To be honest: I give Bush mercy for being an unintelligent person.

[Smith_3]

Yeah really. Maybe I'm naive but I don't believe that George W. Bush is a bad man. I think he is a rather unintelligent really simple guy. I think he gets told what to do, in fact, I think he as always been surrounded by people telling him what to do. I think that 9/11 picture really shows him in true character. He's a small simple man, who should be working as a sales representative or something similar. Sometimes I even feel sorry for the old Chimpy.

[tekisui]

1. He is, most certainly, a bad man.

A very bad man, and a very bad President.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

58. Whatever "mercy" he is capable of giving, he should receive, TEN-FOLD. nt

[bryant69]

2. I don't know - it's a tempting picture

But if a guy fucked up his life as much as Bush did and wasn't George W. Bush he wouldn't be president. The guy failed constantly at everything he did and yet his daddies friends were there to rescue him.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Hydra]

3. Heh

0-2

He is an evil little snot- the only reason he let's Cheney and his handlers do it for him is because he's lazy. He's not stupid either- neither are his cronies.

He's gotten so much mileage out of the stupid act...maybe I should try it.

[driver8]

4. He's a selfish, spoiled asshole.

Fuck him.

He ran and hid on 9/11, he partied while New Orleans was drowning, and he was AWOL from the Air National Guard. His illegal war has cost and ruined thousands of lives but that doesn't matter because his friends are getting richer. Being "unintelligent" is no excuse...he is an evil, greedy, arrogant piece of shit.

[zorahopkins]

5. Bush is Evil.

Bush is evil - pure evil.

Evil men invade other countries.

Evil men send the sons and daughters of other men and women to be killed in senseless wars.

I have NO sympathy for Bush.

Bush is pure evil.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. Not me. He's not stupid. But he is a liar, a moral and physical coward, and has more innocent blood

on his hands than just about anybody.

[Neecy]

8. that pretty much sums it up

[Richard Steele]

7. He's a small, simple man... who giggles when he thinks about the people he's killed.

DUMB does not preclude EVIL.

[Smith_3]

10. Not so sure about that. I think America wanted blood after 9/11...

To blame it all on the leader afterwards is soo Leni Riefenstahl, IMO

[Virginia Dare]

15. Who do you blame it on then?

if Al Gore had been President on 9/11/01 do you think the repubes would have given him a pass? The fact is that Bush and Condi both ignored the NIE which stated BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US. Was that by design or ignorance? Or maybe both?

[Smith_3]

24. That I don't know.

Wether they let it happen or simply were do dumb to stop it I don't know. All I am saying, is that there was ALOT of warmongering after 9/11 among the common people.

[Virginia Dare]

26. Perhaps that wouldn't have been had we been told the truth..

we still haven't been told the truth.

[Smith_3]

32. I know alot of people first hand that would rather hear a lie that justified bombing someone

than the truth.

[Virginia Dare]

40. Wow, sad..

I'm glad I don't hang out with the same people you do.

[Smith_3]

42. Better be glad you don't live in the same state as i did....

[uppityperson]

54. What state is that? Tell us something about yourself since you've no profile

[Richard Steele]

28. No, America wanted JUSTICE, but we got fascism and the blood of a million innocents on our hands.

DIFFERENT.

[Smith_3]

31. Alot of people who want justice end up getting vengance.

Its a thin line.

[Richard Steele]

38. That "thin line" is in the OTHER direction, Smith. We got neither. Get a clue.

[Smith_3]

41. I mean vengance in an active sense.

Alot of people who want to deliver justice overshoot.

[Richard Steele]

44. Your obtuseness becomes tiresome. I'll bid you "good day" now.

Good day.

[uppityperson]

55. To get justice for attacks by 1 group, you attack an unrelated country?

That is no thin line.

[elizfeelinggreat]

34. huh?

You don't have to blame the leaders for what was a sad but believable reaction (wanting to go after the bad guys) but you can certainly blame the leader(s) for going to war with a country that was no threat to us and had nothing to do with 9/11.

[Richard Steele]

39. Exactly. nm

[niyad]

9. NOBODY could do what he has done to the people of this country, and the rest of the world, for

the past 7 years, and NOT be an evil, twisted, sick soul. all you have to do is watch the glee with which he speaks of destruction, death and violence.

giving this twisted, sick, evil soul the benefit of the doubt doesn't change the facts.

a person who was just unintelligent, would still have an element of compassion, which this creature most clearly does not.

[Smith_3]

11. America wanted blood after 9/11. He did the peoples bidding. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

13. BULLSHIT!

he manipulated intelligence and LIED to the people. Do you think we would be in Iraq now if Bush hadn't LIED?

