Why did christian broadcaster (Paxson Com. aka ION) charter plane to Saudi's after 9/11

[Blue State Bandit]

and was John McCain on that plane the year before?

(NOT 9/11 CONSPIRACY)

As per the official 9/11 commission report, the Saudi's were give permission to leave the US on charter flights while the rest of US airspace was closed. The second plane, leaving Las Vegas carried a Saudi Prince and his party on September 20th 2001. This plane, has been identified in the report as Chartered Flight B 727-21, Tail Number N727PX. This plane is a private Boeing 727 owned by Paxson Communication a.k.a. ION Broadcasting.

Paxson Communications (as it was known during the time period concerned) owned this plane; a private corporate jet. Curiously, this tail (N-number) ID does not exist, and is available according to the FAA.

Chartered Flight B 727-21, Tail Number N727PX
On September 20, 2001, 18 members of the party of Saudi Prince Abdulmajeed Bin
Abdulaziz departed from Las Vegas, Nevada, for Stanstead, England.84 They
underwent the same vetting process as the 69 people on the flight the day before.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/911_TerrTrav_App.pdf

Now, the question is, was John McCain given access to this plane through his relationship (professional or otherwise) with lobbyist Vicki Iseman?

If anyone has a picture of John McCain debarking or embarking from a plane with this tail number (N727PX) please post.



This will torpedo McCain and propel the Democrat into office with the greatest of ease!

[libnnc]

1. kick

Why does John McCain have ties to a company that aided the escape of the Saudi Royal family after 9/11?

[libnnc]

2. come on peoples...this are hawt stuff

Why does uber-super-duper-patriot-type-hero-candidate John McCain have ties to a company that aided in the escape of the SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AFTER 9/11

AND HOW MANY OF THE HIJACKERS WERE SAUDIS AGAIN?

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. Thanks for connecting the dots. I'm getting so blurry-eyed with all

the evidence, sometimes it feels like I'm waiting for a blue dress with a stain on it.

[Subdivisions]

5. Intriguing indeed. You'll have to be patient though. This is the

sort of nugget that people want to have a closer look at for themselves before responding. Unfortunately, I don't have time right now or I would be launching my own full-blown investigation into this.

Hopefully you've lit a fire under a couple of our more prolific investigators here who will chime in as soon as they've rolled this ball around a bit. Octafish anyone?

[libnnc]

7. No Octafish necessary (though I love him dearly)

This is plain old PR nightmare stuff.


"But mommy, I thought John McCain would keep us safe from the terraissts -- why is he friends with the people who helped them???"

[riderinthestorm]

11. See I think GW Bush and GHW Bush and Cheney etc.

have desensitized the US public from being outraged at the close relationships the Rethugs have with the Saudis. People already KNOW about it and have clearly said, no big deal.

I think it's a big deal because it demonstrates that McCain is clearly co-opted into the players club - the movers and shakers that manipulate global events for their profit. This is right up Octafish's alley for sure.

I think the possibility of Paxson being a CIA front also has interesting possibilities which would be exposed by being the corporate jet of choice to ferry out the Saudis.

[riderinthestorm]

6. Outrage fatique

I recc'ed this thread but frankly, it just isn't news here on DU that upper echelon Rethugs knew about/colluded with 9-11 and global players like the Saudis, imho. McCain being tied into BFEE and Halliburton's plans doesn't really shock me. That uber "Christian" (sic) organizations like Paxson are also in on the whole manipulation scheme by corporate interests also meshes with Bush's Christianity meme. There have been other DU links outlining how mega-Christian dynastic empires like Billy Graham's are really just political front operations for the Rethugs.

This plane does tie all of that up into one neat little nugget that SHOULD get big time coverage but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Sigh. So while I appreciate more evidence of the disgusting corruption and treasonous actions by our elected officials and their corporate pimps, I guess today, I'm just beyond getting worked up.

Anyway, a kick for good measure.

[jaksavage]

3. Smells like

Another covert CIA vehicle.

[Subdivisions]

8. Ok, let's start with the plane itself and see where it leads...

Here is the plane. Let's see where it's been.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N727PX&distinct_entry=true

[Subdivisions]

10. Classic Designs of Tampa Bay, Inc.

Anyone familiar with this company? N727PX may have been previously registered to this company, according to Airliners.net.

In the most recent photos, the plane is completely white with no markings.

