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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:58 PM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: Spitzer's Selective Prosecution?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 03:59 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/03/spitzers-select.html

Spitzer's selective prosecution?

Update Below

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As I wrote yesterday, the question of how NY Governor Eliot Spitzer got pulled into a hooker investigation was something not entirely clear to me, nor was the fact that he was being wiretapped. In fact, initial reports seemed to suggest that an ongoing investigation of a prostitution ring caught Spitzer via wiretap:

"The wiretap captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a hotel room, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan. The person briefed on the case and the law enforcement official identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9."

Today we learn that a suspicious money transfer was reported by Spitzer's bank to the IRS and although Spitzer was only recently snagged in the investigation, the probe appears to have been going on for a year or so centering on suspicious transactions:

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If you go on to read the article you will find that the movement of money was OUT of Spitzer's accounts, not IN. How can this be suspected bribery? Apparently I am not the only one to try to make this circle fit into a square container:

"What's wrong with this version of the story? At least one thing seems to be glaringly wrong: This wasn't money moving INTO Spitzer's accounts, as it would be if the crimes involved were bribery, political corruption, or "something inappropriate involving campaign finance." This was cash moving OUT of Spitzer's accounts -- based on everything we've heard, from his personal accounts.

When somebody is moving large amounts of cash OUT of their personal accounts, I suppose it's possible that they're bribing somebody else or something, although if they're already a Governor, that doesn't seem very likely. What it suggests is precisely what happened here: That they're spending money on something for which they don't want a paper trail, perhaps because they don't want their spouse to know about it. And while some of those things may be illegal (prostitution, gambling, drugs), by no means all of them are (supporting a mistress, indulging a taste for clothes or wine that is more expensive than one's spouse thinks is appropriate, etc.).

The other thing that seems odd is that these were apparently CASH TRANSACTIONS, which are extraordinarily difficult to trace. And yet somehow, investigators supposedly knew that this money.

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How, pray tell, did the investigators know that without FIRST getting wiretap or other evidence showing where it was going? Presumably, the front businesses for this prostitution ring were combining Spitzer's cash with cash from other customers, so the amounts wouldn't even be the same. But even if the amounts WERE the same, with the large number of cash businesses in the New York area, it strains credulity to think they could match the amounts up and tell with any degree of certainty at all where his money was going."

Right. So what prompted this investigation into Spitzer, who appears to be the target, rather than the actual prostitution ring? Moreover - as pointed out above - what miracle led the investigators to track anything when they only seemed to have gotten a warrent to wiretap the prostitution ring well after the investigation began? Finally, I am curious how the press got wind of client #9's real identity so damn quickly and from whom?

How did Senator David Vitter (Republican) pay for his hookers in New Orleans and DC and why is he not being charged with anything? Why is no one demanding that he resign?

The timing of this whole thing bothers me as well. Consider that more and more evidence is amounting with regard to Karl Rove's involvement in Alabama and the imprisonment of Don Siegelman. The mainstream news actually began to finally pick this up. Now, as though by magic and even though this investigation has gone on for a year, Spitzer is suddenly indicted. I am not an attorney, but can someone explain to me what it is that I am missing here that would account for this strange series of events?

Ultimately, however, all of this doubt really does reflect the amount of damage the Bush administration has done to the Department of Justice. No matter what the allegations or even confessions are, I no longer have faith in our DOJ and I imagine I am not alone in this. That is the real scandal of all of this. Don't you think?

Update:

I realized reading over my posts that I sound like I am defending Spitzer. I am not and ONLY not because he prosecuted prostitution cases in the past and rather vocally too. That hypocrisy is why I am not remotely defending Spitzer's choice of entertainment. What I am defending, however, is the right of all Americans to feel that they are not political targets, investigated illegally until some wrong-doing is finally located that can be used against them. Nor should Americans feel that because they belong to a political party they are above the law.

