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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:43 PM Original message |
So, this crazy murder in Canada is really showcasing ignorance toward the mentally ill |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Meanwhile, the various crazed racist killers down here get little attention. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Those crimes often get disappeared, don't they? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Wow, I feel much better about my country now |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Happy to be of service! |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
254. Apparently, you also still have a free press there, too. Eh? |
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Truth4Justice (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
149. You mean racist killers like the Carr Brothers? You are correct; it wasn't covered very well. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm reminded of the Texas woman who drowned her children a few years back. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yes. And if you bring up her name, it's an invitation for hateful posts. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. And, America has largely and purposefully ignored POSTPARTUM illness .... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
137. I know. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. Andrea Yates. She is a very sad case. n/t |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:18 AM Response to Reply #40 |
179. Ah, I guessed Susan Smith. n/t |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #179 |
196. Smith was convicted, and she was never deemed to be insane. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #179 |
207. No, her kids were lder. She strapped them into their |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. It's so hard these days to get somebody locked up for their own good |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #179 |
250. there's a slight difference between the two |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
85. And why shouldn't she be devastated? Hello? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. I love your polar bear!!!!!!! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. thanks! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. He certainly wasn't operating from a rational place. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Here it's legally "Guilty but not criminally responsible" |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Right, no way was this a premeditated action by a sane man |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. YEah, I can't see him being put in to a regular prison |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Our prisons ARE where we put the mentally ill. |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
110. Also much more expensive for taxpayers. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #110 |
139. It's stupid all around, isn't it? The other day, I had to call |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #139 |
170. In California, it's a 5150 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #170 |
176. And actually getting that to happen is next to impossible. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
101. Unless he's enacting some ritual or religious thing |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. I have someone in my family who refuses to believe that I am biplor. He's a "bootstrapper" and |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I fucking hate people like that |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I just mentioned in another thread that it would be so cool if we were telepathic/empathic and could |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Like a mind meld |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yeah, like that! |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. What a better world it would be |
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BB1 (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 05:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
182. That might be the only solution. |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Narrow-channeled intellect syndrome. |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
255. Rusty Yates believed the same thing about Andrea Yates! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. ... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. back atcha! |
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tannybogus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. I always cringe when I hear that some was depressed, |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Play that up |
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tannybogus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I did that when I taught school. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. I agree -- I also don't like seeing someone sociopathic called mentally ill |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Yeah, lots of wealthy business guys are sociopathics |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. "The Sociopath Next Door" |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. Still if people with mental illness could get the help they need.. this stuff wouldn't happen. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. They pulled the same shit in BC |
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NikolaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
235. I Find There To Be A Lot Of Coldness |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. It wasn't Reagan, it was the ACLU |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. no, it wasn't the ACLU |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. States couldn't have restricted funds if not for those suits. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. yeah, stupid "due process" technicalities |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Bringing up Reagan is silly. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
138. um, he did have some control of federal funding, yes |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #138 |
204. The law of unintended consequences strikes here. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #204 |
225. no, not really |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
116. No, it was Reagan |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
56. Wait . . . some are confusing two issues . . . |
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Truth4Justice (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
166. Perhaps US is "crazier" then most, as we have no healthcare for the uninsured, or underpaid . |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. You're asking people to think |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. There is sick, and then there is SICK. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Yeah |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
131. I'll take a wild guess and say Schizo-Affective Disorder. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. We have to keep trying because ignorance doesn't help us --- |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank you, HH. What we need is more focus on HELPING the mentally ill! |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. I can see both sides, but... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Buddy probably had it because he was paranoid |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. :His state" was probably the reason he was carrying the knife |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
103. We don't have states in Canada |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #103 |
158. ! |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #158 |
172. I should learn to read |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm against the death penalty, but once you cross THAT threshold sane or not |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Are you implying that he's proud of himself? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. He didn't even speak, he hasn't even contacted anyone |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Um no quite the opposite judging by the way he looked going to court |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
109. Knowing something is wrong after the act is different than being |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
120. Just because you know you did something wrong doesn't mean you aren't insane |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
105. We already had the guns on bus argument |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
189. I'm sorry 'somenoe on the bus iwth a gun' is not the answer. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. I was told on here he should be killed even if he IS mentally ill |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. Can We PLEASE NOT DE-STIGMATIZE CUTTING OFF SOMEONE'S FREAKIN HEAD? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. We're not de-stigmatizing anything |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Aw, Come On |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's just different degrees of mental illness |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. wrong spot |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. If he was schozophrenic.. |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. being on meds does not mean being stable. Trying to be, yes, |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. yup |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. You are very lucky. My son getsl little to no relief from OCD, the |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
