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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:48 PM
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Bayh As Veep? But He Co-Chaired Neocon Committee For The Liberation Of Iraq With McCain!

Bayh As Veep? But He Co-Chaired Neocon Committee For The Liberation Of Iraq With McCain!


By Greg Sargent - July 16, 2008, 6:03PM

Senator Evan Bayh's appearance today with Barack Obama at the "21st Century Threats" summit has stirred a lot of talk in the press about the possibility of him being on Obama's Veep short-list.

But we're not sure that's such a viable idea. That's because in 2003, Bayh was an honorary co-chair of the neocon pro-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq -- a group he joined along with none other than John McCain and Joe Lieberman, according to a press release from during the run-up to the invasion

Check this out, from the group's press release on February 14th, 2003 (via Nexis):

The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) is pleased to welcome Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) as an Honorary Co-Chairman. Bayh becomes the third U.S. Senator to join the committee after Sens. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) announced their participation on January 28.

The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann, whom Josh has been blogging about.



Bayh would, to put it very charitably, muddle Obama's message. It's true that Bayh was said to have subsequently removed himself from the group. But Obama's campaign is partly about -- and rightly so -- the judgment he made, and others didn't, in the run-up to the invasion.

link to full article:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:55 PM
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1. does this suprise people? (nt)
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:56 PM
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2. No to Evan Bayh.... absolutely not! His name is purely media speculation as he was HRC's choice
Hillary favored him from everything I read during the primaries, probably because he would be fine with VP in name only...

I'm sorry to be harsh, but that is what I feel. The media just automatically assumes the Bayh would also be Obama's choice. They make a lot of false assumptions as has been their history.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 05:50 AM
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5. Unfortunately, Evan Bayh is under VERY serious consideration right now
Unfortunately, Evan Bayh is NOW under VERY serious consideration right now
In fact be leads in the speculating on both Rasmussen Markets and Intrade Prediction Markets

Intrade Prediction Market is now speculating a 19.8% chance Sen. Bayh will be selected.


Sen. Biden is number two with Intrade speculating a 13.4% chance he will be selected

Gov. Kaine is number three with Intrade speculating at 12.6%

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch /

Sen. Bayh also leads on Rasmussen Markets at 20.0%, followed by Sen. Biden at 13.0%

http://markets.rasmussenreports.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?selConID=68206
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:10 PM
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3. that would be close to a deal breaker for me
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:34 AM
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6. It may not be a deal breaker for me. But it would certainly douse the enthusiasm of millions of Sen
Obama's supporters.,

Just among the millions and millions of Arab-American and Muslim-American voters who have already gone from enthusiastic supporters of Sen. Obama to less than enthusiastic accepters and apologist for Sen. Obama who will still probably vote for him anyway, the selection of Evan Bayh could likely mean the end to this fundamental realignment.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:19 PM
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4. The choice of Bayh or any other Blue Dog would be a disaster
because it would signal to the voters that any change Obama was likely to provide would be cosmetic, only.

Conservatives got us into this mess. They can't get us out of it.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:46 AM
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7. BINGO!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:48 AM
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8. why waste energy on pure 'speculation'...wait for some facts imho
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:53 AM
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9. quite frankly, if a foreign policy neocon like Sen. Bayh is selected., it will be too late to
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 10:53 AM by Douglas Carpenter
complain then.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 03:07 PM
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12. /
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:03 AM
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10. It's tough. For many of us, we didn't support Senator Clinton
because of people in her corner such as Bayh and Kerrey. Now what, they become integral in the Democratic party going forward? I'm tired.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 12:39 PM
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11. a kick for the next shift
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:12 AM
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13. one more kick
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