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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 AM
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Laughing that just a short time ago, DU had quite a few Lieberman defenders...
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 AM by trumad
I'm guessing they've all gone to their hidey holes.....
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:33 AM
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1. A short time ago he was a Democrat.
:hi:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:56 AM
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2. Uh, no. In my view, he stopped being a Democrat in 1999.
That's when he sabotaged Gore's presidential hopes.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 PM
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6. I agree with you on that, but he *was* still registered as a Democrat. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:57 AM
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3. Mark Penn and Mandy Grunwald were behind him and THEY'RE good Dems aren't they?
DEFINITELY SARCASTIC.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:13 PM
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4. I've given up on Lieberman. You've convinced me.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:16 PM
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5. Didn't you vote for him in 2000?
Still laughing?

Don
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:07 PM
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50. Hell, I voted for him and Gore seven years ago.
And I am not ashamed of it.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:28 PM
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7. he moved progressively right
In my opinion.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 PM
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11. He never was left. When first elected, he ran to the right of Weicker, the Republican. (NT)
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:37 PM
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12. Well perceptions differ.
When he started attacking his own party for not supporting President Bush - I mean a little of that I could deal with. But after a while he just went further than I could countenance.

But I'm a moderate Dem - I'm further right than seemingly 3/4 of this board. That doesn't make me a republican or a conservative.

Bryant
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:31 PM
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40. There's an oxymoron if ever I saw one! n/m
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:32 PM by IntravenousDemilo
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 PM
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41. He moved right off into the deep end
He's gone completely nuts. Seriously. I think he needs to be institutionalized.

Not that I ever liked him. Where's Lowell Weicker when we need him, lol?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 PM
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8. No-they've morphed into Obamanuts. nt
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:30 PM
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9. Wrong
I'm an Obama supporter, and i defy you to find one post in my nearly 20,000 that ever defended anything Lieberman ever did, said, or stood for.
The Professor
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 PM
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14. You Obamanuts have drunk so much Kool Aid it ain't funny.
Denial will bite you in the a$$ one of these days, no doubt about it.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 PM
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17. Now You've Been Wrong Twice
But, i'm sure you're used to being wrong. Probably happens an awfully lot of the time.
The Professor
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:48 PM
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19. And Also!
Prove it. I'm sick to death of the sanctimony that folks like you have. I've been paying attention to governance and politics for almost 40 years. I don't have to drink any kool-aid to find someone i think is the best choice.

Edwards was my first choice. He dropped out. Now, i'm backing Obama.

If you think i've drunk the kool-aid. Prove it. Find one post anywhere here that indicates that i follow a politician for no good reason than blind loyalty. Find one post that indicates that i am supportive of corporatism.

I'm challenging you. Brave enough to take up the challenge? I doubt it.
The Professor
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:28 PM
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21. You are supporting a DINO corporatist. How much more proof does anyone need? nt
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:48 PM
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23. Prove It
You're saying it is supposed to be proof. You've got nothing. You know it. Now i know it.

Just as i suspected. You're a coward and you know nothing.

Figures.
The Professor
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:59 PM
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28. How many MILLIONS did Obama take from corporations? How much proof do you need that they OWN him?!
The name calling PROVES you've gone round the bend. It's also against DU rules to name call.

You need to lay off the Kool Aid.

Oh and by the way, your man Obama is gonna keep the U.S. in ENDLESS WARS. Guess that doesn't matter to you. Maybe it will when your son or nephew or grandson gets drafted in the near future!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4598201

:puke:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:04 PM
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32. You're Useless
How much many have ALL of them taken from any corporation? Not too bright, are you?

And, please provide the evidence that Obama is for the war. Any piece of evidence will do.

But, if you want to keep spewing this nonsense that has no basis in fact. Go ahead. I will no longer reply to your cowardly lies.
The Professor
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:12 PM
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35. Edwards took NO money, you should know that if you really were an Edwards supporter
which I doubt.

