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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:43 PM
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Help! Need some facts about Obama and Rezc(k)o. Dad keeps bringing it up that Obama lied.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 06:11 PM by Danieljay
My father is a life time Democrat, hates McCain, but doesn't want to vote for Obama. Truth is, I think he doesn't want to vote for a black man for president, though he won't outright admit it. He said he just might not vote or throw a vote toward Ron Paul. We made progress today, though he threw the Rezco connection at me. I want to send him something that exonerates Obama, but I know little of the connection.

thanks in advance.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:45 PM
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1. Don't have a link, but Rezco told the court the feds were pressuring him to implicate Obama
and the Governor there, but he wouldn't because he said he had nothing on either of them.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:47 PM
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2. the chicago tribune or the chicago suntimes
has the trial and summary on their website. if it`s archived try google...i think too that he does`t want to vote for a black guy.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:47 PM
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3. Use this.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-zorn-10-jun10,0,3997821.column

Sums the situation up fairly well. There is NOTHING in this entire episode that implicates Obama in ANY wrongdoing.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:08 PM
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12. thank you, that helps alot! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:51 PM
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4. Rezko: Feds wanted dirt on Obama, Ill. gov.
Rezko: Feds wanted dirt on Obama, Ill. gov.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
06/12/2008


CHICAGO -- Convicted political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko claims in a letter to his trial judge written two months before his conviction on corruption charges that federal prosecutors pressured him to implicate Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama or Gov. Rod Blagojevich in wrongdoing.

But in the letter to U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve, which she placed in his file Wednesday, Rezko said he was never involved in any wrongdoing with either Obama or Blagojevich and wouldn't make up stories about them in an attempt to benefit himself.

"I will never fabricate lies about anyone else for selfish purposes," Rezko wrote to St. Eve in April in a bid to be released on bail during his trial. "I will take what comes my way, but I will never hurt innocent people."

Rezko attorney Joseph Duffy said Wednesday there has never been any indication the government is investigating anything about Obama.

"I'm not aware of any impropriety related to Rezko and Obama," Duffy told the Chicago Tribune. "At no point has the government ever asked me a single question about Obama, or any wrongdoing involving Rezko and Obama."

"There has been absolutely no suggestion at any point during the entire course of this trial that Sen. Obama was involved in any improper action or conduct involving Tony Rezko, and at no point has Sen. Obama been contacted for an interview or for any information about Tony Rezko," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told the Tribune. "Nothing in this letter indicates anything to the contrary."
more...

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/4717BB241EBEB5E4862574660043B013?OpenDocument
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:56 PM
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7. Great answer.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:54 PM
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5. I fear your Dad's not all that unusual
That's the kind of racist rationalization we're going to see more and more as November draws closer and closer. Face it - the Rezco "connection" doesn't exist, and Obama didn't lie about anything.

Ask your father to show you what he's quoting so that you can read it for yourself. The best defense is always a good offense.
That might, at the very least, change his reasons for not voting for Obama.

I hope he comes around.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:57 PM
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8. Exactly, though he's moving toward doing the right thing. Its a generational thing....
I simply hope he can overcome his upbringing. He's a good man.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:13 PM
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15. It's sort of a generational thing,
but I suspect I'm older than your father. A lot of our generation aren't hobbled by the kind of fear that inspires racism.

Stay on him, in the nicest possible way, and see what you can do.

He has a good kid.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:54 PM
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6. Here's another source for you
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:57 PM
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9. I thought Democrats were more progressive.
Hard to imagine a Democrat at this point in time not voting for someone because of color. I know there are people like that but I always imagined them to be Republican.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:03 PM
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11. when I worked in the aircraft industry back in Kansas, racism among white blue collar Dems was every
where....

It still exists, big time.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:19 PM
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16. That's exactly what I always thought...
However, in talking with a friend of mine who's a pretty staunch Democrat, he'll say something like "Im not racist or anything, but I just don't think he'll ever get elected, there are too many people that won't vote for a black man."

To me, he's really saying that he, himself won't vote for him for that reason, but he just can't come out and say it. I do know that his father is extremely racist.

My response to him is always something along the lines of "Really? You seriously feel that Democrats are not ready to vote for a black man?" He never has much of an answer to that question.

He just won't admit that he has a problem with it. We'll talk and he'll say stuff like, "Hey, I see your guy is doing well." or something like that. He said that he kind of liked Hillary, but even then, he didn't think that America was ready to elect a woman either. I haven't talked to him since Obama clinched the nom, though.

As for McCain, he has said that he used to kind of liked him, because of his "straight talk" and his military background, but can't ever see himself voting for a Republican.

It's weird...
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:07 AM
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21. You are spot on, this was everywhere in back in Kansas where I am originally from. n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:02 PM
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10. What, Specifically, Does Your Dad Claim Obama Lied About?
Unless we have a specific, it's tough to refute.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:08 PM
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13. Here's why your google search did not yield much info...
You need to spell Rezko correctly: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=rezko+obama+refute&btnG=Search

Happy reading. Let us know what you learn!
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:10 PM
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14. awesome, thank you. Duh! n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:54 PM
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17. Everyone knows about the fired federal attorneys and political prosecutions.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 06:55 PM by McCamy Taylor
Paint Tony Rezko as the Bush administration's attempt to get Barack Obama via their corrupt DOJ. Since it was Fitz on the case instead of one of their political guys, it did not work. That ought to convince any Democrat and many Independents. Hell, lots of people can be convinced that Rezko was innocent, too, given the prosecution of people like Georgia Thompson, which means that even Obama's association with Rezko no longer has to be a negative. The whole thing can be spun as "The GOP is attacking all my associates".

The Karl Rove strategy of making all his tactics public knowledge to scare people is really backfiring this election.
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Smear Talk Express Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:06 PM
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18. hahahaha...
Get your dad off the Smear Talk Express even if you have to beat him off.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:11 PM
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19. lots of info here..
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:11 PM
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20. if he's over 60, threaten to have him committed
30 days in a mental health facility might help him find his mind.
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