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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:23 PM
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"We're going to lose this thing..."
...blogger and screenwriter Adam McKay sounds like a lot of folks on DU.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:24 PM
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1. No.....they are going to steal this thing.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:36 PM
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5. No the democratic leadership already set us up for the dive
gave us two cabalist candidates designed to lose to the repukes and we had to pick one of them. not like they really gave us a choice of a real liberal candidate.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:40 PM
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6. Who is "they"? The progressives who voted against Kucinich in the primary? (nt)
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:21 PM
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12. You are blaming the puppets
while ignoring the men behind the curtain pulling the strings.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:24 PM
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15. I'm a progressive and noone manipulated me into voting against Kucinich in the primary. (nt)
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:28 PM
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19. you sure about that.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 08:33 PM by zonmoy
perhaps you need to look at the messages you received from the media and see where they were moving you too. you might see something you didn't notice before. Or is there no reason to advertise anything on any media because it affects nobody.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:41 AM
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22. 100% positive. But, you appear to understand my point now: "They" are "us". (nt)
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 01:42 AM by w4rma
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:18 PM
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23. The rich cabalists that tell the media what news to report
and what messages to put out to manipulate the electoral system in their favor are us.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:07 PM
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24. Media ownership and funding is my #1 issue. But, that particular "they" are not Democrats. (nt)
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 09:08 PM by w4rma
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:08 PM
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26. True but where do you think the message that liberals cannot win unless they become pale immitations
of conservatives come from. we dont seem to win very much when we try to become republican lite.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:08 AM
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27. Obama is not a "pale imitation" and unlike Kucinich he knows how to run a winning campaign. (nt)
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:47 PM
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8. Real liberal candidates are unelectable.
America ain't a liberal country, sadly. That's just plain old hard fact.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:19 PM
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11. Sure about that or is that what you have heard over the caballist owned and controlled media so long
that everybody believes it.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:22 PM
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13. Yeah, I'm completely ignorant and
manipulated by the media while you possess the wisdom of the ages. :eyes: Even Democrats wouldn't vote Kucinich.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:24 PM
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16. at least I have brains enough to ask
what is really going on and how do we know that the "truths" that we are told are really "truths".
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:28 PM
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17. Me no have brains.
Me total stupid dumb head compare to you.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:26 PM
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2. Why is it so impossible to believe?
These people are dangerous and American voters are stupid.

This is anything but a shoo-in for the Democrats.
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John K Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:32 PM
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3. We better suck it up and get to work.
If we are going to fold like a bad card table the first time that McPalin take a lead in the polls, then we don't deserve to win. All of us who have volunteered for Obama should continue to do that and anyone who hasn't gone out there yet should get out there. Wear your pins, hats and t-shirts proudly - because we are not supporting a set of fake mavericks.
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BPowell Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:50 PM
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9. We also need to get
behind the local registration drives and help get people registered to vote. If they win, it won't be because they stole it. It will be because we lost it by sitting around talking about who's baby it was or what her qualifications are. Non of that really matters if they get more voters to the polls.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:34 PM
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4. Many of you said the same thing in 2006
We won and we're winning this one. Now get to work.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:12 AM
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28. a-fucking-men!
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:29 AM
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29. A-MEN!
K&R just for malaise! :patriot:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:44 AM
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30. "Won" what, exactly? War over? Winning with blue dogs feels a lot like losing. nt
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:51 AM
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31. That was DK's question, too: if we "win" but don't get anything out of it
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 08:53 AM by bean fidhleir
then who REALLY won?

A lot of people at DU don't seem to understand the importance of actually getting something. It makes me wonder which side they're REALLY on.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:43 PM
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7. Even if the government & Dems won't do anything about it...
There are operatives, who are not tied to campaigns, in place to analyze the raw data for fraud and are collecting evidence of election fraud to blow the lid wide open on it.

Can't say too much, but up to this point, they have already been made and have no idea how far they will fall from the 'Country First' rhetoric.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:51 PM
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10. We're Doomed...
Obama Sucks! ABC and DU told me so.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:40 PM
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20. The point of the article is that they control the media...
Did you read it? Have you heard David Gregory, Stephanopolis, Charlie Gibson, CNN recently? It's all GOOP all the time. McCain is a maverick, Palin reformed Alaska, heck I even saw an ad for Marilyn Musgrave, one of the most vile Bush loving members of Congress saying she was bipartisan and stood up against Republicans who wanted to gut Medicare. Even the MSM hosts use the same terms and the cycle continues.

The article was a call for action. It makes a lot of sense.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:19 PM
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21. It's nothing new to me...
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 09:20 PM by stillcool47
I have reason to be encouraged by the media's aversion to the truth and incessant cheer-leading. My husband who had watched the news every day of his life for 40 years is fed up. He no longer watches it. That is something on the par of a miracle. If it's happening here I know it is happening elsewhere. I am of the belief that the media can only affect this election if we let them. And all the hand-wringing and emails in the world will not change that. We have less than 2 months to get it done.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:24 PM
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14. We might as well dig a grave and shovel the dirt right over ourselves.
Democrats are masochists.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:28 PM
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18. Can you toss some dirt on me on your way past??? I'm ready...(sniffle)
:rofl:
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:11 PM
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25. we can't lose...50 states in 2008, even Alaska. Mark my word.
She'll be off the ticket in a few weeks or sooner. McLame will be 23pts down election day.

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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:55 AM
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32. Well of course at DU we can replace other peoples reality
with our own no matter what the truth may be. So does it even matter?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:59 AM
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33. The question isn't who he sounds like ...
... the question is: Is he right?

So what is this house advantage the Republicans have? It's the press. There is no more fourth estate. Wait, hold on...I'm not going down some esoteric path with theories on the deregulation of the media and corporate bias and CNN versus Fox...I mean it: there is no more functioning press in this country. And without a real press the corporate and religious Republicans can lie all they want and get away with it. And that's the 51% advantage.

Think this is some opinion being wryly posited to titillate other bloggers and inspire dialogue with Tucker Carlson or Gore Vidal? Fuck that. Four corporations own all the TV channels. All of them. If they don't get ratings they get canceled or fired. All news is about sex, blame and anger, and fear. Exposing lies about amounts of money taken from lobbyists and votes cast for the agenda of the last eight years does not rate. The end.


If we had a functioning press, could Palin keep lying about the bridge to nowhere? Could McCain lie constantly about Obama's tax plan? Could he get any tractions out of the lipstick diversion?

If you don't think the press is a major problem, you're not paying attention.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:04 AM
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34. The Pelosi Traitor should have pulled the trigger on the criminals when she had them in her sights.
Instead, she covered for them and played to lose.

This belongs at her feet.
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