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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:29 PM
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Why would Palin want to put her daughter through this much media scrutiny?
I could never put my daughter through something like this no matter how bad I wanted to be VP.

This sounds crazy on its face.

Don
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:31 PM
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1. In all honesty I thought the same myself. Many other questions about this too.
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Stephist Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:31 PM
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2. And again calls into question all of her family values bullshit
Or is that a no-no to bring up as well?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:36 PM
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8. I don't think talking about Facts in an objective sort of way is ever a no-no.
It's only cruel nasty personal insults that should be avoided, so the focus stays on the issues and Family Values IS an issue. Objectivity is the way to go.

There is no need to insult these folks; the facts alone will be enough to make our case.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:32 PM
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3. yeah....in addition to the media scrutiny......
...the poor kid is forced to not only have the kid but to get married to another high school kid just to satisfy the voters. the marriage probably won't last long.

so, hey man, how the heck are you? i need to get back to chicago so we can have another get-together.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:57 PM
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17. No gay marriage though
Never mind these two have a relationship built on sexual intercourse, not love.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:08 PM
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19. hey...it's the same relationship the repub party has with it's voters.....
...the repub party screws its voters and they, in turn, feel they have to marry the party.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:32 PM
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4. I don't think she thought it all out
I believe it's all about Sarah to her.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:11 PM
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25. Bingo! You win the kewpie doll!
It would seem that she'll throw her own daughter under the bus if that's what it takes. Sarah Palin comes first. She isn't known as "Sarah Barracuda" for nothing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:16 PM
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41. Narcissism
Textbook example.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:32 PM
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5. Blind ambition running on basic political Ignorance, plus some disregard for her Family.
The whole "Ends justifies the Means" thing.

In short, very bad judgement.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:33 PM
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6. Because she's pissed at her for getting pregnant
and screwing up mom's political career.

Mom may not even be aware she's doing it.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:34 PM
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7. That to me is
a much bigger issue.

Why would someone who is supposedly all about family and family values want to subject their pregnant teenage daughter to the media frenzy that is now unfolding.

Ambition before family should not be a conservative family value. But just watch the conservatives rally around this decision.

I really really feel sorry for the daughter. This can't be easy on her.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:37 PM
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9. Another power hungry repug...nuff said.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:04 PM
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37. Please...
Don't compare Daleks to evil!

:rofl:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:50 PM
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44. .....
and here I was thinking they were a match made in heaven.:rofl: :rofl:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:37 PM
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10. I don't get the impression she has ever put family first...
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:38 PM by hlthe2b
Now, clearly, I don't think there is anything wrong with her seeking political office, even with very young kids... But, if I was pursuing statewide office, I'd surely be careful with birth control. I would think I owed it to the people of Alaska to have as much of my time and focus as possible--something a new baby typically makes quite difficult. While I respect those who face the challenges of a Down Sydrome baby with enthusiasm and determination, it doesn't seem she's really that committed to raising him either. Alaskan friends whose comments have been posted here have pointed out that neither mother or father are raising the kids--that they are farming out to parents and family.

So, no.... It doesn't sound like any member of her family is higher than 4th, 5th, 6th, at best, on her priority list. I really think this is all about her--the fading beauty queen--all the time.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:37 PM
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11. It seems like she has a narcistic personality disorder. She threw her daughter under the bus
for her ambition.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:39 PM
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12. So much for those "family values"
If she were a true mother and believed in those values she preaches, she'd be a strong force of support for her daughter at this time, as well as that of her newborn disabled son.

Speaks volumes about what her priorities in life are....
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:45 PM
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30. Well, if my daughter had been a single parent, she could have
received more college loan/aid assistance; just sayin'. Housing aid, daycare, scholarships, grants, Medicaid for all the doctor visits, and on top of that, employers are PAID to hire these young people because they are on assistance, which leaves the parents off the hook, and w/so many kids to educate...well... Meanwhile, responsible single young people have a hard time because they can't get a decent job.

My daughter could have applied for additional college funding if she had been a single adult mom. She just got her BS degree, but when a supervisory position opened up, they chose a single mom with only a HS diploma that had been on-board for only a few months. She didn't last long, but they've yet to post or fill the spot again...go figure.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:39 PM
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13. Palin is a very ignorant person, very unaware of the world.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:40 PM by TexasObserver
How many hours a week do you suppose she has spent watching, worrying about, or thinking about ANY national issues? None? Maybe one? She's your garden variety ignorant backwoods rube. She knows the Old Testament better than she knows the history of the US, of the Constitution. She lives in another world, and the distance between what she knows and what one needs to know to be VP is insurmountable.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:57 PM
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16. Bingo! One of those people who find an "interest" in politics relatively late; has done little or
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 08:00 PM by patrice
observation or thinking.

Politics is something that happened to her as a result of her earlier trajectory it's a way to pay the bills, NOT a commitment to public service.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:40 PM
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14. I know. I keep thinking
about when I was in a similar situation. I was 25, had just graduated from college, with no job and no money, and my fiance had thrown me out of the house when I was three months pregnant. I went home, of course, and mom, although very concerned and thinking that an abortion might be the best thing for my sitution, was unbelievably supportive and loving and supported my ultimate decision to have my son. She was very protective of me, too, especially with others. I can't imagine her doing what Palin's doing, you always put your kids first, period. And the poor girl is a teenager, whereas I was an adult, at least in name at that time. It was bad enough for me and I didn't have the eyes of the whole country on me, I can't imagine what she's dealing with.
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:23 PM
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21. Thanks liberalhistorian...
This really resonates because you went through it as an adult and yet you were still protected by your mom.