[Smith_3]

18. Maybe we would. Remember what the times were like.

All the mouth-foaming and military-volanteering. If he weren't the leader, it would have been somebody else. The American public wanted to go to war with someone. I think WMDS were a good enough excuse for most, even if it wasn't true. Not for all, but for very many I think.

[Virginia Dare]

23. This is what you get when you have a warmongering idiot..

in the White House instead of a thoughtful intelligent diplomat. George Bush squandered every bit of good will that was extended to the U.S. after 9/11. EVERY BIT. Our only friends left are the ones we can bribe enough to stay with us.

[Individualist]

35. You're naive.

You need to learn about PNAC. The wars were planned well before the chimperor's selection.

[uppityperson]

53. WMDs were a good excuse to attack a country that had nothing to do with 911 attacks?

He manipulated intelligence and LIED to the people. Did YOU know the 911 attacks had NOTHING to do with Iraq?

[niyad]

16. no, he did the bidding of pnac and the rest of the neocons,w ho had been

planning their wars since 1992. the american people were, in essence, brainwashed by a complicit media, and the lying of the maladministration.

the voices of those who did NOT want blood were silenced or ignored.

HE and his cohorts created this situation, ran with it, and WE have to deal with the consequences, possibly for the next century.

[driver8]

17. What?!

That is one of the most fucked up things I have ever heard.

Hey -- I think they're missing you over in Freeperville!

[Smith_3]

20. I'm not saying that I wanted blood. However I heard alot of people who did.

The military recruiting booths were filled to the top at the time. I for one, didn't sign up and never intended to.

[Virginia Dare]

25. That had much to do with the propaganda and fear..

that was being spread at the time. It was cultivated. Many of those people are dead now, and sadly they died for something which was based on a lie. That lies squarely at George Bush's feet.

[Binka]

52. No Shit! This Thread Needs To Get Tossed In The Shitter

Bush is a fuckwittage malignant narcissistic fuctkard, and this dude Smith with the missing profile and fucked up logic isn't far behind.

[tekisui]

22. you're wrong. big time.

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The invasion was a lie, war crime, and was sold to the American people through fear.

Most Americans reluctantly accepted a retaliation in Afghanistan. Chimpy ignored the warnings of 9/11 and then used them to advance his neo-con agenda.


It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the American people's bidding.

You are sadly misinformed.

[Virginia Dare]

12. No sympathy here for him..

I'll agree that he's simple and stupid. "Incurious" as I've heard him so often described. His reaction on 9/11 WAS very telling, but I have slightly different take on it than you. I won't get into it here. A better example of what a low down shitscum person he is would be how he acted as Katrina bore down on the Gulf:

[Smith_3]

14. Yup. He didn't do a whole lot for the people of New Orleans.

But still: Remember all that mouth-foaming and military-volanteering that was going on post 9/11? The leader at that time is hardly to blame for the wars that followed. America wanted a war and America got a war.

[Virginia Dare]

19. He is 100% to blame for the wars that followed..

we could have taken an elite strike force into Afghanistan and wiped out the Taliban, we could have then worked with the Pakistanis to get their house in order. As a result of the screw-ups by this administration, the Taliban is making a come-back, and A.Q. has a haven in Iraq and Pakistan.

[driver8]

21. No offense, Smith...but you are clueless.

The people of this country didn't want a war -- a small group of neocon assholes wanted a war and sold it to the people of this country. Now they and their war monger buddies are getting rich and the people of our country are getting fucked.

[Smith_3]

27. My point is that the people bought it.

I still remember the days. In my own surrounding all pacifist voices got shouted to the ground.

[uppityperson]

57. People bought the propaganda based on lies and fear, true.

And where did that propaganda, those lies and fears originate? Perhaps, um, the administration?

[tekisui]

29. America didn't want war.

Quit repeating it. Bush and the neo-cons wanted war.

You are WRONG. And, I am beginning to think intentionally so.

[Kashka-Kat]

30. Yknow... we really are lucky that he was so incompetent. A competent facist, now that wouldve been

MUCH worse........... Can't say I feel all that sorry for him though.

[Diclotican]

33. Smith_3

Smith_3

I don't know if Mr Bush are a evil man, But the man is surtenly a stupid man... And he have the power to a lot of nuclear weapon, and surtenly also the Will to use it..

This is a man who have flunked everything he has touched, and now he is touching a whole country.. Even the old Roman Emperor Nero was not that stupid, and mad.. And he had maybe some issues that in the days was not possible to give help... Today we can give "mad people" the need they need.. And mr Bush should not have been in the White House, but rather in some medical institution where he can be given the help he crucially need..

