Thom Hartmann is insane

[Red Zelda]

I've been listening to this fool for a while now and am convinced that he's a complete loon. Thanks for giving a monster named Jonah Golberg the mic today, Thom, then defending him to subsequent callers.

And Thom's chronic John Adams bashing is completely bizarre. His lack of knowledge of Colonial America and the geopolitics of the late 18th century is vast. Read David McCullogh's book "John Adams," and you'll discover what a fool Hartmann is on this topic. Oh, hey, why doesn't Hartmann, the faux intellectual, have McCullough on? Guess that would be too much for Air America's biggest jackass.

Please, Thom, shut the fuck up. (I just changed the channel)

[NightWatcher]

1. he doesnt defend them, he lets them speak then he rips them a new one

he does however not trash the person after they hangup. it's not too nice to trash people who cannot defend themselves.

I get sick of hearing the Ayn Rand people on there weekly, but he lets them hang themselves by their own words.

He's a freakin genius

[NewJeffCT]

46. He's often pretty good, but

I've heard Thom not come across all that well at times on certain issues, or not make his point forcefully enough.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. I missed the John Adams part.

What specifically did he criticize? Adams' penchant towards federalism?

[Red Zelda]

12. It seems to me...

that he's got some hard-on for Thomas Jefferson and doesn't realize that without Adams there would have been no independence to start with.

He pillories Adams by referring to him as the first "conservative president" and for the Alien & Sedition Acts without putting them all in the complex context of the times. He refers to Benjamin Franklin Bache's unfortunate imprisonment without realizing Bache was a liar, a charlatan and a Rupert Murdoch for the day. And, please, Thom, note that Adams owned no slaves. Never did. Jefferson owned many and fucked some.

[tishaLA]

3. He really is clueless about the late 18th Century

and yet he rambles on and on about it. I'm sure it impresses some people....

[Justpat]

4. I disagree.

Thom gives the right wingers a mic with which they weekly choke themselves with
their own words.

He offers people a lesson in how to take on right wingers and win an argument
with them.

[EVDebs]

7. Yes. Hoist them on their own petard ! Rightwingmedia doesn't hold a candle to AirAmerica nt

[EVDebs]

5. Goldberg's saying Liberalism is Fascism. Goldberg's the loon. Thom just let him prattle on

And after being questioned by Thom, tail between his legs Goldberg skidaddled on to another interview (presumably Fox Snooze or Hannity or Rush).

[bullwinkle428]

27. Oh, I'm willing to bet he had no "other interview" -

he was getting his ASSSSSSSSSS kicked by Thom, and decided to retreat to a warm and comforting place behind Lucianne's apron!

"Mom kin I haz book deal?" :rofl:

[EVDebs]

31. Most assuredly. Listening to Goldberg's passionately illogical non-sequiters is painful

[EFerrari]

34. Do you know who published that "work"?

I caught his BookTv presentation over the weekend. Any day now, Bush is going to call him and tell him to shut up about fascists and Nazis and the rest of his family. :rofl:

[EVDebs]

35. Salon article: "We're all fascists now" LOL !!!! Doubleday publisher

for those who can handle it (Warning, Goldberg's ideas can induce vomiting)

"We're all fascists now"
An interview with conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg, who argues that fascism is left-wing, not right-wing, and that contemporary liberals are fascism's intellectual offspring.

By Alex Koppelman
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/01/11/goldberg/


BTW, from Amazon.com,

"Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning
Publisher: Doubleday (January 8, 2008)""

Up is Down in the necon spinwirld.

[EFerrari]

38. Thanks. If you take it to be a RW projection, it's a pretty telling one.

Which I do. Who could ever have imagined that "islamofascist" would morph into "liberal fascist"? We could.

[EVDebs]

41. Their world is crashing down on their heads and they can only hope to lie their way out of the mess

THEY'VE GOTTEN US INTO. SCOTUS, White House and for the longest time control of Congress. Whew, it'll be morning in America soon after the long night of conservatism.

[EFerrari]

42. I hope so. Let's nail that top down hard.

I'm writing an essay on how Ronald Reagan was behind 9/11. Seriously! It's time to bring out the bigger hammers.

[ursi]

6. I love Thom Hartmann. He lets us hear how the loons think!

And his books are great.

And I agree, if we don't like someone, we can always turn the channel! Or turn it off!

[EFerrari]

8. Why don't you call him and offer your expert opinion on Adams

if you can without embarrassing yourself with that mouth.

[Puglover]

9. I could'nt have said it better myself.

:thumbsup:

[Red Zelda]

13. Beacuse I have to go to work

and can't afford to wait 45 minutes to get through to the pinhead.

[devilgrrl]

18. "pinhead"? Is that you Mr. O'Rlly?

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

28. You must be talking about some other Thom Hartmann.

The Thom Hartmann I know has a breadth and depth of knowledge AND ability AND experience that makes him one of the most remarkable people on the air today. Or, anywhere today, for that matter.

And, on top of that, he's one of the most compassionate people I've ever sort of met AND I AND DUers owe him big time for his kindness in helping us get Andy's fundraiser off the ground.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

55. Yep. Author of 19 books, four-time Project Censored winner, on and on

sounds to me like the OP is clueless...

The co-founder (with his wife, Louise) of The New England Salem Children’s Village (1978) and The Hunter School (1997), he has led national innovations in the areas of residential treatment for abused children and private/public education for learning-disabled children.

