Breaking - attempted assassination of Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman

[malaise]

He's critical in hospital. On CNN now.

[sinkingfeeling]

1. You're kidding! I just had an email from him this morning!

[Virginia Dare]

2. WTF?????......n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. Any more on Who, what, when, where?

I'm not watching TV.

[my2sense]

4. Suspect

has been shot....white male in his 40's.

[backscatter712]

23. First rule of assassination:

Kill the assassin.

:tinfoilhat:

[malaise]

26. Note my headline

:tinfoil:

[malaise]

6. White male shot him three times

He was shot by police and they are attempting to revive him and airlift to hospital.

sp.

[cynatnite]

8. Here is a link...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_on_re_us/democratic_party_shooting

[sinkingfeeling]

5. They're talking about Bill Gwatney?

[malaise]

9. Yes

He was shot three times.

[sinkingfeeling]

12. Oh my God! This is insane!

[spanone]

7. are we seeing the beginning of a civil war....the right against the left? rush must be proud

[H2O Man]

13. It is getting ugly.

Things can spin out of control rapidly.

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. I'm looking at an Arkansas station blogg

I'm not sure if the gunman is dead, I hope he lives
to see what the motive was.

[malaise]

28. CNN says the gunman is not dead n/t

[H2O Man]

74. Morning news .....

It is being reported that the gunman had just been fired from his job.

We are entering a strange time.

[billyoc]

19. Don't get my hopes up. Probably just a jealous husband.

[Greyskye]

20. WTF?

:wtf: You want a civil war? :wtf:

[billyoc]

24. You can always sit it out if you want, gramps.

;)

[Greyskye]

31. FOAD, child.

[peacetalksforall]

21. Why did you say that - jealous husband?

[billyoc]

22. Statistics.

[davidnc76]

10. The loons are out in full force this election season.

[Snotcicles]

11. I'll bet it was done by another g-damn, gun-rack corn-pone. nt

[JVS]

14. oh shit

[Cleita]

15. I wonder how many other hits have been ordered by

the neo-cons for this election season.

[malaise]

17. I'm more worried that the suspect may die

and we won't get the truth. Get well Bill Gwatney!
Stay safe Dems - these loons are desperate.

[Cleita]

35. Yes, because this is a typical M/O of assassination by proxy.

Find someone who is malcontented and a little mentally unbalanced. Convince him to act on his feelings by encouraging him and maybe funding him for his weapons and other needs. Give him a little backup in case he misses, then stand back and let him take the fall. If he isn't killed outright so he can't talk, finish the job off later. The Nazis perfected this way of doing things and we have adapted their methods. I hope the authorities have the sense to really protect this guy until he can be debriefed and tell us who is behind him.

[MotorCityMan]

37. It sounds like you are describing the "Sear's Tower Terrorists"

This is creepy. I hope Obama has good Secret Service protection.

[Cleita]

44. Go back as far as the Kennedy assassination.

I'm sure Oswald was selected to be the patsy. No one has been able to satisfactorily explain to this day how this was accomplished by only one gun man. They had to make sure he didn't live to talk. It goes back to the Riechstag fire. The Nazis found a patsy in a mentally unstable communist who bragged while drunk about wanting to set the Riechstag on Fire. They encouraged him and even helped him. Of course he was arrested and blamed for the whole thing and executed. Hitler was thereby able to get emergency, dictatorial, powers that he never let go of until he died.

[malaise]

51. CNN reporting that the suspect is dead

My oh my!

[Cleita]

55. Yes, and then they will report that he is a nut case, which is probably true,

and that he acted alone. Case closed. There won't be an investigation to find out if there is more to this since the shooter has been silenced.

[Dreamer Tatum]

58. "probably" a nutcase?

He shot someone. He IS a nutcase.

[Cleita]

63. Wow, off topic but this is your 666 post.

Congratulations, I think. LOL

[Gidney N Cloyd]

71. Hinkley came to my mind... nt

[malaise]

38. That is my real worry n/t

[tekisui]

49. A local blog has unconfirmed reports

that both Gwatney and the shooter have died. Unconfirmed, hopefully not true on both accounts.

[malaise]

67. OMFG

CNN confirmed the shooter's death but I hope they're wrong about Gwatney.

[tekisui]

68. I think they must be wrong about Gwatney.

I hope they are. I would think we would have heard by now had it been true.

[malaise]

70. Well they're covering everything else

but that shooting.

[Blue_Tires]

16. i wonder what books the shooter has on his/her shelf...

[madinmaryland]

18. Link and story from CNN..

CNN) -- One person was shot Wednesday at the Little Rock, Arkansas, headquarters of the state Democratic Party, police said.

The Arkansas Democratic Party said the chairman, Bill Gwatney, was hospitalized after the shooting, CNN affiliate KTHV reported. Little Rock police would not confirm or deny whether Gwatney was shot.

Little Rock police Lt. Terry Hastings said that the victim was in critical condition at the hospital.

The suspect, who fled the scene after the shooting in a pickup truck, led police on a chase into Grant County before being shot, Hastings said. Hastings did not release the suspect's name, what condition he was in or where he was shot, saying the investigation was ongoing.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/13/arkansas.shooting/index.html

[malaise]

25. Apparently the suspect shot up a Baptist Church four blocks away before being shot

Damn, damn, damn!

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. A Baptist Church?

I wonder if it was a white or black church? Anything on that?