Most real Edwards supporters won't support sell outs like Obama.

You should know that too.

BUT

Stupid is as stupid does-YOU are proof of that.

AND

What the fuck is up with all the name calling? I must have hit a nerve with you.

The TRUTH hurts doesn't it?! :rofl:

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:17 PM
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36. Nope. The Truth Doesn't Hurt
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:19 PM by ProfessorGAC
If you told any so far, i meant have a frame of reference. Edwards did take money from corporations. You are a liar. He took money from ours.

He also took money from banks and from major law firms, which are bigger than most of the corporations against which you're railing.

If you are brave enough (and i know you're not), look through the archives. I was clearly and "Edwards first" guy and made many posts to that effect.

So what you believe is irrelevant. And, by the way: I'm name calling? You must be kidding. You started this whole thing with the "kool-aid" comment. To any thinking person that might disagree with you, that is a profound insult.

IOW: I could only support Obama if i'm a starry-eyed kool-aid drinker. Yes. That's the nerve you hit genius. I'm smarter than you. I'm more educated than you. And i'm not a starry-eyed kool-aid drinker. You start with that insult, and you better be prepared to defend yourself. You have yet to provide any proof. Just baseless assertions and empty insults.

If you ever actually get around to providing any actual proof, then we can talk. But, in the meantime, you're just acting like a 15 year old on mommy's computer. If you can take it, maybe you shouldn't try to play with the adults.


The Professor
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:55 PM
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24. Two substanceless posts in a row
all designed to denigrate other DUers and paint them with the smear of Leiberman.

Congrats, you win a griefer award.

Try using that Golden rule you name yourself after.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:57 PM
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26. Well Done
That poster has niente! I know it. You know it. He knows it. Just a hit and run punk.
The Professor
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:03 PM
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30. Take it to GD-P or STFU.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:20 PM
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37. What Is With This Guy?
What a piece of work. Gets caught making stuff up and then calls me stupid when he repeats the lie. Insults me and then complains about being insulted.
The Professor
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:52 PM
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46. Another griefer
I have this one on ignore. Some people make serial postings that are a waste of bandwidth. No one comes here to talk to broken records.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM
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42. Nice try
Not buying that.

In fact, you'll probably find more of the Clinton people were Lieberman supporters.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM
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43. Dupe
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM by JerseygirlCT
Not buying that.

In fact, you'll probably find more of the Clinton people were Lieberman supporters.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 PM
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10. "You just don't like him because he's Jewish." (former DUer) ... a rather infamous line
:shrug: Good ol' Carlos.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:38 PM
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13. There are some that don't like him for that reason.
Now, whether they admit to it or not is a whole different ball of wax.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:43 PM
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18. It wasn't just Carlos
I used to defend him to the bone. I admit it. I am a dummy.

Don
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:56 PM
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25. That same poster liked to use the word "uppity" a lot.
Specifically, he said it about Cynthia McKinney.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:06 PM
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33. Well, I'll just say he had "issues."
:rofl:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM
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15. I remember being called a freeper back when he
was running with Al Gore because I criticized him for his unDemocratic stances on various insues. I was thoroughly disgusted about his debate with Dick Cheney where they stopped short of tongue kissing each other. Of course I had to STFU to keep from being alerted on and possibly tombstoned because I could no longer ignore the red flags he was raising in my mind.

So all I have to say is: I TOLD YOU SO ALL YOU LIEBERMAN SUCK UPS!

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:12 PM
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20. Can't be this site all that was happening on back in 2000
It wasn't here until 2001.

Don

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:11 PM
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51. It was this site.
Sorry. I got my dates wrong. It was after the inauguration and around late summer that Joe started showing his true colors. The debate kept coming up in these posts because all his apologizers for all the RW enabling he was doing couldn't see what was in the future. I remember going back to the debate because I really felt, he helped Al Gore lose significant votes because of it, and what he said there pointed to what would become his future actions. I mean he and Cheney couldn't have been more agreeable to each other.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:56 PM
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16. What if Joe got the Dem nomination?
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 PM by tuckessee
Would we have to support him?

