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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:29 PM Original message |
Analysts I'm hearing are saying the bailout won't make any difference |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. analysts here on DU have been saying that for months |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. It's only been called a bailout for several weeks, but I agree the meltdown |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because analysts are all over the place and many think it will be worse w/o intervention |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. NO you are really removed from the reality on this |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
45. You're not supposed to talk about that! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. If they were gonna use good sense, it wouldnt have |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. 10% isn't 50% |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Have you seen the bank risk list? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That's what this money is to try and prevent |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. How do you feel about bailout money going to foreign banks? eom |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. That is just plain wrong, we have a real rat hole with that policy! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. We created the mess |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. "If I could see they were idiotic" |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. $700 billion can't do it and neither would $750 trillion, there has been a huge fraud perpetrated |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I know, it's a horrible mess |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Who is "we"? Not I, I did not create this. But I know some people who did |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Analysts may be missing that bailout is not directed at the Dow |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I know, but it is directed at buying toxic [a.k.a. worthless] paper from those banks |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Why do you assume that? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I can guarantee that the so called "toxic paper" it just that, shit-box properties |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. And you know this how? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. If you live in America, just step outside and walk around, |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Now this makes more sense. However... |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Who certifies these mortgage securities? No one with any credibility |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Somehow one doubts that you have the sophistication to make "guarantees" |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Right....and over time all of us die and in the meantime life is hard |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. If you want to be taken seriously, then have a go with policy |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Check out the video on today's home page of the Rachel Maddow interview |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Bailing Usually Doesn't, if the Ship is Still Taking On Water |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. That's what many economists - most regular folk - have been SCREAMING since this bullshit bailout |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. The bailout is probably making the DOW fall... |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Uhmmm, another sound fundamental of the economy...T-bills |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. The bailout and the stock market are two different things |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. But connected, selectively dump $700 billion into the coffers of Bush crony slime mold |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Thank you. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. The more open discussions there are the clearer this mess becomes |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Brad Delong seems to think they could also buy equity under this bill. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. That's what Krugman seems to be suggesting in his Rachel Maddow interview |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. Either I am hearing different analysts, or you are misunderstanding them. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. NPR Market Watch analyst said that 10% drop is going to happen |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
21. it'll make a big difference to the wealthy few who end up with |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Tax the shit out of them! |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. The local financial dude put it this way: |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. That has to be considered unacceptable by the voters, we need a real |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-06-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. Absolutely. Rescind the bailout - it was extortion and robbery anyway...and WHY is Paulsen Secy |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Or redirect the bailout, none of the $700 billion has been used yet so freeze it |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
41. Nonsense: it will enable hundreds of top CEOs to get $400 million bonuses |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Cronyism has only a short time left to flourish, so issue it as food stamps and make these bastards |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
42. Information that would have been useful LAST WEEK! |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Congress needed to conduct hearings |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. But it will make things worse. |
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Kartius (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
44. We need to correct this financial crisis no matter what |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Yes, but if your car doesn't start, you don't just automatically assume it is the |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
46. It's not big enough, that's what they're saying...n/t |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. God, I hope this Congress won't fall for that line, we need a real plan |
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findguru (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
53. so nice |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
54. That's Because The Legislation Doesn't Correct The Problems |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
58. This is Just More Proof of the Now-Totally Corrupting Influence of Corporations |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. It seems like scam; even on "good news" the markets fall... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-07-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
60. The bailout will help a handful of private interests and create jobs for Bushies. |
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