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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:10 PM
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GOP Rocker Ted Nugent on Teenage Pregnancy
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 PM by Prefer
"Children of single parents have a much higher likelihood of getting involved in crime and drugs, and of dropping out of school.

When attending my son's basketball games, I am appalled at the sight of teenage girls toting babies in their arms. An inordinate number of these teen moms are black. These young women are obviously not emotionally or financially equipped to provide for their young children. The problem is so significant that some high schools provide day care at taxpayers' expense. When babies are having babies, something has gone terribly wrong.
...
Black America can and must do better. History will judge accordingly. May God be with us.
"

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/opinion/stories/nugent/02242008_wac_nugent.html
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 PM
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1. Ted Nugent has been as asshole for a very long time....
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 PM
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2. He's got a point...
Something *has* gone terribly wrong.

Thankfully, I think we have somebody who can begin to turn around this trainwreck over the next 4 years.
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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:43 PM
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19. I'm seeing about 25 responses crucifying the messenger while completely ignoring the validity of
the observation. I find that extremely interesting...and perhaps of some explanation..of why we have such trouble winning elections. What do you think?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:57 PM
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28. I think I smell Pizza! n/t
Or racism. Not sure.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:58 PM
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29. Why is his observation limited to black babies?
You don't find that interesting?
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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:06 PM
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30. Interesting only to the extent it was mentioned by Barack Obama.
What he says about it is good enough for me.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:11 PM
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32. "We have trouble winning elections" LOL
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:21 PM
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35. We have trouble attracting the voting machine suppliers vote.
WHY can't the democrats get nthrough this VITAL demographic???? ;)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:00 PM
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46. What is with all the bigot posts tonight?
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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:13 PM
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3. Well, Senator Obama said the same thing. I think he was right.
I don't know anything about Rocker Ted except he used to play guitar pretty well about 50 years ago...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:17 PM
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11. Um, Nugent's a major right-wing, ignorant, racist asshole hypocrite nutcase.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:17 PM by Hissyspit
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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:25 PM
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14. He is indeed but that doesn't mean he can't be right about something.
Obama has articulated much the same complaint...and it's one of the reasons I support him. I don't care what Nugent says, I just object to throwing out a concept that is right because an asshole happened to say it. Doesn't that strike you as...republican?
Check Barack's own website where he agrees
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/family/
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:42 PM
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18. He only bitched about black pregnancies. Palin's daughter is white.
He is a racist asshole hypocrite and offers NO solutions, only racist ranting.


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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:46 PM
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22. Yes, that's true. So what is the solution? Apparently you have one, yes?
??
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:48 PM
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24. I didn't open up my fat racist mouth for the national press to make a bigoted point, now did I?
Enjoy your stay here.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:56 PM
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26. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:46 PM
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23. Ding! We have a winner!
Thank you for summing that up so succinctly, Hissyspit.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:29 PM
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43. Children conceiving children is not a good idea regardless of race.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:58 PM
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45. Didn't say it was, did I?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 10:00 PM by Hissyspit
Actually that was my point. Asshole Nugent only cares when it's black children having children.

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:37 PM
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16. I believe you left out misogynist. n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:43 PM
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20. Yes, thank you.
I was typing quickly.
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ThePhoenix Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:28 PM
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15. I don't know anything about Rocker Ted
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:55 PM by ThePhoenix
This Is Ted Nugent.

The World According to Ted Nugent
http://www.nocompromise.org/news/000731c.html

ON MILITARY SERVICE
He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. "... but if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd killed all the hippies in the foxholes...I would have killed everybody." - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990


ON WOMEN
"Anybody that doesn't think it is better to blow someones brains out than to be raped, deserves to be raped! If you don't think your life is worth it then please go out there, don't wear any underpants and get RAPED!! Cuz you deserve it ..." - WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 23, 1991

About Hillary Clinton: "You probably can't use the term 'toxic cunt' in your magazine, but that's what she is. Her very existence insults the spirit of individualism in this country. This bitch is nothing but a two-bit whore for Fidel Castro." - Westword Newspaper , Denver, Colorado, July 27, 1994
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draftedin66 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:38 PM
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17. Well that description of Hillary isn't far removed from what I've noticed in this forum lately.
I guess it's a matter of personal preference. :-)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:44 PM
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21. No, it's a matter of the right-wing's hypocrisy. n/t
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:16 PM
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41. Hello and welcome ThePhoenix
:hi:

and It's always hard to spell phoenix for me, for some reason.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:13 PM
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4. Oh please.
So I guess the Bush kids are just exceptions to the rule.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:13 PM
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5. Ted Nugent should have his lips sewn shut
Nah, that's way too good for him.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:14 PM
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6. Where the FUCK does Nugent get off telling Black America what to do? I've been told by
someone who attended a recent show of his that he chants "Fuck Obama" at his concerts. Fuck you, Ted.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:14 PM
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7. I'm curious how he knows what number qualifies as "inordinate" and their race?
I won't hold my breath because I know there is no answer. This is just Nugent, shooting off his RW mouth.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:15 PM
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8. Ted Nugent has slept with his share of teenagers in his time so he should know.

