

12. Obama's got lots of attack dogs here. nt

[boston bean]

14. They are congratulating themselves on how gracious he was to do what he did today. nt

[Mutineer]

19. Like HRC doesn't?

Please. But keep supporting her and her billionaire corporate friends.

[liberalnurse]

13. You bring a breath of fresh air tonight.

No other Presidential Candidate has ever, in our American history, ever been subjected to this 24/7 gauntlet of intentional character assassination tactics. Hillary Clinton is an amazing hero for all of us.

I am humbled by her strength to endure.

[CatWoman]

21. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

pie...............

:)

[Catherine Vincent]

16. I actually wish you would post this in GD-P.

I don't think they would mess with you, Cat Woman. :)

[CatWoman]

22. lol

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

18. Grrr!

My favorite cat lady! :loveya:

[Pastiche423]

20. You are supporting Clinton, CatWoman?

[CatWoman]

23. I'm an Edwards woman

but bullshit is bullshit.

And I call bullshit on this "non issue".

[glarius]

25. self delete

self delete

[glarius]

26. I'm speaking as a non-American observer, but as I remember it, Lyndon Johnson

has always been given credit for being able to get the civil rights legislation passed that President Kennedy was unable to. It sounded to me that that's the point Hillary was making, not that she was diminishing the crucial and wonderful work of Martin Luther King in his fight for civil rights. Dan Abrams is right on. The media has built it into a non-existant race war.

[CatWoman]

29. I wonder about Kennedy, as I know what a racist his father was

Sammy Davis Jr. was banned from Kennedy's inauguration, because Davis was married to a white (Swede?) woman. And Davis worked his ass off for Kennedy.

Dean Martin boycotted the inauguration because of this.

And the elder Kennedy berated his son in law, Peter Lawford, for being too "friendly" with Blacks.

Not saying that Kennedy was a racist, but I'm wondering how much of his heart was in that legislation getting passed.

[glarius]

30. I don't know about JFK.....actually I've always thought Robert was more of

a humanitarium than JFK.

[robbedvoter]

27. Candidates agreed. Case closed. Let's leave race and gender out.

[shugah]

31. the anti-clinton thing is backfiring

it's been interesting to watch. i started a thread awhile back about how i really had to look carefully at Hillary, because the constant rabid attacks could not possibly accurately reflect the real person.

a couple of days later, i heard racheal maddow basically saying the same thing i had been trying to express - Hillary is getting hit so hard that one feels almost compelled to defend her. racheal was talking to tweety, i think, and told him that he was cited on the blogosphere as one of the reasons Hillary won the NH primary. poor tweety - :rofl: (of course, if his head didn't explode upon hearing that tidbit, i guess it never will *sigh*)

[blondeatlast]

33. Since Abrams isn't a career journalist, he doesn't mind taking the others to task.

I appreciate that. Someone needs to call these pretty boys and girls on their BS.

He did a fine job of it--and I'm not supporting anyone yet.