[Blue State Bandit]

13. This is from the blog of a 787 maiden flight passenger in Nov. 2005

James Wallace is the aerospace reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Boeing had hoped to get a Boeing Business Jet to take us to the various factories. None was available so the company chartered the 727-100 from a company called Bell-Air. The company is based in California, but their plane is usually kept at Paine Field in Everett. The jet, with its posh interior that includes a state room, bed and shower, is usually used to transport royalty from the Middle East around the United States when they visit this country. And transport them in privacy.

Our 727 was painted white, with the only identifying markings, N727PX, on one of the engines.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/aerospace/archives/104658.asp

Note: California based Bell-Air, owner.

[Blue State Bandit]

19. Bell-Air is a charter brokerage, not owner.

http://www.bellairaviation.com/

8018 E Santa Ana Canyon Rd Suite 100, Box 346 Anaheim Hills, CA 92808

Tel: [phone] Fax: [phone] [e-mail]

[CJCRANE]

16. White planes...

Well, the "black helicopter" crowd didn't get it quite right...

An unmarked white plane makes me wonder if it's a rendition flight.

[AndyTiedye]

18. A Completely Blank Plane is a Bit Unusual

If the plane is owned by a business, the business usually want's its name on the plane. It's free advertising.

That one doesn't even appear to have any numbers on it. No civilian entity could get away with that.

[Contrary1]

23. Color me surprised...

"We learned that the plane is registered in Clearwater, FL. to “CLASSIC DESIGNS OF TAMPA BAY INC,” owned by Lowell W. Paxson, one of the founders of Home Shopping Network, as well as the founder of Christian broadcast network PAX-TV..."

http://www.madcowprod.com/07312007.html

[formercia]

25. I'm familiar with that Airline.

:evilgrin:

[Occulus]

35. Nice research subthread suggestion.

I wish more people on DU would do what you did here. We need to learn to compartmentalize our efforts per thread, and do it more often.

Nice job. :thumbsup:

[Champion Jack]

9. KICKED for later

[lumpy]

24. Second the motion.

v

[Supersedeas]

12. Paxson is McCain's guy -- he's probably traveling on that same plane a number of times

[blondeatlast]

14. Like he did on Keating's as well. He only discovered later that it was a CLEAR ethics violation

and he didn't think Keating was trying to influence him. :eyes:

He really says that in his book.

He's too corrupt, hawkish, but most of all--too STUPID to be president.

[sarcasmo]

15. Kick and Booked.

[KharmaTrain]

17. The McCain/Iseman Connection Is Deep Indeed

I suspect a lot of digging is going on now on Ms. Iseman's client list and the favors they gained from both their association with Iseman and McCain's "muscle". Broadcasters were able to expand their monopolies, telcoms got special deal on public airwaves and billions were made...the McCain/Iseman Connection was well worth the cost of doing business...be it lending the corporate jet, throwing a massive junket or parties, doing favorable PR pieces or other "considerations" that kept McCain happy.

Hopefully we can also find out Ms. Iseman's ties to the K-Street project...and to other Congresscritters and Senators. If nothing else than to keep this money on the sideline this year as the various companies attempt to cover their asses.

[Elspeth]

20. I'd take you more seriously if you didn't use apostrophes for plurals

I'm intrigued by the story, but the damned apostrophe takes away from your credibility.

[libnnc]

21. I'm sure someone could say the same of you

Your use of profanity compromises your criticism of the grammar error in the OP.

:eyes:

Come on...please :thumbsdown:

[halobeam]

26. lol

:rofl: 's

[Blue State Bandit]

22. Thank you for trashing my piece with your red marker professer?

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It's the Apostrophe Conspiracy! To the dungon with me!

small note: it's called a spellcheck with no grammatic context!

[BeHereNow]

27. Oh come ON! You're shooting the messenger with that comment.

Let's focus on the STORY.

BHN

[Elspeth]

36. I am interested in the story. But apostrophes for plurals....

It's just a real problem for me.

[libnnc]

28. kick

[bluesmail]

29. K & R

bookmarked as well for later memory

[Echo In Light]

30. Interesting

[althecat]

31. Good question.... was he?

"Now, the question is, was John McCain given access to this plane through his relationship (professional or otherwise) with lobbyist Vicki Iseman?"

Is this a rhetorical question or one we do not know the answer to?

[Blue State Bandit]

34. I'm hoping to find indisputable proof.

Photographic would be preferred, documents would suffice.

[go west young man]

32. Thanks for the PDF link. Fascinating stuff.

Strange to read that the FBI actually conducted some interviews with the Saudis while sitting in cars. Sounds real in depth.:sarcasm:

[Blue State Bandit]

33. Kick.