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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:50 AM
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McCain: More Conservative Than His Image; "People see him as a centrist."
AP: McCain: More Conservative Than His Image
April 14, 2008
By LIBBY QUAID

WASHINGTON (AP) - The independent label sticks to John McCain because he antagonizes fellow Republicans and likes to work with Democrats. But a different label applies to his actual record: conservative. The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize. McCain leans to the right on issue after issue, not just on the Iraq war but also on abortion, gay rights, gun control and other issues that matter to his party's social conservatives.

The four-term Arizona senator, a longtime member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the earlier handling of the war but has been a crucial ally in President Bush's effort to increase and maintain U.S. forces in Iraq. Besides the war, McCain agrees broadly with Bush and other conservatives on:

_Abortion. McCain promises to appoint judges who, in the mold of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion....

_Gay rights. McCain opposes gay marriage. True, he does not support a federal ban on gay marriage on grounds the issue traditionally has been decided by states. But McCain worked to ban gay marriage in Arizona. He also supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and he opposed legislation to protect gay people from job discrimination or hate crimes....

_Gun control. McCain voted against a ban on assault-style weapons and for shielding gun-makers and dealers from civil suits. He did vote in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows, but in general he sides with the National Rifle Association in favor of gun rights....

His conservatism could be a problem for McCain -- particularly if this November's contest is as close as recent presidential elections, which were decided by independent-minded voters in the center of the political spectrum. But he might avoid this problem to the extent people know him as an independent-minded politician. And many do view him that way.

"People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. "In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said. In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left....

http://wtop.com/?nid=213&sid=1386261#
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:21 AM
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1. This is all so unclear to me. McCain is such a prevaricator,
that no one can be 100% sure where he stands on many issues. Conservatives like to say McCain is more liberal than he claims to be. Liberals say he is more of a neo-con than he claims to be.

All I know is, he's a two-faced flip-flopper who kisses Bush's ass.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:34 AM
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2. Interesting points -- and I think you nailed it. nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:40 AM
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3. It bugs me when people say that because McCain was a POW
that he therefore has an enlightened wisdom about war, and will be conscientious about war and the military, even though he has said we can stay in Iraq 100 more years for what it's worth.

War is the ONLY issue he is crystal clear about!
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:43 AM
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4. I don't see McCain as ANYTHING like a centrist.
In fact there is ony one way I see McCain, and it always looks like this:

That is enough for me!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:48 AM
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5. That photo is always worth a reminder. nt
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:50 AM
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6. We need to let people know who the *real* McCain is...
Here is a thread with some links to articles, interviews and youtube clips relating to John McCain (including an interview with the author of the new book 'The Real McCain'):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3148891&mesg_id=3148891

Also, the McCain of 2000 is NOT the same as the McCain of 2008: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9000.html
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:56 AM
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7. Thanks for these links, ihavenobias. nt
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