There is no such thing as reverse institutional racism.

[cali]

There are individual bigots but there isn't a historical cultural institution of oppression.

Just wanted to say that.

[JanMichael]

1. Thank you.

not many people understand that.

Spot on.

[XemaSab]

2. This statement needs qualification to a place and a time.

:shrug:

[cali]

3. In this country. At any time in it;'s history.

[XemaSab]

6. Thank you.

:thumbsup:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

4. Huh?

You don't remember a little thing called the Civil War?

Did I just make that up?

Do you honestly think a lot has changed since then, except, of course, that it's considered bad form to own another human being?

[cali]

7. reverse racism. in other words, there has been no institutional

racism by AAs against whites.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

14. I agree

That's only because blacks don't have the power.

But, I saw an interview with a toothless old guy living in a trailer in West Virginia (during the primary), with a big Confederate flag flying outside his abode, and he said he would never vote for Obama because, "If one of them gets into office, they're gonna do to us what we did to them."

God bless America..............

[Indenturedebtor]

5. In general I think you're right but in certain cities you may be wrong

In Atlanta for example it is likely easier to get a job and advance economically if you're black. Just food for thought :shrug:

[cali]

8. are AAs wealthier than whites in the metro Atlanta area?

If so, you might have an argument.

[Indenturedebtor]

28. Well I've been doing business to business national sales for awhile

And pretty much every Atlanta and New Orleans CEO/Business owner I call is black... and generally more pleasant to talk to but that's besides the point. If you've ever been to Atlanta it has to be about 75% AA. And if not either of those cities then there must be at least a couple somewhere in the US.

[BlooInBloo]

9. True only if one has the world's most idiotically narrow concept of "institution" in mind.

[cali]

11. really? What institutional racism have AAs imposed on whites

in this country? Do explain.

[BlooInBloo]

13. Well, I've just proven BlooInBloo's Theorem:

Not noticing the word "reverse" in an OP makes one say really stupid things.

:blush:

Nevermind!





EDIT: "you" -> "one"

[cali]

15. if it's any consolation, you've got company.

I should have been clearer.

[BlooInBloo]

16. Not a lot you could have done about it - we're just so used to seeing the phrase sans "reverse"...

Maybe capitalizing the three words could help, but other than that...

EDIT: Ah - including the word "reverse" in a strategic spot in the *body* text might have helped, too.

[izzie]

10. I think if you are saying racism is not in a society as a whole ---

You are wrong ---if that is what you are saying. One person may learn it but a whole society thinking in the same way makes it a cultural thing. Not that it is right but it is just their in the culture of where you live. History is full of re-learned cultural things. It is how we change. Their are societies that can not change or will not change and we see them fall by the way side all the time. Some times at the end of a gun or holding the gun.

[cali]

12. Do you understand what I meant by the phrase "reverse racism"?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

18. That's an inaccurate phrase

I know what you mean, but it's not accurate. There is either racism or there isn't. To you, if you're Caucasian, reverse racism might mean blacks discriminating against Caucasians. I didn't read it that way, but then, if you're of a different race, it doesn't work.

Racism is racism. You have to spell out what you mean; the shorthand phrase lacks coherence.

[cali]

21. no. all racism is not equal.

And reverse racism is a pretty common phrase, but you're right, I could have been clearer.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

23. Now, that's an interesting comment:

"All racism is not equal."

I don't have the slightest idea what that means. Can you elaborate?

[cali]

31. sure. there are degrees of racism.

there's the white person who crosses the street when she/he sees two young black men approaching, but who has no problem voting for a black person. Then there's the white power/ku klux klan type of virulant hate. there are people who make insensitive jokes that are racially charged but who has black acquaintances.

[Mojorabbit]

30. I felt that there was

when I tried to adopt in the 80's and the only children available were african american. I offered to take any age but was not approved because I was not african american. This is what they told me. This while foster homes were overflowing with children who needed families to adopt them. Would that qualify?

[izzie]

32. Well I am trying to get to what it means. I am in the dark so

am asking is that what you mean? The whole thing was un-clear to me and that is what it sounded like.

[slackmaster]

17. Racism is racism

It either exists in a particular situation or it does not. There is no way to "reverse" it.

[cali]

20. ack. there simply is no history of institutional racism on the part of AAs

against whites in this country. And no, all racism is not equal.

[slackmaster]

24. No, but it happens on an individual and small group level all the time

I agree that it's not institutional, FWIW. A group has to first be in control of an institution before it can set a policy.

;-)

[izzie]

33. Here we go. Their has always been racism against other whites

Let me count the ways. You do not know the history of this country if you do not know this has been going on since the country started. This was always a WASP country and until JFK came in their were only WASP in the cabinet. It has been all over this country for years. An easy way to see this would be for you to read about the NE mills. That is a study of great interest. They were all white people and racism from top to bottom.

[cbc5g]

19. Reverse racism implies only whites hold the copyright on racism

But as we've seen throughout history and the world, all races have been subjected to racism and slavery.

*some moreso than others because of various factors

[cali]

22. I was talking about this country. Sorry I should have made that clearer.

[cbc5g]

25. Np you addressed it earlier and I should have read all the responses

[cali]

26. that's my point. The U.S. has a long and sordid history

of oppressing AAs through its institutions- from slavery to today. The reverse is obviously NOT true.

[cbc5g]

27. I think

You're right.

[cbc5g]

29. I think racism is mostly an exploitation of weakness and the hateful justification for it

We naturally as a species exploit weakness. Bullies in school? Exploitation of weakness. Not all , but many. Abuser cops? Exploitation of weakness. Enslaving people from Africa? Exploitation of weakness. And that combined with racial prejudice passed on by pissed off southerners since the civil war created the horrible record whites have with race relations.


African and South American tribes are well known for attacking and sometimes enslaving the weaker tribes.

Neanderthals were the first to suffer from Homo Sapiens exploitation of weakness. We exterminated them about 30,000 years ago after possibly enslaving them.

Hell, even other carnivorous animals will attack those they perceive as weak.

[mitchum]

34. That is absolutely correct