128. There's a good clinic at UBC for OCD |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
167. Actually, it doesn't |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #167 |
211. In Canada |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
263. Disparaging???.........he cut of a kid's HEAD ! |
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ZenKitty (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
88. He not only cut off his head but he canabalized him... |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
210. Legal definition of criminally insane |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. that man didn't need to be out in society if he was that unstable |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Oh, I agree completely |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is the first thread on the subject |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's what our right-wing Supreme Court and neo-cons have been teaching them . .!!! |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
55. I can't imagine what the family expecting to see their beautiful young son is going through now,. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Strawman. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Wow, that was........ dumb |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Someone who hacks off a strangers head on a bus...isn't a freakl? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Yeah, I guess I am |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No control over stopping himself from hacking a kid's head off? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yes, and do you really think someone who was mentally ill |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
95. And do you understand that if someone can't control the urge to hack off a person's head.... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
112. See where you're making the disconnect |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #112 |
175. I'm not licking my chops. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. If you had actually read the thread, you would have seen he's been agreeing with this all along |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
117. The question mark at the end of your statement shows that you |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. It's the curse of libertarian-capitalist "personal responsibillity" thinking. |
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Truth4Justice (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #117 |
163. Same reason they don't see chronic illness. They don't see the pain that many unseen illnesses have. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. Oh cry me a river. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. I agree he shouldn't be roaming the streets |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
264. And you don't know that he didn't. None of us do |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
114. Please define 'freak'. I can't see this as anything but a slur word. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #114 |
126. freak=cutting off heads |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. He's not the victim of a decapitation, but he is the victim of |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #129 |
173. And a dog doesn't ask for Rabies either. But when it happens you have to deal with it. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #173 |
218. That's a terrible thing to say |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #173 |
269. You put a dog down if it has rabies, because that's self-defense |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
113. 'freak' . Lovely. Just lovely. Thriving on fear will not resolve |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #113 |
186. Fear Of Expressing Emotions |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
122. The ignorance in this post is astounding -- as well as the callousness |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #122 |
177. No...Callousness is hacking off a kid's head with a knife. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #177 |
197. No, that's mental illness,a nd reports released today prove I and many other posters are right |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #197 |
212. I just hope a loved ones head isn't hacked off by a freak. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #212 |
247. Please link to any post I made where I defend the killer |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #197 |
265. I do hope you agree he needs to be in a locked down mental health prison somewhere. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #122 |
187. The NAZIS Were Criminally Insane |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
261. I hate people who argue like you. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
59. Sorry, I support the death penalty |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Do you not understand that this guy |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Oh, I'm fully aware of that! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Then you're a barbarian. Should we kill people with DS too? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. It's not hatred. It's logic. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Yes, so lock him up |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. Any person who kill another person is mentally ill |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. You can't even make a comparison like that |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
141. I see no difference |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #141 |
154. He didn't know he was taking it away |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #154 |
184. He did it, so that is immaterial |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #184 |
198. Again: the Nazis killed the mentally ill -- civilized nations don't do that |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #198 |
219. Godwin's law |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #219 |
248. That's not applicable, because they DID kill the mentally ill, which you are suggesting we do |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #248 |
251. Godwin's Law, dude. You lost your argument by going there. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #251 |
252. Godwin's Law is not applicable here |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #252 |
260. BWAHAHAHAHA |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #154 |
267. I feel your frustration with this person. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
127. You can have your own opinion but not your own facts |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. "It's logic"? Sorry, but your "reasoning" is not logical at all. n/t |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #70 |
168. No, it's not |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
104. Don't bother HeyHey |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. Wow |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
125. You do realize the Nazis killed the mentally ill? |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #125 |
146. The difference being that the Nazis killed them merely for being mentally ill |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #64 |
174. Yes, DP for all mentally ill. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
188. Executing the mentally ill? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
123. If Liu is mentally ill, then he didn't murder anyone, just like Andrea Yates |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
262. People like you deserve the country you get. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. Either we recognize this as NORMAL behavior ..... do we? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. And Some Of Us Are Saying ... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. I'm not lumping him in at all |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
124. Things really aren't that neat at all. Even in the behavior of one individual, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
133. I'm glad you agree that he's "insane" . . . cause that's the point . . . |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #80 |
169. It's a difference of degrees |
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Tindalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's good to hear a voice of reason on this topic |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
73. The vast majority of mentally-ill people don't go around killing people |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. What does that have to do with anything? |
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mokawanis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. After 10 years of working in a psychiatric hospital |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
136. You cannot -- nor should anyone ever suggest --- that this guy would |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
142. I agree that with rights come responsibilities |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
76. Can he stay with you while he goes to rehab? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. He doesn't belong in prison |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Hopefully locked in. n/t |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. I imagine he will be |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #81 |
