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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:28 PM
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Email from Michael Moore
Dear Caroline,

We've never met, so I hope you don't find this letter too presumptuous or inappropriate. As its contents involve the public's business, I am sending this to you via the public on the Internet. I knew your brother John. He was a great guy, and I know he would've had a ball during this thrilling and historic election year. We all miss him dearly.

Barack Obama selected you to head up his search for a vice presidential candidate. It appears we may be just days (hours?) away from learning who that choice will be.

The media is reporting that Senator Obama has narrowed his alternatives to three men: Joe Biden, Evan Bayh and Tim Kaine. They're all decent fellows, but they are far from the core of what the Obama campaign has been about: Change. Real change. Out with the old. And don't invade countries that pose no threat to us.

Senators Biden and Bayh voted for that invasion and that war, the war Barack ran against, the war Barack reminded us was the big difference between him and Senator Clinton because she voted for the war and he spoke out against it while running for Senate (a brave and bold thing to do back in 2002).

For Obama to place either of these senators on the ticket would be a huge blow to the millions that chose him in the primaries over Hillary. He will undercut one of the strongest advantages he has over the Hundred-Year War senator, Mr. McCain. By anointing a VP who did what McCain did in throwing us into this war, Mr. Obama will lose the moral high ground in the debates.

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.

I cannot think of a more winning ticket than one that reads: "OBAMA-KENNEDY."

Caroline, I know that nominating yourself is the furthest idea from your mind and not consistent with who you are, but there would be some poetic justice to such an action. Just think, eight years after the last head of a vice presidential search team looked far and wide for a VP -- and then picked himself (a move topped only by his hubris to then lead the country to near ruin while in office) -- along comes Caroline Kennedy to return the favor with far different results, a vice president who helps restore America to its goodness and greatness.

Caroline, you are one of the most beloved and respected women in this country, and you have been so admired throughout your life. You chose a life outside of politics, to work for charities and schools, to write and lecture, to raise a wonderful family. But you did not choose to lead a private life. You have traveled the world and met with its leaders, giving you much experience on the world stage, a stage you have been on since you were a little girl.

The nation has, remarkably (considering our fascination with celebrity), left you alone and let you live your life in peace. (It's like, long ago, we all collectively agreed that, with her father tragically gone, a man who died because he wanted to serve his country, we would look out for her, we would wish for her to be happy and well, and we would have her back. But we would let her be.)

Now, I am breaking this unwritten code and asking you to come forward and help us in our hour of need. So many families are hurting, losing their homes, going bankrupt with health care bills, seeing their public schools in shambles and living with this war without end. This is a historic year for women, from Hillary's candidacy to the numerous women running for the House and Senate. This is the year that a woman should be on the Democratic ticket. This is the year that both names on that ticket should be people OUTSIDE the party machine. This is the year millions of independents and, yes, millions of Republicans are looking for something new and fresh and bold (and you are the Kennedy Republicans would vote for!).

This is the moment, Caroline. Seize it! And Barack, if you're reading this, you probably know that she is far too humble and decent to nominate herself. So step up and surprise us again. Step up and be different than every politician we have witnessed in our lifetime. Keep the passion burning amongst the young people and others who have been energized by your unexpected, unpredicted, against-all-odds candidacy that has ignited and inspired a nation. Do it for all those reasons. Make Caroline Kennedy your VP. "Obama-Kennedy." Wow, does that sound so cool.

Caroline, thanks for letting me intrude on your life. How wonderful it will be to have a vice president who will respect the Constitution, who will support (instead of control) her president, who will never let her staff out a CIA agent, and who will never tell her country that she is "currently residing in an undisclosed location."

Say it one more time: "OBAMA-KENNEDY." A move like that might send a message to the country that the Democrats would actually like to win an election for once.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com


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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:40 PM
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1. That would be the coolest ticket ever. Way to go, Michael!
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:43 PM
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3. It felt like hope
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:42 PM
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2. No greater admirer of Michael Moore here on DU. But this? Uh, no.
"You chose a life outside of politics." Yes, she did.