Spitzer's sexual activities really only affect his relationship with his wife and family. They only affect us if those relationships are illegal, which in this case it appears to be so. But to target and investigate someone in hopes of finding something illegal is also illegal. I am not comfortable right now that Spitzer was legally investigated, despite the allegations of what he was actually caught doing and the fact that it was a criminal activity.

And I am certainly not comfortable with the hysteria over two consenting adults having sex, while no one cares that the Bush administration lied us into an illegal war in which nearly a million Iraqis have been killed and tens of thousands of Americans have either been destroyed or killed. I am also not happy that the illegal domestic spying this administration has engaged in appears to have nothing to do with terrorism. I am not surprised by this, of course. What I am surprised by is that no one else seems to care that the White House is more interested in sex between consenting adults than in catching a terrorist.


Comments at her site:

You did not sound like you were defending Spitzer. Rather you were pointing out that once again this looks like a politically motivated prosecution. I would argue, at this point, that we must suspect all prosecutions of Dems to be politically motivated.

Posted by: HPM | March 11, 2008 at 01:40 PM

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Larisa,

One aspect of the investigation that is not spelled out clearly, at least as far as I can see, is when, exactly, did the investigation of Spitzer begin. Accounts say the investigation began "last year," which is not very exacting, that the investigation of the prostitution ring came only after prosecutors had initially targeted Spitzer.

"We had no interest at all in the prostitution ring until the thing with Spitzer led us to learn about it," said a Justice Department official.

Clearly, the DoJ was gunning for Spitzer. And it would be awfully interesting to learn when the investigation began. I suspect, as would we all, that it was sometime shortly after Spitzer became governor, Jan. 2007. In light of this episode and the whole Siegelman scandal, the first words from a NY Times story about Spitzer as the new governor are especially delicious:

ALBANY, Jan. 1 — Eliot Spitzer ended 12 years of Republican rule here on Monday with a blunt critique of the past and a call to “end the politics of cynicism and division in our state.”
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:02 PM
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1. I'm against political prosecutions and that has little to do with Spitzer.
K&R
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:11 PM
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2. Amen!
"And I am certainly not comfortable with the hysteria over two consenting adults having sex, while no one cares that the Bush administration lied us into an illegal war in which nearly a million Iraqis have been killed and tens of thousands of Americans have either been destroyed or killed."

Double and triple amen!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:13 PM
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3. From the DKos diary Larisa quotes:
UPDATE: Another thing that bothers me about this, and bothers me greatly as a former DOJ lawyer, is that it would appear that somebody associated with federal law enforcement revealed to the press that "Client 9" was Elliott Spitzer, and that would seem in itself to be a serious violation of ethics, if not a criminal violation if it was grand jury information. Somehow, I doubt that there will be the kind of concerted investigation into who leaked this information that there was into where Spitzer was spending the cash that he was withdrawing, and that also disturbs me. Anybody who leaks confidential information from a criminal investigation should at a minimum be fired, and if it's grand jury information, they should be prosecuted.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:18 PM
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4. Rec'd! nt
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:46 PM
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5. Spitzer, as Gov. of NY, would name the replacement
for Hillary Clinton, in the Senate, if she were to become President or Vice President. I don't think it matters whether you are for or against Hillary for President. What's important is that the republicons view her as a threat.

Possible candidates to replace Hillary in the US Senate might include, William Jefferson Clinton, former President of the US. A Bill Clinton led Senate would surely be seen as a double threat by the 'cons.

Also, Spitzer may have run for President someday, or may have been able to replace Hillary, as Senator himself, if she should be on the winning ticket.
(I'm not sure of the legality of a Governor naming himself as replacement though -Anybody know?)


I can see the need to get Spitzer and to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. :sarcasm:

The governor of Illinois should probably take note of this.

horseshoecrab
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:53 PM
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6. Governors do NOT give it up to become Senators.
Not unless term limits force them out.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:34 AM
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7. big k 'n r
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:01 AM
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8. Morning kick
Because politically motivated selective prosecution stinks.


:kick:

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