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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:59 AM
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So Venezuela and Bolivia have kicked out the U.S. ambassadors to their respective countries
This post from a kos diarist is interesting- and ominous.

Guess who expelled the US ambassador...
by 8ackgr0und N015e
Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 08:54:24 PM PDT
I realize a lot of people have been following the Perils of Palin as she tries to get her foot out of her mouth, or her head out of her butt, or her hand out of the cookie jar...BUT... something is happening that really deserves some adult attention. I'm not talking about the chaos descending on Pakistan. That's all the way over on the other side of the globe. I'm talking about a storm brewing much closer to home.

Venezuela and Bolivia have both thrown the US ambassadors out of their countries. Oh... and by the way... long-range Russian bombers just landed in Venezuela.

Do I have your attention now? I hope so. digg it and jump...

8ackgr0und N015e's diary :: ::
I'm not going to bother translating this YouTube clip in detail. Suffice to say the guy who controls about 10% of America's imported oil called the US "shitty Yankess" and told us to "go to hell a hundred times." That is not new. What is new is he very publicly gave the US ambassador 72 hours to "get the hell out." He has already recalled his ambassador and declared Venezuela will not be sending a new one until there is a new government in the US.

<snip>

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/14/231249/344/986/599054

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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:01 AM
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1. i'd kick them out, too
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:04 AM
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2. I actually hope this story doesn't get much play...

The natural reaction to threats like that (vote in a new government - meaning not McCain - or else) will cause the typical person to want to vote for McCain. It's not really helpful to Obama. And I suspect that Chavez doesn't really want Obama either, he gets a lot of street cred in the Americas by "standing up" to the Neocons and Bushco. What happens if they aren't in power anymore?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:15 AM
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5. Of course Chavez would rather have Obama.
In any case, when the little Bush leaves, he won't take the vultures with him, unfortunately. There'll be plenty of imperialists to kick around.
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:49 AM
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7. no, he wouldn't
chavez needs a bogeyman, just like the us used the soviet union.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:55 AM
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11. He just said he'd send his ambassador back when there was
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 11:56 AM by sfexpat2000
a new government. He clearly meant Obama. And he has plenty of adversaries, in any case, that don't want to see Venezuela democratized.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:05 AM
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3. The white separatists Bush has been bankrolling in Bolivia
had themselves a massacre. They killed between 40 and 70 people. There is no total yet.

I guess Junior is going to burn all the furniture and break all the windows before he leaves.
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:10 AM
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4. School of the Americas WHINSEC
The American equivalent of a training camp for suicide bombers aimed at Central and South America. The level of disrespect for the US is much broader and deeper than a few uncooperative democratic leaders.
http://www.soaw.org/
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 05:34 AM
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6. I was just thinking about posting this Thank You bunches! n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:06 AM
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8. Bingo n/t
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Gillian Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:37 AM
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9. SOA graduates are busy monsters.
From Bolivia
In 1997 Captain Filmann Urzagaste Rodriguez was one of those responsible for the kidnapping and torture of Waldo Albarracin, then the director of the Popular Assembly for Human Rights in Bolivia and now the Human Rights Defender (Ombudsman). In 1999 the Bolivian Chamber of Deputies Commission in charge of investigating the case passed it, together with all the evidence, to the ordinary courts for investigation and prosecution. The case was also the subject of a well-known petition to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (that has not yet been acted upon). In 2002, Urzagaste Rodriguez, now a Major, took a 49-week officer training course at the WHINSEC

From Venezuela
In April 2002 two SOA graduates, Army Commander in Chief Efrain Vasquez and General Ramirez Poveda, helped lead a failed coup in Venezuela. Additionally, Otto Reich, who was named to the "new" school’s Board of Visitors, met with the generals in the months preceding the coup. During the coup Reich advised business leader Pedro Carmona, who subsequently seized the presidency.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:40 AM
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10. Long range Russian bombers? Not to worry. Sarah has seen Russia. nt
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