191. Forever +10 years |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #76 |
171. rehab is for addicts, not sick people |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
87. I've read this whole thread. |
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ZenKitty (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I have a problem with people that eat other people!! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. And I have a problem with the American news reporting unnamed sources that the Canadians aren't. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Who knows? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Why don't we wait for the FACTS! It may take a bit but they'll eventually come out. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. True, we should wait for the FACTS. n/t |
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ZenKitty (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Well, I apologize... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Welcome to DU... |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. AP isn't verboten |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
119. Hard to say on that one |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
108. Well, of course he looked alone... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. THey do in afghanistan |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
140. Maybe he was planning on taking the bus all the way to there... |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
194. OK. Now that's funny. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
130. If he just happened to be carrying a butcher-sized knife with him |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. Welcome to DU, casey. I hope you're not packing. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #130 |
153. yeah |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
135. The bigotry against the mentally ill in this thread is disgusting. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
143. I have both OCD and Schizophrenia in my family. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. IIRC, he also changed seats which placed him beside the small, sleeping victim |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. But there's a difference between being unconscious and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. My ex used to do things that would curl your hair |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #147 |
205. Good point sfexpat. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #205 |
227. I don't know but hope so, too. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
144. Unfortunately, despite the cliche, mental illness is rarely a"private hell" |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #144 |
151. Mitchum, I like ya,dude, but I take offense to that |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #151 |
222. My apologies.... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. No worries, dude |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #144 |
161. Nobody believes you, nobody can explain what's going on |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
150. Yeah, I feel bad for the guy. All that slashing, stabbing, hacking, |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. not asking for pity as much as understanding |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #152 |
156. People don't get the difference between understanding something |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #156 |
157. And thank you |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #156 |
183. "To Understand, Is to Forgive" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #183 |
192. If that were true, it would be impossible to study crime or |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #150 |
180. You know, I'm kinda glad you posted this... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #150 |
200. The mentally ill are NOT "perdators," ie sosicopaths |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
155. Man, after all this |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #155 |
185. I Get it, I Just Don't Think It's Inappropriate |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #185 |
216. Society doesn't need to re-enforce how awful .... |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
159. What happened is way beyond fucked up |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #159 |
203. I want him sent back to his home country...they say he was having |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
160. I respect what you're trying to here, but I'm not buying this approach completely. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #160 |
165. I hate to say it, but I know what I'm going to use this for |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #160 |
181. Suicide by cop? That happens in LA, not Canada. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
162. Love the polar bear!! |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
164. But... |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
190. Hi HEyHEy |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #190 |
213. He will have one appointed |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
193. In his native China, mental illness is considered shameful...... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #193 |
206. I read much the same thing. I was also disturbed to read that the father |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
195. I'm not sure if he was mentally ill or if he had an intense craving to eat human flesh. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. I guess they didn't shot him because the victim was already dead? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. I thought I read that they locked him up in the bus with the dead victim |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
202. he stabbed the guy to death, decapitated him and then gutted |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #202 |
214. It is repulsive, yes, but this guy is not sound of mind |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
208. Wow. Amazing amount of ignorance about mental health issues in this thread. |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
209. He should not be killed. Minimum life in prison tho. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. PLease don't call him a sick fuck |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. Ok then, the evil fuck. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #220 |
221. "Had fun" |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #221 |
257. Except he tried to escape and drive the bus |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #220 |
224. Yeah, this is rising to Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees level of evil fuck. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #224 |
228. You can't POSSIBLY be serious? |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Yes I'm serious. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #230 |
232. I don't know why this is hard for you to get |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. All the more reason to lock him away forever. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. you have so much hatred in you - I'm sorry. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. No hatred. Just sense. Some people have to be seperated from the rest of us, |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #240 |
242. I don't have illusions and I haven't alluded to him needing a hug |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #236 |
245. Your ID is sooo transparent, you know |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #245 |
249. My ID means Momma. In wolf hierarchy the alphafemale is Momma. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #224 |
244. Why are some people on here so willfully ignoranmt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #220 |
243. He's not a sociopath, he'e mentally ill |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #243 |
256. He tried to escape after comitting the murder |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
226. Are any killers sane? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #226 |
229. Yep. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #226 |
231. There's a difference between shooting someone in a botched robbery |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #231 |
233. A difference to whom? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. Motives, mental state |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. If the diagnosis is poor impulse control... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. probably had the knife because of his condition. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #237 |
241. Once on Christmas Eve, my ex stormed out of our room |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #233 |
268. Are you really saying you can't tell the difference between |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #226 |
246. Sociopaths are totally sane, and most killers are sociopaths, not mentally ill |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #246 |
258. Most killing is done in the heat of a moment |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
253. It seems part of the human condition |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
259. I have considered this myself... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
266. Hope He Never Sees The Light Of Day Again. |
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