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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:46 PM
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Dallas county officials spar over 'black hole' comment
dallasnews.com

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre Tuesday afternoon.

County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.

Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office. Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."

That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/071008dnmetofficialsspar.3b884727.html?npc">Complete article
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:51 PM
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1. Sounds like a bunch of holes to me
but not white or black comes to mind.
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:51 PM
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2. What morons. The only "racially insensitive" comment was from Price.
Unfuckingbelievable...
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:06 PM
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13. This is John Wiley Price
He does tend to overreact. There are more racial problems to be dealt with than some member of the council saying "black hole." Price overreacts to many things.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:51 PM
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3. Physicists around the world thrown into a panic
Now what are they supposed to call it?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:52 PM
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4. My goodness. This story is not from the Daily News.
Irregardless, I bet we're not getting the full story.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:58 PM
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9. It's pretty close...
"I bet we're not getting the full story."

It's pretty close-- that particular portion of the council meeting was played ad-nauseum on the local news last night.

I think JWP was being a tad oversensitive in this instance, but he's got good reason to-- he habitually gets portrayed as a clown by local media when the reality is (at least, as perceived by me) that he's the hardest working member of the council, always trying to eke out a few crumbs for the perpetually underfunded South Dallas area.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:19 PM
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15. he just proved he IS a clown
Cmon. Black hole is not a racist term.

Why is it called a black hole? Because the gravity is so intense, no light can get out.

What do you see when there is no light (lock yourself in a very dark room if you don't believe me)...? Black

Hence the term "Black Hole"

Clowns are as clowns do.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:39 PM
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17. Of course I don't believe Black Hole to be a racist term
Of course I don't believe Black Hole to be a racist term, but JWP has been working for the city since the mi-seventies when Dallas was still an openly racist city sitting inside of an openly racist state. I don;t blame him one bit if he's habitualized himself into becoming defensive and seeing racism where none exists. He's been the passive and active victim of racially motivated "pranks" numerous times over the years. I imagine if that had happened to me, I'd perceive the words and actions of a wide swath of people a little differently than I do now.

"(lock yourself in a very dark room if you don't believe me)...? "

Now, now-- there's no need to get sarcastic and clever, I'm sure as much as we disagree on, we agree opn even more...
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:53 PM
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19. Sarcastic and clever
Hey thanks! I knew I was sarcastic, but that made me feel good to know I was clever too! :)

Cheers.
I wasn't trying to be mean, just funny.

I understand what you are saying, but people like this (the eternally offended) make a mockery, whether they intend to or not (most likely the latter) of REAL racism and bias.

It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf.

REminds me of the comedy routine where the comedian was making fun of this type of person by riffing on the fact that olives are racist - since the black ones are locked away in a can, but the green ones are in a bottle. And the green ones get a pretty red filling, etc.

But in conclusion, this guy (in this instance) DOES sound clownish. He gives fodder for comedians, critics and political opponents and the reality is - that when you are on record with RIDICULOUS claims of racism, one's valid claims of racism are going to receive less credibility.

I believe the term is MEGO - My Eyes Glaze Over.



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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:03 PM
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20. No harm intended so no offense taken
"I wasn't trying to be mean, just funny."

No harm intended so no offense taken :)


I'm the stereotypical straight, conventional, blue-eyed white guy, so I consciously attempt to give greater latitude to people who come from minority races, orientations, religions, etc. for no other reason than I can't imagine what it would be like to "walk a mile in their shoes".

Maybe I bend over backward too much and thus lose sight of the other goals in life, but it's not really a big deal-- sometimes I just wind up defending the indefensible, but... :shrug:

Cheers back atcha
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:58 PM
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10. the full story is that John Wiley Price..
is a man who has made a career out of fostering racial divisiveness in Dallas.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:04 PM
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11. Yes, sad but true
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:52 PM
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5. Can't expect County Commissioners to understand physics.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:54 PM
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8. but basic terminology of the world around them?
i mean...they haven't even heard the term 'black hole' in relation to object in space?

sP
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:53 PM
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6. Price and Jones both need an astronomy lesson
God, I wish this were a joke...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:53 PM
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7. Holy Cow How Stupid LOL. That Has To Be One Of The Most Overly Inflated Charges Of Racism I've Ever
seen.

And the funniest part is that the Judge actually demanded an apology LOL. That means not one, but TWO people in that room were melodramatic and dumb enough to actually for a second think that was a racially motivated statement. Too fuckin funny!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:06 PM
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12. Blue people up in arms over comment.
the committee for equal rights for blue people were up in arms today over a comment made by upper volta's president elect.

At a press conference held in the daisy garden of the palace, the president was heard replying to a obviously true comment by a member of the press, "that's as true as the sky is blue!"

At which point, several members of the Blue Equal Rights Committee stood up and yelled, "racist!!!"

Calls to the presidents office for comment have not been returned.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:20 PM
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16. Papa smurf took the lead, and Smurfette is filibustering... n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:54 PM
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22. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
:spray: :rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:07 PM
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14. Brilliant
:rofl:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:43 PM
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18. How stupid.
That wasn't a racist statement. The guy is an idiot for interrupting and saying "excuse me".
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:06 PM
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21. dumb assholes in a shithole town
shut your pieholes already!
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