Would DU implode?

Oh well, luckily that's not likely to happen anymore but is important to remember that if the Party had had its way in 2000 Joe would've been the proverbial "heartbeat away" from the Oval Office.

edit to add "if" in title of post.

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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:45 PM
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22. I was under the impression they'd all gone extinct
Wiped out in the Lamont Plague of 2006.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:57 PM
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27. Remember, Bill Clinton said the '06 Senate race was "win-win".
Seems like most Lieberman defenders morphed into Shillbots.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:01 PM
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29. I've disliked him since I first heard of him in 1988!
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:02 PM by LeftishBrit
While I was avidly following the Dukakis campaign all the way from England (and being deeply disappointed when Daddy Bush won), I found out that there was this 'Democrat' called Lieberman, who was running to the *right* of his Republican opponent for the Senate, and was backed by the National Review. I was shocked and hoped he wouldn't win. At least, I was sure, we could never have such a person in England - the Tories seemed to be permanently in power, but if Labour ever did beat them, they would be well to the left of any Tory. Little did I know!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:30 PM
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39. I voted for Weicker that year and not Lieberman.
The only time I have voted "R", except for 2000, when I voted for Lieberman against Phil Giordano (google him to see why i didn't vote for giordano).

I couldn't stand Lieberman in 88, and also respected Weicker for his stand in the Watergate hearings.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:50 PM
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45. LOL - some choice, right?
Giordano. Another one of Waterbury's finest.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:03 PM
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47. Waterbury LOL. Remember Santopietro?
Got hauled away in leg irons. I knew someone who sold him drugs!



:rofl:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:06 PM
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49. For a while there, it was a competition
between Waterbury and Bridgeport. But I think Waterbury wins, hands down.

Bridgeport couldn't summon up anything more than your run of the mill political crooks. Waterbury managed to get *really* creative. And extra points for getting a governor in on the action!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:16 PM
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52. Can't top the governor, but bridgeport has had some interesting ones recently
also.

"Bordeaux Joe" Ganim. Met him when we lived in B-port, at a christmas festival in north b-port.

John Fabrizzi - and his coke issues.

:rofl:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:17 PM
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53. Didn't Fabrizzi admit his coke problem and stay on as mayor
for a while?

Yeah... What is it about CT?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:24 PM
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54. Yes he did. He finished his term last and was replace by
Bill Finch (state senator, i think).

The largest cities have been very poor, and have had mayors that have taken advantage of the situations in those cities (i.e. lax enforcement of ethics). Also, they tend to be one-party and controlled by a small group.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:50 PM
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44. I happily voted for Lowell Weicker in that race
And held my nose in subsequent races when all I had to choose from was a poorly qualified Republican or Joe. When Lamont offered a choice of a Democrat or Joe, I was awfully happy to take it.

He's been a sanctimonious twit for as long as I've known of him. Cannot stand him.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:04 PM
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31. Well, he just keeps getting worse and worse, doesn't he?
Shit, eight years ago he was our VP candidate. By 2004 he was Joementum. By 2006 he was Teh Eevilz. I don't know what the fuck he's supposed to be now. A characiture of himself, maybe.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:11 PM
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34. I don't remember that many
except for William Pitt, and I think that was just a throw-away line in the 2004 primaries when he said "all of our candidates are good, even Lieberman".

I think all the Lieberman defenders jumped the shark when he created his own third party. At least I am hearing the "Jaws" theme for some reason.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:24 PM
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38. Joe defended the ENRON crooks and I stopped liking Joe.
Lieberman also helped derail the Arthur Anderson investigation.

Something's rotten when corporations and PACs can control politicians on both sides of the aisle and grab the ones in the middle.

Did I mention money?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:05 PM
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48. um, a year ago posts dissing lieberman were deleted
:eyes:
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