PS
I remember the picture wherry wel... How "cold" he was, when the news was coming in, that US was under some attack... If I was the president, and was given a message like that, I would surtenly have excused myself from the school rom... And maybe craped my pants when out of the rom...:think: But I would NOT have been sitting there..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language

[OwnedByFerrets]

36. And what will you give the over 1 million ppl who have died in

Iraq because of this fucking asshole's war???????????? Go somewhere else with your fucking sympathy for a damned warmonger and war criminal.

[Smith_3]

37. Advocatus diaboli is the term, I think. Someone has to fill the slot. n/t

[karlrschneider]

45. I must admit you do it very convincingly.

...

[Labors of Hercules]

48. now now... you must not be so earnest if you wish to assume this position.

Sadly, in your responses there is too little of the objectivity resplendent in the role of "beatifier"...

[dkofos]

43. WAR CRIMINALS DON'T DESERVE MERCY!!

[Disturbed]

46. "The American public wanted to go to war with someone."

Yes, America got a war. The war in Afghanistan is still going on. Most Americans were supportive of that war against the Taliban & AQ. Since not many US Troops get killed there, Afghanistan does not get much coverage.

Maybe if the Illegal Invasion of Iraq had not taken place & more effort had been made to subdue
Afghanistan the outcome might have been different than is has been so far.

[TwilightGardener]

47. I see him as having more of an untreated personality disorder, combined with average intelligence.

[SammyWinstonJack]

49. He most certainly is a bad man. He is just plain mean, mean-spirited.

He gets told what too do?

What kind of an excuse is that?

If he can't handle the job that he didn't have a problem stealing, not once but twice, he should resign.

He is doing what he was selected too do, which is to rob this Country blind of both our treasury and our civil liberties.

And I don't feel sorry for him.

I'll reserve that emotion for those that he has destroyed, the hundreds of thousands.

[baby_mouse]

50. Some stupidity can't be helped. His is wilful.

He ignores the truth.

[spanone]

51. you are extremely naive...mr. bu$h* is a calculating, intelligent, partisan, corrupt politician.

[baby_mouse]

56. ... yes. but also stupid.

that wilfully ignorant sort of stupidity that plagues his type of person. The stupidity that brooks no criticism...

[mitchum]

62. Exactly...the stupid (and bush is that) can still be very cunning

[mitchum]

59. He IS a half-assed sociopath....indeed stupid, but still evil

[lonestarnot]

60. I think you need to examine or re-examine your own screws.

:toast:

[Ikonoklast]

61. Bush Apologist

Nice try, peddle it elsewhere.


I ain't buyin' what you're sellin'.

[uppityperson]

63. To be honest: I give Smith_3 mercy for being an unintelligent person.

Naw, not really. I'm not naive and I don't believe that Smith_ is a naive man. I think he is a rather unintelligent really simple guy. I think he gets told what to do, in fact, I think he as always been surrounded by people telling him what to do. I think that 9/11 picture really shows him in true character. He's a small simple man, who should be working as a sales representative or something similar. Sometimes I even feel sorry for the old Smith_3.

[pinto]

64. Bush is a sociopath. Agree, he's easily manipulated, if he feels it meets his needs.

And societal conflict seems to be his and his compadres' forte, served with a front man aw shucks shit eatin' grin.

I've never bought it.

[GrayGoo]

65. No mercy forever!

Look at what he's done!

[lutefisk]

66. What, no "recommend" votes for this thread?

I can't believe I read all the way through this mind-numbingly desperate attempt by "smith" to defend a not very well thought out original post. I think we should show mercy and let this "discussion" fade away.................:boring:

edit: OK, I'll bite - Bush really is a bad man and CNN and the rest of the war-criminal enabling corporate media just made you think the "people" wanted blood after the horrible crime that took place on Sept. 11, 2001.

[WinkyDink]

67. Yes, you are decidedly naive. Have you forgotten his mocking of Carla Faye Tucker?

How about his refusal to read the PDB titled "BinLaden Determined to Strike the U.S."?
How about the Gold Star mother he told not "to sell the medal on e-Bay"?
How about his megaphone grand-standing on the very ashes of the WTC victims?
How about his Correspondents' Dinner joking about finding WMD's?
How about his cowardly and repulsive "Bring'em on!"?
How about "Heckuva job, Brownie"?
How about his INSULTING recommendation of the hack Harriet Miers to the SUPREME COURT?

How about HIS CURRENT REFUSAL TO ACCEPT THE NIE REPORT ON IRAN??

On second thought, "naive" will not do.