[malaise]

32. Not yet n/t

[onenote]

59. it wasn't a Baptist "church", It was the Ark. Baptist State Convention

An organization ancillary to the Baptist churches in Ark.

http://www.absc.org/p/1093/Default.aspx

[Ichingcarpenter]

64. Thanks...... any connections on why he

had an outburst at that place first, where both connected to that place?

[MGKrebs]

30. Coincidentally,

Another headline today from KTHV:

"A federal appeals panel Wednesday upheld the weapons conviction of Hollis Wayne Fincher, who was leader of the Washington County Militia.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Fincher was not protected by the Second Amendment because he was not part of a well-regulated state militia, even though Fincher had written numerous officials seeking sanction. The court also ruled that possession of a machine gun and a sawed-off shotgun were not protected because they are not weapons that law-abiding would have for lawful purposes. "

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=70760&catid=2

[jsamuel]

33. Washington county is where Fayetteville is, not Little Rock

just fyi

[Dr.Phool]

34. In the comments section of the article.

Not much credibility, but,

The shooter was rumored to have been laid off by Gwatney Chevrolet.

[Ichingcarpenter]

41. I know plenty of people that get pissed off at Car dealers

We have a crooked GM dealer in town that sells bad lemons
that look like new cars and then he won't back up his warranty.

I saw the dealership angle too...... I hope we find out.

[Marr]

36. Anyone know what Arkansas' local right-wing radio hosts have been talking about lately?

Have they been demonizing the man who ended up being shot? Just curious.

[lldu]

40. Update

Aparently the man did NOT shoot up another place, but did accost some people at the Baptist Center. He aimed a gun, but did not fire.

Then he leaves and goes to the Democratic Headquarters and barges in and shoots Chairman Gwatney.

No idea if the shooter is dead or alive. He has been apprehended, but has been shot in the process and is being medivaced to a hospital.

Gwatney is critically injured.

The Governor has returned from the NW portion of the state and is at the hospital with the family.

I came back from lunch and the street was being blocked off by police and police cars and paramedics were all over the place. I work just about a block down from that building. The police were already taping the place off. Myself and a coworker, at that time the victim was unknown, thought that Chairman Gwatney may have been the target.

Pray for Mr Gwatney and his family.

[Ichingcarpenter]

42. Thanks for the local update!

Do you know anything about the Baptist Center?

[lldu]

45. no, just that he went in and scared some people and left. NT

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. Is the Baptist Center predominately white, black or mixed?

What kind of place is it?

[Dreamer Tatum]

57. Does it really matter?

Would one be better than another somehow?

[Ichingcarpenter]

62. Don't you know? And yes it does matter

one way or another.

[onenote]

61. Link

http://www.absc.org/p/1093/Default.aspx

[malaise]

43. Thanks for the update

CNN has decided this is not important enough.

[lib2DaBone]

39. Wait until the Dem Natl Convention....

The Republicans will plant undercover Police and Provocateurs.. do anything they can to start trouble and disrupt the convention. Faux News and CNN will be on hand to immediately broadcast the pre-planned disturbance.

Just like Bush's Buddies did in Canada last year....
<snip> Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.Police came under fire Tuesday, when a video surfaced on YouTube that appeared to show three plainclothes police officers at the protest with bandannas across their faces. One of the men was carrying a rock.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2007/08/police_admit_going_undercover.html

[MGKrebs]

46. Witness claims the guy said he lost his job.

"THV's Charles Crowson reports that shortly before the shooting at the Democratic headquarters, a man fitting the description of the shooting suspect threatened workers at the Arkansas State Baptist Convention headquarters located several blocks away. Business manager Dan Jordan says a man with a gun told another manager that he'd just lost his job. Crowson reports the man pointed a gun at a security guard, but didn't fire."

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=70759#comments

[lpbk2713]

47. This clown was probably doing his part to support OxyRush's Operation Chaos.

Why Limbaugh hasn't been arrested for his hatemongering and inciting violence yet is beyond me.

[Cleita]

54. Haven't you heard?

He has First Amendment rights, so he can say any toxic thing he wants to with impunity. I really wish there were laws to contain his kind of hate mongering.

[mzmolly]

50. Horrible.

I will be sending thoughts and prayers to him and his family.

[AlCzervik]

52. cnn is reporting that the suspected shooter is now dead.

[angstlessk]

53. CNN just reported the suspect has died...n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

56. AP is reporting the shooter has died.

[malaise]

60. CNN believes Cindy McCain's hand strain is more breaking than

three gunshots to Bill Gwatney. These people are sick.

[onenote]

65. don't have cable in my office, but cnn.com has led with the Ark shooting for hours

[malaise]

66. That shooting should be receiving non-stop coverage.

We have had no updates.

[Catherine Vincent]

69. Did the shooter leave a note behind?

[Qutzupalotl]

72. Successful.

:cry:

[dgibby]

73. Gwatney dead

According to CNN, Bill Gwatney has died. The Clintons have issued a statement as has Howard Dean. The suspect has also died. Police at the time did not know of any personal connection between the two men, but the investigation is underway and ongoing. Sad for the families of both. No known motive at present, except that suspect told people at the Baptist Convention center that he had lost his job. Not known what the job was or if that was the motive.

[malaise]

75. Isn't the lack of media attention on this one

troubling?

[Blue_Tires]

76. i was about to mention that

peeked in on CNN last night, and it was all Edwards / Corsi