I can't imagine what this kid is going through emotionally either. Her parents have outed this child's pregnancy to the country and the world in an effort to get out in front of the story. Shame, shame, shame on Sarah Palin for that.

Where is her urge to protect her child's privacy and dignity? This kid didn't sign on to having the entire world know about her pregnancy.

This woman needs to see to her child's physical, as well as mental, health.


horseshoecrab
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:41 PM
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15. Why would anyone drag a four month old
barefoot baby around on a campaign tour? It seems to me that he would have been much better off at home with his grandmother.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:07 PM
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18. Because babies are cute?
And they make good political props?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:09 PM
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20. THAT'S the part I don't understand
It reads as incredibly selfish to me.

I could never to this to my child, either. Bristol didn't choose a life in the public eye - but here she is, forced to live out a tough time in public.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:32 PM
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22. I wouldn't do it, either
When this came out, I tried to argue this point with an idiodic right winger. I think that Palin's acceptance of McCain's offer shows poor judgment, or worse - blind ambition with no regards for her children's welfare. But then she accused me of being anti-feminist, so I just rolled my eyes and gave up. The right wing's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:58 PM
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23. Seems like a "Momie Dearest" situation to me.
I'll bet her girls will run as fast as they can when they are able to. I don't know about the boys. They probably are mama's darlings. But already it seems that the girl, Bristol, who was selected to be the nannie has gotten herself pregnant and soon to be married. This is a classic, "this is how I get out of this crazy house" move. Yes, I know people think she should go get a job and become independent, but when you live in places that are remote, like Alaska, it isn't always that easy. Well, I have speculated enough about other people's business without even "fly on the wall" credentials so I will move on.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:11 PM
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24. say you're 17 years old. and pregnant. and your mom just
announced this to the fucking world for you. and mom has also told the world you are getting married (even if you don't really want to get married yet)

would you ever talk to mom again? would you be embarrassed and humiliated to death? or would you be okay with everything? i wouldn't.

and the fact that so many of us (me included) have been speculating that sarah is not this baby's mother? if i was that 17 year old i would probably hate my mother for the position/spotlight she threw me into--just to advance her fucking career.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:22 PM
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26. I think right now. She even hates her mom for more
personal reasons.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:09 PM
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38. The parents just took advantage of her to quell an internet rumor
sad
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:10 PM
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40. How do YOU know she doesn't want to get married yet?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:44 PM
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47. i don't.
i guess what i'm thinking is that if she doesn't want to she is in a pretty fucked up position at this moment.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:22 PM
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27. Anybody who goes into public office has got to be nuts
Every twist and move the Bush girls made was reported. Chelsea endured years of insults and innuendo that is still going on. It boggles my mind how anyone could expose their children to the life of politics.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:40 PM
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28. I Wondered
how she could be running for office with a disabled newborn, now this. Yikes! Maybe her question about what the VP does all day was instructive. She has no idea what she is getting herself into.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:40 PM
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29. I Wondered
how she could be running for office with a disabled newborn, now this. Yikes! Maybe her question about what the VP does all day was instructive. She has no idea what she is getting herself into.
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rdublue Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:47 PM
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32. Now I think I know why Bristol is always holding the baby
to hide the new baby coming. In one picture I saw on CNN she was standing holding holding Trig with the blanket spread over her front. Then a side view revealed another story.
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Zero0Maru0 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:46 PM
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31. Sarah Palin is not the mother of Trig. Photo Evidence Provided.
The below website was reported on a thread on Digg, though much fuss hasn't been made surprisingly.

http://palinmotherinlaw.blogspot.com/

It also links to a screenshot of the myspace page the photo was taken from.

And if anyone argues that it's photoshoped, think: Why would the sister of your daughter's boyfriend be holding your baby? Especially when the age gap is more that 20 years and you've probably haven't met beyond 'just seeing you around town'?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:48 PM
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33. Have we considered that perhaps Trig is her eldest son's child?
and maybe his birth mother wasn't up to raising a special needs child?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:48 PM
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34. She is a republican, what else is there to say. nm
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:50 PM
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35. I think she was used to kid gloves treatment from the local press and
had no idea what a storm she was walking into.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:56 PM
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36. it is horrific for this kid. it's one thing to go through it with your family, but the whole world?
i do feel sorry for her.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:09 PM
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39. She isn't. We are.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:16 PM
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42. Elaborate, please.
:shrug:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:27 PM
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43. She couldn't have declined the VP slot because of pressing family issues?
Is that what you are trying to suggest?

Don
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:04 PM
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45. She's doing it to embarrass the girl for embarrassing & disgracing the family image
by getting pregnant. Another whacko fundie 'family value'...

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:07 PM
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46. why would anyone spend millions upon millions to get a job that pays $400K...?
:shrug:
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:52 PM
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48. The Media is the one who is out of control on this. . .
and...didn't Mr. Obama say we should STOP talking about Palin's daughter?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:56 PM
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49. she's a lousy mother and person
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:02 AM
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50. Power. (nt)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:10 AM
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51. She seems pretty willful, sort of like alcoholics I've known before
they stopped drinking and got their brains back. When you're running on that kind of willfulness, you can do a lot of damage. :(
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