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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:20 PM Original message |
Homeless in SanDiego threatened with Arrest |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's a snip: |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Thanks, I just did the same on edit!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It's always NIMBY or fear. I can't read the comments because it hurts |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Speaking of NIMBY, in Los Angeles we have a thing called |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's excellent. Bringing together community stakeholders, |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yes in my backyard! I love it thanks! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
111. this deserves a thread of its own... could you please post it? |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Good question, what insensitivity! |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. They did this already in Los Angeles |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yep, outta sight outta mind! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It will only be stopped when "progressives" and "liberals" stop accepting homelessness, |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Absolutely!! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. delete |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. What did the progressives and Dems of LA do to support homeless people there? |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. There was a pretty sustained response, actually |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. My feeling is that these funds would be better used ... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. "toward building permanent affordable housing." !!! Pleeeeez keep repeating! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. I'm glad to hear that. HOWEVER, what I was saying, is the "progressive" population as a whole. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I don't think I've ever encountered anything that I can say |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. I'm pretty sure you know what I meant, but if it struck a nerve, I guess |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. of course there were. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
124. "as a whole" |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. So what does it cost to place them in jail because they do not have |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. of course it would |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. If you get them apartments you raise the rents and often evict low income families. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. that's obviously the wrong way to solve the problem |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I don't disagree but you often need to build new units or convert commercial space. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. It's really not that complex or difficult. |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Giving many homeless people an apartment is just a good way to ruin an apartment, |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Wrong. Giving homeless people an apartment is a good way to |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. We probably agree more than disagree. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I don't know. I have no idea whether the people in those camps |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. There is a huge difference between Newly homeless due to circumstances |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Beyond Shelter and those who do the housing first model |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Did you read the article about housing first? |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Yes I agree and if you put a newly homeless person in a new home. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. How can you presume to know what kind of homeless they are? |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Honestly you can ask them... How long have you been homeless how |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. so you have asked these people at the SD park this? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
127. "Newly homeless", as in "worthy" vs "unworthy" |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. THEY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR TWENTY YEARS |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. That's not true about all of them. That's ONE person |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I judge with humor compassion and honesty. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #69 |
83. professional pan-handlers |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. "Hard Core Homeless".. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. They are American Gypsies. And deal with them accordingly. |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Okay that was a little harsh. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
84. I'm sure the Roma |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
105. immoral and bigoted in so many ways |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. You have the RW talking points down very well, indeed. |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. We agree there needs to be more housing. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. What do we do with conservatives who have hardened hearts? |
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Indigo Blue (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
99. Carnea, I would really appreciate it if you would read this: |
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Indigo Blue (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. Carnea, I've read through your replies; here's more for you to read: |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
112. Why do they need to be free of the use of legal substances? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
122. Downtown LA has been going through a "regentrification" over the past 20 years. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. The only way to stop this shit is for muddle-class people to GET OUT THERE AND JOIN THE CAMPS! |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. The "Pala area" is rather vague. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. Thanks for posting this.. it's something DU doesn't always deal with.... Kick! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Thanks! Check out the Poverty Topic forum here |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
22. They a fire hazard. A health hazard and a crime hazard. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. "I support the homeless. " |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. I do not believe you were homeless because you would be.... |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Well let me cheer you up a little. |
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City of Mills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. This has been my experience |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. Thank you this is exactly the type of individuals I was talking about... |
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Indigo Blue (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. "There is no jurisdiction in the United States... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Thank you Indigo Blue!! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
116. Beautiful Post, wonderful! sorry I missed it until now! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is just wrong. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. Who needs homeless neighbors? |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Define affordable. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. It could be the same housing you and I live in (unless you're a millionaire) |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. For someone with no income, affordable means fully subsidized rental housing. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Hear, hear!!! You are the dependable voice of reason concerning housing! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Sing it, sistah!!!! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
30. Nice misleading subject line |
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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. While Mortgage Lenders continue to make huge profits |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. That's about as far off topic as you could possibly get |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Compassion works both ways. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
88. "redress of grievances" You make an excellent point! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
93. Communal living in a capitalist society? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
106. great post |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. "plenty of resources"???? "Messed up people"? |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Vert good post bobbolink |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. thanx, Alyce! I started to guess that, but being in the situation myself, your support helps |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Wisdom lives |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
79. I am gushing with compassion for people who really need it |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Research the resources |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. Oh I am sooo sorry!! |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
80. Specifically, what resources are available for the homeless in San Diego |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Self-delete |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Good question!! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Access to resources is mostly limited by FEW RESOURCES! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Of course! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. That, of course... however, people assume there are so many other "resources", and they are wrong. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. And when the people have no advocates... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #98 |
109. Once again, you're brilliant! You hit it right on the target! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. AW, shucks! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. Kick |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. Error: You've already recommended that thread. Any reason why we can't get this on the GREATEST?? |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. Combine this thread with the one about For Profit Prison industry |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. INDEED. nt |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Great point! |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. one once urinated in front of her grandmother. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. Very ambiguous |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. Not mean to be ambiguous |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
62. Maybe they should move their camp onto the nearest Congressperson's |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Bravo! great idea! |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
63. Robert Mugabe called |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
82. Too bad there aren't any self-policing government homeless camps like |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Very good point. We're ALL so taken over by our RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
91. We are doing this, us. Until we make up our minds that there is an acceptable |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Yes, I am afraid |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. You're so right! WE accept homelessness... WE just don't want to see it, or |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
104. The Tramp Circular, revisited |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Excellent piece! I wish this were used by DUers to be reprinted, and handed out! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. We are the press!!! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Indeed! We MUST be our own media. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. I use a local printer, trying to find a union one |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Thank you! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
107. kick |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
120. kicking again |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Wow, right back atya!! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
123. some day soon... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Post du Jour!! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. illogical arguments |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. In the family! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
129. There is going to be an explosion.... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. handle it? |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. wondering how and when we are going to start handling the government. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. interesting and revealing, isn't it? |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. so we must talk to all the people... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. pervasive atmosphere |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. real quick |
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