For the love of Christ. First Rachel Ray can't wear a damned Paisley

[JanMichael]

scarf, now Obama is resigning from his church---and why?

Because right wing whack job lunatic freaky mother fuckers say something?

Goddamnit, get some freakin' backbone.

I mean, shit.

[babylonsister]

1. Read these please:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6203588

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6200847

[JanMichael]

3. Yeah. But, you know what it boils down to?

some RW fucking lunatic whackjobs from hell made a fake issue out of a stupid sermon (and one that I agree with.)

Dunkin Donuts---it was a fucking paisley scarf....PAISLEY. Terrorists wear Paisley now?????

What the fuck ever.

[KSinTX]

7. I did see Kelly Rippa holding a terrorist cake

in a Lowe's ad just a bit ago. There may also have been an element of 3 am fear-mongering (well she DID have a phone in her kitchen). As much as I treat Lowe's as my second hang, gonna have to let it go. I'm scared of their embrace of this un-American visual.

[Bob Dobbs]

12. It was actually a kaffiyeh in a print ad.

Not a paisley scarf.

And dunkin' blownuts is owned in large part by the Carlisle Group, poppy busholini's war profiteering holding company that is little busholini's retirement fund that will allow him to escape to the compound in Paraguay they are building over one of the last unpolluted aquifers in the world.

Barak has made a good faith attempt at breaking through the fascist corporatist propaganda media complex on preachergate, but some battles are too insignificant to waste energy on.

[alfredo]

14. A leftist has won the presidency in Paraguay. bush can't hide there now.

[Bob Dobbs]

15. That'a what blackwater is for.

They are the Carlisle Group imperial guards.

[alfredo]

22. True.

[Kitty Herder]

21. The only version of the ad I've seen shows a paisley scarf.

Of course, to the visually impaired who can't see details like paisleys, it might appear otherwise. Can you show me this supposed kaffiyeh?

[Bob Dobbs]

24. Here

<http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Scarf_Made_Rachael_Ray_A_Terrorist_Sympathizer_18240.html>

[gatorboy]

27. It's a keffiyeh because the writer says so? Where's the source?

I'd put this in the "some people say" category until you have actual proof.

[Kitty Herder]

28. Like I said before, your eyesight has to be failing to not see the paisleys.

It's just a paisley scarf. You have to stretch your imagination a bit to make it into anything else.

Sometimes a scarf is just a scarf.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. No, it was a paisley scarf

He confirmed that Ray was wearing a black and white scarf with a paisley floral design that was chosen by the stylist for the shoot and echoed Dunkin's statement. "Absolutely no symbolism was intended," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4949437&page=1

Yeah, it's a small battle, though the similarity with the Iranian government's War On Ties is funny:

A top Iranian customs official has called for imports of ties to be banned because they are "against Iranian culture," the Fars news agency reported on Thursday, amid a crackdown on unIslamic dress.

"Imports of some apparel are not banned but serious action should be taken to stop the import of ties which contradict the nature of Iranian culture," state customs bureau deputy head Asghar Hamidi was quoted as saying.

"We need to change the country's import regulations to this end," said Hamidi, who is also head of a state plan for the "development of culture, chastity and the veil."

The wearing of ties was promoted under the deposed US-backed shah. But has been banned in government offices since the 1979 Islamic revolution as a sign of Westernisation.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ih95FyIM8gxYfLcdCbLa9SmI5kDQ

[Bob Dobbs]

25. That is called a kaffiyeh.

dunkin blownuts spin notwithstanding

[muriel_volestrangler]

26. except that a kaffiyeh is an Arab headdress

The characteristic masculine Arab headdress has been the kaffiyeh. It is still worn today, although it may now be accompanied by a Western suit. Basically, the kaffiyeh is a square of cotton, linen, wool, or silk, either plain or patterned, that is folded into a triangle and placed upon the head so that one point falls on to each shoulder and the third down the back. It is held in place on the head by the agal (igal, egal), a corded band decorated with beads or metallic threads.

Encyclopedia Britannica

and this was a scarf, ie worn round the neck. The paisley pattern is Indo-European, not Arabic. http://www.paisley.org.uk/history/pattern.php

[silverweb]

2. To be fair...

Obama resigned largely for the sake of the church and its congregation. In his press conference, he said that parishoners were being harassed, including shut-ins. He wanted to restore their peace and end the relentless public scrutiny.

The video of his press conference is _here_

[JanMichael]

5. Oh, Christ on a trailor hitch dude. Churches haven't had

controversy before???? Goddamn grow a set, ya know??? Ever heard of liberation theology?

Thank God they aren't debating something like non-hetero priests or anything.

Ridiculous

[silverweb]

19. Not ridiculous at all.

Obama's empathy for and consideration of other people is one of the things that makes him so special.

He wanted the congregation to be able to get back to doing what they do: worshipping and community service. I don't have his exact words in front of me, but that was the gist of it and he stated it most eloquently.

[stevedeshazer]

4. I hear that.

I don't get the surrender.

Nobody not a dittohead cares.

Agreed.

[lonestarnot]

6. And neither one of these stories amounts to a didly damn.

[JanMichael]

8. They do now. They show what a bunch of spineless wimps

liberals can be.

We have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that bullshit rhetoric cast out by the Fox news freaks, and their conservative ilk is totally effective.

[lonestarnot]

9. Speak for yourself. Drunkin Dobutthole is owned by whom? Did you look?

Rachel Ray voted for bushitler twice. And Senator Obama just moved on, so why is that a story and why would that constitute spineless? Brains is all that was.

[ashling]

10. Frankly, it is high time that Obama choose a church

closer to home if he intends to attend regularly. There's bound to be one closer to the White House.
:shrug:

[grannylib]

11. Oh, you can't go to church when you're President...it's a security

risk to the other worshipers. St. Ronald of RayGun, darling of the so-called Christian Right, said so.
That was why HE never went to church. He could have all the manhole covers welded shut along his parade route for the coronation, THAT'S not a problem, but showing up in CHURCH??? Too much work for the security detail.
:sarcasm:

[Captain Angry]

13. It's easier for moron press to report that than investigate.

The news business does not generate revenue, therefore they cut their foreign offices and reduce the investigation.

MSNBC has chosen to talk about the same political crap all day long. When they're not running re-runs of pedophile catchers.

Fox chose to pump business and conservative stuff.

CNN chases missing blond girls.

They all learned from Dan Rather that if you do a piece with excellent investigation, that you'll be destroyed for it. Nobody ever produced the President's records.

So, we get stories about that crap. That's what's nice about internet news. If the title is useful, you can avoid crap stories easily by not clicking. But my grandmom is forcefed that shit by the TV news, and it sucks.

[cbc5g]

16. If the RW were going after people you loved because of your affiliation, wouldnt you leave?

A lot of RW'ers are violent sick and nasty and I'm sure Trinity received a lot of threats.

[JanMichael]

17. uh huh. Well, he better get ready for a lot worse

from that crowd.

Better learn how to handle it.

[Bob Dobbs]

18. He handles it well.

Perhaps you heard his speech on race in America.

[magellan]

20. It's time the minority RW radicals were put back in their place

I wish someone in a leadership role would tell them to get stuffed instead of condoning or bowing to their lunacy all the time. That is one of the things I find most incredible since moving back to the US: these idiots are being VALIDATED now, as if they're anything but destructive.