FISA question

[raebrek]

What I know about FISA is mostly about wire tapping phone calls. When I call overseas I use the Internet and I wonder if anyone knows if FISA has anything about that in it? Why would anyone place a phone call if they can use the internet to place a call for free and wouldn't that subvert wiretapping?

Raebrek!!!

[EconomyCollapsesInUS]

1. Don't You Think They've Already Thought Of That...

I'm SURE they're spying on internet, e-mails and internet phone calls.

[raebrek]

7. I don't trust them to think of everything. n/t

[mikelgb]

2. all communications are covered under FISA

all communications are being eavesdropped illegally under Bush

AT&T has simply split off the fiber optics at the main source

[raebrek]

4. Yahoo, MSN Messenger and such

so FISA takes into account Yahoo and MSN and such methods of communication. I'm sure there are even more that I didn't think about. I use it to keep my mother in law in touch back to the philippines.

Raebrek!!!

[On the Road]

3. As I Read the Bill,

it discusses location and citizenship rather than technology. The bill allows a warrant to be delayed for seven days if a person who is currently targeted as a terrorist calls you from overseas.

What type of phone service you use is not at issue. The NSA is able to capture and decode many kinds of communication streams.

[raebrek]

6. but it can be done with out a phone service

That was what I was thinking. Video chatting is independent of the phone lines so to speak. unless you tried to do it via dial up and then it would be sloooooow. I guess if they are looking for incoming calls from abroad then they must have it sewn up.

Raebrek!!!

[Hydra]

8. Data lines are fair game

And your comments are being recorded as we speak.

There is literally NOWHERE to hide anymore.

[On the Road]

9. If Our Comments are Being Recorded as We Speak,

it has nothing to do with anything in the FISA bill. Where specifically do you find that?

[On the Road]

10. The NSA Intercepts All Kinds of Communications Streams --

telephone, VoIP, data, streaming video, cell message, email. They intercept raw data streams, often with mixed media, and have to figure out what the protocols are, what type of encoding (eg, wmv versus mpeg) is used, whether it's encrypted, and if so whether they can break the encryption. After that they need to figure out what language it's in and translate it.

The point is that the bill was written to cover all types on communications, as it should be. No reason for there to be a legal isse simply because bin Laden sends a text message or a video instead of a landline call.

[rateyes]

5. The telecoms are routing all phone calls placed in the US

overseas and back. EVERYTHING is being data-mined. And, that's not tin-foil talking.

[Crabby Appleton]

11. Any electronic communication - including emails and VOIP

`(A) a telecommunications carrier, as that term is defined in section 3 of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 153);
`(B) a provider of electronic communication service, as that term is defined in section 2510 of title 18, United States Code;
`(C) a provider of a remote computing service, as that term is defined in section 2711 of title 18, United States Code;
`(D) any other communication service provider who has access to wire or electronic communications either as such communications are transmitted or as such communications are stored;