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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:26 AM
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Soliciting $ For Presidential Foundations-A Question:
As appalling as the Steven Payne video soliciting donations to the Bush Presidential Library Fund is, would someone explain to me how this is different:

After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: January 31, 2008
Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them.

Unlike more established competitors, Mr. Giustra was a newcomer to uranium mining in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic. But what his fledgling company lacked in experience, it made up for in connections. Accompanying Mr. Giustra on his luxuriously appointed MD-87 jet that day was a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton.

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"Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, whose 19-year stranglehold on the country has all but quashed political dissent."

"Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy."

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Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.

LINK:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html


HERE IS SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT IS OCCURRING WITH PAYNE. I AM ALL FOR INVESTIGATING THIS BUT IF WE WANT REAL CHANGE WE MUST EXAMINE ALL PARTIES THAT ARE WILLING TO SELL OUT FOR THEIR ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!


Let The Investigations Begin!
By Andrew Tilghman - July 15, 2008, 8:35AM
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) plans to investigate reports that a Homeland Security adviser was soliciting donations to the Bush presidential library fund in exchange for access to high-ranking government officials.

Waxman sent a letter to Steven Payne's Houston office requesting written responses to a series of questions:

1. What is your affiliation with George W. Bush Presidential Library? Have you been authorized or asked to solicit funds for the library?
2. Have you ever solicited funds for the library from any individuals, governments, companies, or organizations?

3. If you have ever solicited funds for the library, please describe each solicitation, including the persons or organizations solicited and amounts requested and received, and describe whether you arranged or attempted to arrange any meetings for such persons or organizations with U.S. government officials.

Meanwhile, Department of Homeland Security officials are also investigating Payne, who was appointed last year to sit on the department's main advisory board.
"This is a horribly unfortunate story," said Homeland Security spokeswoman Laura Keehner. "We are looking into the facts." She declined to comment further.

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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/oversight_committee_launches_p.php
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:42 AM
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1. BTW Mr Giustra is the same guy Clinton was assisting in Colombia, brought up during the primary:
When the Clintons Mine Big Bucks
By Steve Weissman
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Thursday 03 April 2008

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In June 2005, Giustra provided his luxurious MD-87 jet for Clinton to make speeches in Mexico, Colombia, Chile and Brazil. According to Bloomberg News, the tour earned Clinton $800,000 in personal income. Giustra "has since put his plane at Clinton's disposal at least a dozen times to raise money for charity, his wife's presidential campaign or himself," Bloomberg reported.

American law does not permit Giustra, as a Canadian, to contribute directly to Hillary Clinton's campaign. Whether providing his plane to raise campaign money counts as a contribution, I leave to the legal eagles.

A far more telling payoff involved Colombia, which has long faced international condemnation for its well-documented violations of labor and other human rights. In the oval office and after, Bill Clinton never let this get in his way, steadfastly backing a free trade agreement with the country along with a $3 billion "Plan Colombia" to fight drug traffickers and guerrillas. As he publicly told Colombian President Alvaro Uribe and others in Bogota, he was "absolutely convinced that it was vital to American interests that Colombia succeed" against the left-wing narcotraficantes.

In September 2005, Clinton hosted "a philanthropic event" at which one of his aides arranged for Giustra to meet Uribe. According to The Wall Street Journal, the two men sat in the hallway speaking for about ten minutes. A Clinton aide later told Giustra the meeting had gone well.

Giustra wanted Colombian oil. He was working with a Canadian group that subsequently paid more than $250 million to operate oil fields in conjunction with Colombia's state-owned petroleum company. Giustra's associates - now operating as Pacific Rubiales Energy Corp. - also signed an oil pipeline deal and was invited to do further oil-development work in Colombia, the Journal reported.

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040308R.shtml

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:02 PM
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2. K*R for FULL & OPEN DISCLOSURE!
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 03:02 PM by autorank
I'd heard about this and you did the research. I like that!

Jimmy Carter is my model for an ex president - promote democracy and build homes for the poor.

Here's a solution - all candidates sign a contract before they're elected, iron clad, making
sure nobody takes advantage of our indulgence in voting them into an office that's a
privilege in and of itself.

I'd be thrilled to have the presidential retirement package.

A Contract for the USA
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