Hell HAS frozen over

[BlackVelvet04]

Yes, hell has officially frozen over. My brother-in-law who as little as a year ago was supporting bush has decided he is voting for................wait for it............

HILLARY CLINTON. His wife, my sister, has decided to do the same.

I need a drink.

[fascisthunter]

1. Makes Sense to Me (nt)

[Bicoastal]

2. See, I think its folly to assume that ONLY Obama is attracting ex-GOP converts...

...but I won't hold it against any of them.

[mnhtnbb]

3. Hey, the Republicans are saying that Hillary will ensure Bush's legacy.

What's so strange? Bill has been mingling with Poppy. It's all one big happy family.

[JuniperLea]

4. My repub father and boss are voting Clinton too!

I'm voting Edwards... just decided a little while ago. I'm very, very pleased these two are voting Clinton though! Fine with me!!!

[BlackVelvet04]

5. My former republican father

is voting Barak or Edwards and my mom for any of the 3 dem candidates.

[JuniperLea]

9. I'm always happy to hear about more Repubs coming into the light!

Must bring a tear to your eye:)

[mike_c]

6. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that Bush isn't running...

...and HRC is the next best neocon! :rofl:

[Perry Logan]

7. There's nothing like taking a good look at Hillary's critics to convert you to Hillary.

[Richard Steele]

13. Because Lord knows that looking at her words and deeds won't do it.

:rofl:

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. ...

:evilgrin:

[ursi]

8. I'm just not seeing the attraction to Hillary. Why can't America come up with fresh candidates

from other families besides Bush and Clinton families? Our White House has become a revolving door for political dynasties. We might as well go back to being under the rule of a King and a Queen.

[Disturbed]

10. People say all kinds of things but when they get into the

voting booth, who knows what they will actually do?

[BlackVelvet04]

12. My sister has no reason to lie to me.... n/t

[BlackVelvet04]

11. I agree to a point

but I'm not going to discourage them. They believe the country is in such bad shape that we need a president with lots of experience and they think that's HIllary. They now remember Bill Clinton's presidency with fondness because of how much better off the country was.

[KansDem]

14. Here...

...mind if I join you?

[BlackVelvet04]

27. thanks.....

and be my guest!

[KansDem]

45. oops...considering your DU name...

I should have offered this...



Please excuse my faux pas.

[billbuckhead]

15. I personally know a dozen Republicans who want to vote for Hillary

and none want Obama. "It's the economy stupid".

[Kucinich4America]

16. Republicans voting for a Republican

Don't see much to shock me there.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

19. Oh Yay. Another Wildly Ignorant Assertion That Hillary Is Republican.

Statements like that are so limited in their mentality.

[Kucinich4America]

20. If it talks like a 'Puke and it votes like a 'Puke

chances are it ain't a duck.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. If It Talks Like A Puke And Votes Like A Puke, Then Chances Are It Ain't Hillary.

That's why your statement reeks of ignorance and limited mentality, with all due respect.

[uppityperson]

31. ohhhhhh

what happened to the warm fuzzy jeremy? You doing ok or just snarly today? Hope ok.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. I'm Still Warm And Fuzzy, I Swear!

But I'm starting to feel a little more comfortable being snarky again.

I respect all our Dem candidates and though she ain't perfect, and though I know some hate her, I still know based on actual facts and voting history that the last thing Hillary is would be a republican. I'm tired of seeing the wild slander being thrown around at our Dem candidates, whether it be towards Obama, Edwards or Hillary. It's just gotten out of hand.

But I'm doin ok. I know I'm being a bit snarky and blunt again, but I'm trying to limit it to only where I feel it necessary. I'm hoping I don't take it too far, and am trying to have some self control. But I'm sure at times I'll piss some off, but just know I am at the core warm and fuzzy, and will still do anything for any of ya. I just simply need to start forcing myself to do 'normal' things again, since I was starting to become too consumed by reality. I thought getting back into a somewhat swing of things here would do a lot towards distracting myself as well as making me feel even remotely 'normal' again.

[uppityperson]

38. Try GDP if you want to really get into snarkiness.

There is all sorts of stuff going on in there. Sometimes we don't need to be though, am finding am closing vs posting often. It just isn't worth it. I don't need to be focusing on negativities, there is enough of it already. "normal" has changed. And peace.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

39. If Only You Knew How Many Threads I 'Close' Vs Post. I Totally Hear Ya.

But there's a part of me that gets quite irked to see a feel good thread like this, only to have someone chime in with the unnecessary ignorance that Hillary is a republican. It's just so friggin lame and old already.

