No Democrat will get us out of Iraq...

[kentuck]

Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Edwards. Because today, the Bush Administration is discussing the idea of making a deal with the present Iraqi "government" to keep troops in Iraq indefinitely, but mostly stationed at their own bases and not interferring with Iraqi security or governing. There is little hope that the Democrats will stop this "deal" and the next President will be stuck with Bush's bastard war.

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. Kucinich would.

Demand Kucinich.

[nonconformist]

8. Dennis dropped out of the race today.

Sorry. :(

[Fire Walk With Me]

13. And as such, so did Democracy as we know it.

On CNN.com, there are two Republican candidates each with 1 point, less than Dennis. Go figure.

There are now no candidates remaining, in either party, who will stop the Iraqi invasion and the reckless debting and spending involved, among other things. :shrug:

[OneBlueSky]

21. not even Kucinich could get us out of Iraq . . . we're in too deeply . . .

Iraq still sits on an ocean of oil, and we're constructing the world's largest embassy to serve as our headquarters in the region . . . neither the Democrats nor the Republicans in Congress have the guts, the ethics, the morals, or the respect for the law necessary to end the occupation . . . we bought it (or, more accurately, stole it), and we own it . . .

[TwilightGardener]

2. I'ts not binding. Don't worry about it.

[dysfunctional press]

6. and the next president will still "honor" it.

just watch.

[old guy]

7. Everything * says is binding! Just ask him.

[tekisui]

3. We have those who want to lead.

You can only lead in the present. Nothing ever happens in the future.

Where are the leaders?

[dysfunctional press]

4. the next president could cancel or pull out of any deal made by bush

but they won't.

just watch.

[nonconformist]

5. I seem to recall Bush reneging on treaties (Kyoto)

Why can't we do the same?

[Disturbed]

10. The US Ocupation of Iraq will continue.

The US Troop level will be dropped down to around 100K but no Dem Pres.
will withdraw all the Troops or most of the Merc Orgs in Iraq.
The reasons are not hard to figure out.

[NoPasaran]

16. The Senate never actually approved Kyoto

A better example of Bush ignoring treaties is the decision that the Geneva Conventions were "quaint".

[kentuck]

9. It's the Congress, people.

They are not on our side.

[genie_weenie]

11. The Surge has accomplished the following

by throwing millions of dollars at the Anbar Sheihks an Sadr Bush bought himself out of trouble.

THEN:
Violence was spiraling out of control, Americans were questioning the TRILLIONS going to the Military Industrial Complex, people finally began to be upset over the senseless loss of Iraqi and American life.

NOW: Warmongers have declared the Surge a complete success, the media doesn't cover the American dead or the dozens of Iraqis who die daily, and Bush ahs insured he will not have to pull troops out of Iraq. The Next President is being told subtely and directly if he (or she) attempts to pull out the ATTACK of "YOU lost Iraq" will be launched until it becomes their only legacy and they are remembered in History Indoctrination classes as the loser president.

So yes you are correct no Dem (besides Dennis) is going to get us out, and he isn't running...

[Johonny]

12. Something tells me

When the next president is trying to balance the books the Bush Iraq war budget is going to look like a very expendable part of the budget.

[ileus]

14. IE...Korea, Germany ect...

It's a good thing IMHO it helps us keep equipment and military personnel at the ready in troublesome parts of the world. Hopefully it's not a pipe dream to think "someday" Iraq bases will be like those in Korea, Germany, and so many other countries around the world.

[Muttocracy]

15. Biden letter to Bush on Iraq

http://www.biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=291041&

on war powers, congressional oversight, hearings to come.

[Disturbed]

17. Bushco lied to Illegaly Invade Iraq & they will lie to keep

the US Occupation in place.

[Muttocracy]

18. yeah, maybe it can help stall things or embarrass GOP so they lose

general election but who knows.

And Bush & Cheney and friends will be laughing all the way to the bank for years to come (contracts and whatnot).

[Scriptor Ignotus]

19. if we have troops in Iraq training Iraqis soldiers

or doing other logistical or strategic functions, I'm not really opposed to that. But we should not be fighting this war, house to house anymore. That's what we need to stop at all costs.

[OneBlueSky]

20. no kidding . . . they are, after all, constructing the world's largest embassy . . .

and using slave labor to do it . . . further, Iraq still sits on an ocean of oil . . . and, both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress have no guts, no ethics, no morality, and no respect for the Constitution or for U.S or international law . . . . . .

it all adds up to an indefinite stay in Iraq costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars what should be going to re-building our infrastructure, re-building our manufacturing base, creating good jobs, protecting the environment, ending poverty, developing new energy sources, improving education, and providing healtcare for all, among other things . . .

even Kucinich couldn't have ended the occupation of Iraq . . . we bought it, we own it, and we're going to keep it . . . end of story . . .