Michael is a little insulated now, although his heart is in the right place. But this is a nonstarter.

Good grief.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:46 PM
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4. agree
:)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:50 PM
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19. Yup.
There are people who are famous. And there are people who are famous for their work and deeds.

CK is the latter.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:56 PM
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5. Never hurts to ask
Mr. Obama, by choosing any of the three men he's evidently narrowed it down to, has shown that he's not interested in "change".

Caroline Kennedy would be an outstanding VP. She would also singlehandedly show the world that the USA is serious about change and serious about mending our tattered reputation around the world.

Julie
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:01 PM
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6. I think this is silly. Also, it is a conflict of interest for a member of the veep selection
committee to pick him or herself. Oh, oops, that's what Cheney did.

I like Michael Moore too, but I can't see that Caroline Kennedy has any qualifications whatsoever except the family name and being a lawyer.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:12 PM
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10. Any qualifications - I bet she's read every book around on politics since the time
her father was murdered. She is also an author and co-author - of a book on privacy. She has always struck me as a behind the scenes person who knows what is going on up-front where all the scenes are in progress. The Kennedy era family that she fits into is probably the most politically minded family in the country. They devour poltics. I think she is as brainy as Obama. And she is subtle and classy. What a breath of fresh air.

I love the idea and I vote for her. She would make me feel very comfortable as a person who would represent the little people.

I'm with you Michael.

She is my dream candidate, next to Al Gore and Sen. Feingold. (However, I don't want Al to only be a VP, unless someone helps me figure out why and how he should be.)

Michael, I've held a grievance against you ever since you supported Nader. All is forgiven for just writing that letter.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:23 PM
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16. Caroline is a human being; something Bush and Cheney don't seem to be ---
and their qualifications? Warmongering? Deceit/evil intent all over the planet!!

This is what change would be about --- !!!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:32 PM
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20. And the President that we have had for the last eight years
Has had exactly what qualifications??


But in any case, Caroline Kenenedy is well aware of what happened to her family and she is not about to become the next target of a bullet or a disappearing plane.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:05 PM
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7. If Obama picks either Biden or Bayh, even if he wins, he loses. n/t
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:43 PM
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12. Your'e right, at least in this household, my vote goes to Scoobie-Doo.
Why is this campaign looking for a proven rustler to ride herd? America will vote for change. Why throw your energy into sameness or a return to sameness? The progressives have lost the last two electiions by backing blue dogs and encouraging a nose pickin wanna be with no spine to slink into ignominy by simply losing a fight with a dull knife. Change, people will vote for Scoobie-Doo because he's personable, honest and trustworthy.

I will not vote for a ticket that includes Birch Bayh's son. I know that Obama's Daley machine reads DU and though it is only one vote, if it's Biden or Bayh they should realize that one vote vote will go to Pat Paulsen or Scoobie-Doo........maybe Ron Paul, you write in a vote with public ink.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:06 PM
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8. Mike is great. But this is a swing and a miss. (n/t)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:07 PM
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9. I certainly like it.
But would Caroline?
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:14 PM
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11. I like it. But it probably won't happen. Recommended. n/t
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:25 PM
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13. great spirit, but no...
inexperience will be the big gop push toward the end of this election. trust me. (don't flame me, i don't believe that, i just notice what they are up to.)

caroline is a wonderful woman and kennedy is a great name, but that ticket would not be strong enough in the states we really need help with. and it would play into a gop game that could lose us an election.

michael. make movies. that is what you do, and you do it well.

but stay out of this. its a different profession all together...





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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:24 PM
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17. I disagree, he's never made a loser.
MM has his finger on the pulse and it's more sensitive than ours...I would vote for Caroline if for nothing more than the poetic justice of it all. After all, look at our choices and our party's motives. Feel a bit grimy? Nothing grimy about Caroline, think about it, good clean righteous feel, no?