Any of those kids his? Statistically possible.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:21 PM
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34. LOL
I wonder how many he has knocked up
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:15 PM
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9. Doesn't the Nuge make a practice of screwing teenaged girls??
I'm at a complete loss here.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:57 PM
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27. Yes he does. The original article in Spin magazine's online "News" thing ...
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 08:03 PM by ColbertWatcher
...was linked to by <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ted_Nugent&diff=228754352&oldid=228713948|Wikip*dia> and was scrubbed once the link went dead.

But, thanks to a little searching through the internets, I found this:

When Nugent turned 30, in 1978, he began a relationship with a 17-year old Hawaiian girl, Pele Massa, and became her legal guardian to comply with laws pertaining to relationships with minors. This was covered in VH1's 1998 Behind the Music featuring Nugent, and included an interview with Massa.

--Operation Awareness


(EDITED TO ADD)

With a little more snooping, I found out that at the time of Mr. Nugent's "affair" the age of consent in Hawaii was 14. It has since been changed to 16.


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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:16 PM
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10. Is he talking about the teens he's mpregnated?
if not, he should shut up. On second thought he should just shut up.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:19 PM
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12. Well, Ted, maybe places provide care at taxpayers' expense because...
The baby daddies are deadbeat dads like you were after you got some chick pregnant in the 90s, while married and soon after your son's school voted for you as dad of the year?

TlalocW
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:23 PM
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13. Racist pedophile. I'd Love it if Courtney Love would say publically that the Nuge went down on her
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:23 PM by gbrooks
when she was 13. Maybe Larry Flynt can clear that
up since he and Courtney are best buds.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:12 PM
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33. she said it on the Howard Stern show. But she needs to say it again.
Or even write a whole book about it. I'd buy it just to get it on the NYT bestseller list! lol
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:58 PM
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37. I think she's scared of getting on the wrong side of Nuggent. She could end up involuntary suicided
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:55 PM
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25. Ooooh Ted! Ass raped by your own fucking words!!
Oh baby, there is a God after all! :woot:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:10 PM
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31. He's probably just upset because he can't molest them!
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:37 PM
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36. Ted Nugent -- pedophile?
It's not fair to spread these rumors that TED NUGENT IS A PEDOPHILE

I'm sure that if TED NUGENT IS A PEDOPHILE he would be deserving of "Innocent Until Proven Guilty"

Just like our Ghost Detainees on CIA offshore "Rendition Barges"

Meanwhile I think it's best that we be cautious about spreading ideas that TED NUGENT IS A PEDOPHILE
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:02 PM
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39. I don't think anyone is saying Nugent is the kind of pedophile that Limbaugh is ...
...but at least The Nuge is shoppin' 'Merkin!




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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:03 PM
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40. Ted Nuggent is not a, keyword: "Pedophile, incest, rapist, white supremacist, KKK, trailer trash,

Wisconsin Nazi, survivalist"

Don't even imply that.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:13 PM
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48. You spelled Nugent wrong.
The correct spelling would be: Ted Nugent is not a, keyword: Pedophile, incest -- incestuous, rapist, white supremacist, racist, KKK, trailer trash, Wisconsin Nazi, survivalist.

This has been your helpful spelling/grammatical correction for the evening. ;)
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:20 PM
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49. Even mispelled I got the top two places on page one Google for

Ted Nuggent, Pedophile, incest -- incestuous, rapist, white supremacist, racist, KKK, trailer trash, Wisconsin Nazi, survivalist.

I win

:-)
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:00 PM
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38. The Motor City Mad Man went Mad decades ago, please ignore him
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:26 PM
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42. It's not about black and white. It's about green.
And Ted Nugent is a fucktard.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:57 PM
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44. saving that ahole's email, if he gets the boot:
krs@valornet.com

I think he's very lonely.....

no surprise there

lots and lots of anger issues

is it you, John?

PTSD getting to you a little?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:21 PM
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47. Ted is a lyin hypocrite rethug like all the rest
Teenage Pregnancy is only a problem when it happens to poor and especially black kids. Then the holier-than-thou Rethug pharisees condemn them to hell for their sins.

When it happens to rich white republican girls, say one who's mother is the Governor of Alaska and her hubby who makes 120000 a year, its a whole different ballgame, eh??

Kinda like drugs are horrible for democrats but just fine for Rush Limbaugh and the Prezanator in chief.

Republicans are pure scum.
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