Hartmann is the four-time Project Censored Award-winning, New York Times best-selling author of nineteen books currently in print in over a dozen languages on five continents. He is the former executive director of a residential treatment program for emotionally disturbed and abused children, and has helped set up hospitals, famine relief programs, schools, and refugee centers in India, Uganda, Australia, Colombia, Russia, and the United States through the German-based Salem International program.

One of his books was selected for inclusion in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian for its “visionary use of information technology to produce positive social, economic, and educational change in medicine.” His book The Prophet’s Way led to an unsolicited invitation to a private audience with Pope John Paul II in 1998. His book The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight led to a September, 1999 unsolicited invitation to spend a week with His Holiness The Dalai Lama at his home in Dharamsala, India, and inspired a web-based movie ("Global Warning") written and produced by Leonardo DiCaprio.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=32

[damntexdem]

10. Are you trying to make a point?

I only wish I still had the option to listen to Hartmann on the radio, could choose to turn him off when I thought him too loony.

[krispos42]

16. He's on at 2pm Central time on the Series of Tubes

Air American Minnesota carries Ed Schultz live at 11, and a replay of Thom at 2

http://www.airamericaminnesota.com/stream.m3u

Enjoy!

[Arkansas Granny]

36. I listen to him online at work.

http://www.novamradio.com/

[Cassandra]

52. White Rose has mp3's

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/Hartmann.html

Ben has made them available w/o commercials and for free. I have dial-up and can load them in a bit over an hour; they then play very well. Obviously, broadband will be much faster.

[Postman]

11. How many books on the subject have you published?

I'd say Thom Hartmann is pretty knowledgable about colonial America.

John Adams threw people in jail for speaking their mind. You approve ?

[Red Zelda]

14. Publishing books is the sign of genius, right?

Just ask Ann Coulter.

[thoughtanarchist]

17. ...or David McCullogh?

:eyes:

[MiniMe]

25. I believe you are dodging the question.

[LSK]

15. nope, you are wrong

He demonstrates how to debate these Right wing fools. How the hell would you know how to debate the right wingers without practice? His right winger interviews allow us to hear from the other side and how to debate and refute them.

Sam Seder does this to some degree also.

Its good to step outside of the bubble because the real world is not a bubble and we do have to encounter these right wing fools.

[AlCzervik]

19. i love his show, it's one of the few where you actually learn something.

[patrice]

20. Thom knows the real truth does not exist in a vacuum. He demonstrates its

strength by creating dialogue. Sometimes I think he doesn't quite get where I'd like to see him go with the dialectic, but I absolutely respect and admire the courage, integrity, intelligence, and knowledge he spreads in doing it.

[Johonny]

21. hmm...

I have my days where I think Hartmann is a loon. I like his, don't love it.

[DiverDave]

22. Maybe we should give him YOUR number

then he can show you what an ass you are...

[riverdeep]

23. In all seriousness,

if you're too busy to call him up, send him an email. I'm sure he'd be interested in a different POV. You can also, at minimum, send him this link.

[classof56]

24. I haven't changed the channel but I have just put you on ignore.

You're the third one I've done that to in all my years on DU. Go congratulate yourself!

[WA98296]

26. Better idea, please how about you shut the fuck up?

[dkofos]

29. Some people will never get it.

[EFerrari]

43. Yeah. Especially that exchange of ideas part.

Maybe you first have to experience an idea.

lol

[B Calm]

30. Seeing how smart you are, I can't believe you don't have your own radio show!

[fascisthunter]

32. Did Thom Hartmann Make a Right Winger Look Bad Today?

your post stinks.

[walldude]

33. LMAO... yeah..

First you say TH is insane then you say that having books published doesn't make you an expert, then you say to read David McCollogh's book to understand how stupid TH is. What a clever defense. Call David Wolf I hear he needs writers for Law and Order...

[EFerrari]

39. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[dionysus]

37. Thom Hartmann's craps are more knowledgable than you.

thats is all.

[devilgrrl]

40. Dumbest thread ever!

:hi:

[EFerrari]

44. I don't think this thread is long enough yet.

Because of Thom Hartmann, I got to publish my stuff and have a sizeable and a critical audience.

Thanks, Thom! :woohoo:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. John Adams was teh suX0r.

For reals.

[RiverStone]

47. One of the best imitations of a freeper post...

I have seen for a while.

It's one thing to disagree with a steady voice from liberal talk radio...but telling Thom to shut the fuck up?

Your right to say; though it sure seems like your reacting to more than what he said.

BTW, I think Thom rocks!!!

[MzNov]

48. OK, who called this RW meeting?

Slow news day???

:grr:

[EFerrari]

49. Think of it as an occassion to thank Thom. n/t

[MzNov]

53. Thanks Thom Hartmann!!

:hi: You make us think! We forgive you for having facists on your show because you make them all look like the fraudulent specimens that they are.

:-) :bounce:

[BigD_95]

50. Actually I look forward to his show

I always been a fan of Thom Hartmann. Actually I look forward to his show

[EFerrari]

51. Welcome to DU, BigD_95

:)

[Marr]

54. Are you overreacting to appear intelligent?

I can't imagine why anyone would get worked up about John Adams unless they just wanted to mention they'd read a book about John Adams.

Here's your cookie.