I would so like to feel clean and righteous about my country again. MM knows myself, himself and yourself well enough that he trusts you to go to the light, the feel good, the right thing to do.

And it would be both a vote-getter and a safety net for Obama. Who would want to boff Obama with Caroline waiting in the wings? You can't make that claim with a Clinton or Clinton Clone.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:38 PM
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18. "I would so like to feel clean"...
that alone won your argument over mine.

i just post my opinions. i love yours...

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:03 AM
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22. "I would so like to feel clean."
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 12:04 AM by calimary
WONDERFUL, fla nocount!

What a statement. I think EVERYONE on this board (well, give or take a few passing trolls) can say that once more with FEELING!!!

Shout it from the rooftops is more like it.

:applause:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:55 PM
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21. Very well said.
How can you change direction when you run with the same old same olds?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:32 AM
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28. "...I would so like to feel clean and righteous about my country again..."
Me too.

But if that isn't in the cards this time around, what are you prepared to do?

We still have to win, even if we don't feel good about it.

"Feeling clean" isn't a priority. SCOTUS, Iraq, the economy, the environment, the mortgage crisis, the Constitution, New Orleans, the Justice Department...those are the priorities. How we feel while we go about these tremendous labors can't come into play, because then it becomes all about us instead of being all about the country and the Constitution, and that's no way to run a railroad, I'm afraid.

:hug:

"Politics is a long, shallow, plastic trench where the whores run free and good men die like dogs." - Hunter S. Thompson

Yup.

Bedtime.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:28 AM
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30. Goodnight, Sweet Caroline. n/t
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:42 PM
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14. He isn't being serioous with this Caroline recommendation, but he is using that to make good points
about the other suggested possibilities. The actual name that follows from his reasoning is Clark, as I've said all along.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:20 PM
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15. What a fantastic idea --- !!! I was saying Obama/Kennedy, but I meant Ted . . .
Caroline would be super --- !!!

Listen to Mike, Obama . . . !!!

Caroline, I doubt, would be interested --- but it is an excellent idea ---
and most of our solutions come from left field --- from "out of the blue" ---
this would be one of those solutions!

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:04 AM
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23. I think everyone could jump on board with that idea.
There'd be no stopping them.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:49 AM
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24. love this idea n/t
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:04 AM
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25. Although it is a sweet suggestion, you have to remember they are a heartbeat away from #1 spot
Caroline being President makes me a tad uneasy because of her lack of experience.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:16 AM
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26. Hes spot on
Hes spot on as usual
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:26 AM
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27. I'm pretty sure Clinton and her people will go over-the-moon batshit crazy with rage
...if Obama picks a woman other than her. Full disclosure: I base this on nothing other than a tingling in my Spidey-Senses...which could just be me needing to pee or something, so...grain of salt. Two, actually.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:04 AM
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29. I'm sure that there's a few fence straddlers that would enjoy seeing
that crowd going bat-shit crazy and would applaud watching that cow jump over the moon. I haven't been on the streets door to door for a candidate since the 2002 gubernatorial campaign, this ticket would get me out of my chair.

Rage is good, it puts color in your cheeks.
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 07:16 AM
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31. I still think it's silly. Now I'm moving on to other topics. You all are
entitled to your opinion; I'm entitled to mine.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 07:19 AM
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32. You know I gave this some thought from she joined the
Obama camp.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:28 AM
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33. That person, Caroline, is you.
I got chills when I read that. The good kind. :D
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:17 AM
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34. My problem with Caroline at this moment is that she has obviously
vetted these three men, who have the problems listed by Michael Moore. I am not sure that any of them will really help Obama win. As it stands now, he needs a lot of help to win. If he does not, the country and the world are in for enormous damage. McCain may be worse than Bush and I never dreamed that could be possible, but McCain is a warmonger with a temper who obviously dislikes women and intends to put more conservative justices on the Supreme Court.
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