But believe me, there are about 100 comments per day that I would've NORMALLY posted, that I'm simply controlling myself from doing any more. Sometimes I still find the need here and there, but overall I've all sorts of lost the desire to cause as much trouble as I once did. But I still gotta dabble a little, ya know? :)

[uppityperson]

42. Ah, that issue.

It all depends on what decade you define Republican and Democrat from. Looking back to when I was a child (older than you), I'd say she would fit in with the republicans of old. However, the whole kid and kaboodle has skewed rightward, so now I'd call her centrist dem, or actually more rightish dem. So, if one were to resist change of party makeup, there you go. I see both the dem and repub parties changing in the next bit again. Perhaps splitting off the fundamentalist extreme right into their faux-compassion-conserative-christian-fundamentalistismness (faux since I consider them none of those descriptions beyond words are cheap), and the left off into the Green party type or some such (note to other reading this, not bashing Green party, just saying like or some such to be further left than dems are now).

There are plenty of unfine folks causing enough trouble, I'm looking forward to after the election fall out to be able to do so again also. Off to watch bad movies. I am liking DU for the news, but am tired of wading through all the bullshit. Sort of like Teri Schiavo OMGness days but on and on and on and on and on.

[BlackVelvet04]

43. Thank you.....

I don't know why somebody always want to put the damper on a feel good thread.

[Sugar Smack]

56. Well, good to see you again!

:D :hi:

[LordJFT]

36. true but so are statements that she's more progressive than Obama

[LostinVA]

47. I stand by my statement that her voting record is

Because it is.

[BlackVelvet04]

28. It would be really nice if you

wouldn't piss on the parade.

[Auntie Bush]

33. Didn't Obama win Iowa with a lot of Rethug help? n/t

[mondo joe]

51. You mean Republicans voting for a nominee of the Democratic Party.

You don't decide who Democrats choose to represent us. Democrats do.

[Kucinich4America]

53. Are you calling me a Republican??

I believe that's a violation of DU Rules

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground.

[mondo joe]

54. No. If I were calling you a Republican would have simple said it. What I did say was that YOU

don't get to choose who represents Democrats. Democrats do. You know, plural, with an S at the end.

You don't get to choose. No ONE person does, and no little bunch of fans does. It's a decision made by Democrats across the country.

So it doesn't much matter if YOU think our candidate is a Republican - what matters is what WE think.

[Kucinich4America]

59. Hillary is not "our candidate" Hopefully she never will be

And if she doesn't want to be thought of as a Republican, maybe she shouldn't act like one?

And which Democrats are choosing, incidentally? Two small, decidedly UN-liberal states?? Chuck Todd?? The DLC?? Where do the Democrats come in?

[mondo joe]

60. She's one of OUR nominees, she was the CANDIDATE of the DEMOCRATS of NY State,

and she could be OUR CANDIDATE.

You can think whatever the fuck you want, but you're not the Democratic party.

[LanternWaste]

52. Democrats trashing Democrats.

Democrats trashing Democrats.

Don't see much to shock me there, either...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T BRING THEM HERE!!!!!! WE DON'T WANT THEM CHANGING THEIR MINDS!!!

:rofl:

[BlackVelvet04]

30. LOL.....ain't that the truth...

they'd probably end of up voting for none of the above.

[LSK]

48. LOVE THAT YOU ARE BACK HERE OMC!!!

:D

[VotesForWomen]

22. i think that a lot of people don't hate her quite as much as they say they do. unfortunately

the repukes made it cool (and obligatory) to hate hillary clinton through non-stop bashing over the last 15+ years.

[RiverStone]

23. my girlfriend's life long puke sister and husband...

Who live in a very red county, who are fundamental Christains, who NEVER have voted BLUE before (both in their mid 30's) have decided to vote for OBAMA.

They said they are sick of Shrub's war and that Obama inspires a sense that he can bring people together.

Just FYI.

[damntexdem]

24. That global climate change is really accelerating.

If it keeps up, maybe they'll move on from HRC to John Edwards.

[Seen the light]

25. Whatever it takes to keep the Bush/Clinton dynasties going!

Yay! Screw you people that want other people in the White House!

[Rockholm]

26. Yeah, right.

[Lou Syffire]

29. Good news- fits my business plan for 08 to a "T"

Go Hillary
War is GOOD for business

[conscious evolution]

37. Good for business?

Are you in the tombstone business?
Or is it the pizza business?

[LostinVA]

50. Scat -- go play somewhere else

[Auntie Bush]

32. You have some really smart family members who are capable

of sifting through the bullshit around here.

[GrayGoo]

34. Damn

I guess it's not too far a jump...

Ba-hey!

[alfredo]

40. Help them as they come to the light.

[Sydnie]

41. Well, that explains global warming, doesn't it?

:rofl:

[MasonJar]

44. Please stop withthe PUGlite accusations. Obama is right of Clinton.

[LostinVA]

46. My father is, too -- lifelong Republican

He also likes John Edwrads and Biden.

*THUD*

[lame54]

49. Voting Edwards would be too cold turkey for him

[leftofthedial]

55. of all the candidates,

she's closest to bush

[lpbk2713]

57. He must have stopped listening to the RW Radio Hatemongers.

They spew hate about HRC non-stop. According to them she is responsible for everything

from the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

[OhioChick]

58. Probably Because She is the Most Like Jr. n/t