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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 11:49 PM
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$2.5 trillion in 6 months and you think your dollar is worth what?
In billions:
850 Bailout
330 FED currency swap-line increase
300 FED TAF increase
300 FHA to refinance distressed mort.
200 Fannie/Freddie bailout
200 FED loans outstanding
144 Fannie/Freddie MBS purchases
87 JP Morgan (from LEH collapse)
85 AIG 1st bailout
37 AIG 2nd bailout
29 Bear Sterns
4 Grant to buy distressed properties
2.566T Total

rock it you magnificent bastards!!!
throw your hand up for the mental midgets, Whoo Hoo..
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 11:54 PM
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1. Golly....
It looks like the bailout could hurt us just as bad as the initial economic
problems.

They should just let everything crash naturally, instead of screwing everything up even
more.

Oh. But that wouldn't allow them to steal billions more before they exit.

This whole thing was orchestrated. Anyone who doesn't think so, needs to follow the history of
deregulation and the new banking and credit card legislation that was written and passed by
these criminals.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 11:56 PM
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2. I suggest you look at the dollar over the past few months before continuing on that line
of argumentation. Also, evidence is that inflation is decelerating a great deal from the torrid pace we had prior to these measures. These have little effect, believe it or not. I could go point by point and explain why, but the market indicators speak for themselves.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:37 AM
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5. The dollar's strength is temporary
In times of great economic uncertainty there is a flight to U.S. Treasuries. The full faith a credit of the United States still has some cachet among global investors. Given the credit contagion rolling across the globe, many feel it is safer to park the wealth they just extracted from their own stock markets in U.S. Treasuries while these things get sorted out, even if returns after inflation are negative (at least their principal is comparatively safe). The catch is, to buy Treasuries, you first have to sell your Euros and Pounds for Dollars, bidding up the price of the dollar and temporarily reversing the long downward trend that existed prior to the crisis. So at this moment the dollar is strengthening. Not because of any fundamental strength in the U.S. economy, but because of a fear in the weakness of their own. Because their currencies do not serve as the world's de facto reserve currency. Because their currencies aren't bolstered by the fact that most of the world's oil is sold in dollars (these last few things establishing a floor under the dollar despite the whir of the printing presses). They know the U.S. government will default on its own citizens (those special Treasury Bonds held by the Social Security Trust Fund) before they'd default on the global investing class. To the global investing class, their principal is relatively safe when invested in Treasuries.

But after the crisis passes, their will be a day of reckoning. There will be calls for IMF-like social austerity programs, shifting of funds from the quality of life of U.S. citizens to pay back the $2.5T in inflated money supply, the $5T borrowed by GWB to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy and illegal invasions of harmless countries. There will be hell to pay. It is step 2 toward the Argentinization of the American economy. We will have a small and powerful economic elite, the lords and barons of a new neo-feudalism, a fairly well off thin sliver of managers and magistrates that serve this economic royalty, then everyone else, the pauperized plenty living paycheck to paycheck (when so lucky as to have a paycheck).

We've entered a new world, a Great Unwinding, and as our government has devolved into a tool to saddle vast costs on the swindled public while funneling the benefits to the well-positioned, well-connected few, guess who gets to bare the pain of this Unwinding? It certainly won't be the Bushies nor McIdiot and his fabulously wealthy second wife.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:01 AM
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3. My dollar just climbed 10% actually...
For where I live...I get a great USD conversion rate now.

You know the USD is on a run, don't you?
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:03 AM
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4. We placed 1/2 of our liquid assets into Brazilian Real CD's
It was a great choice. Latin American markets are relatively differentiated from Euro/Am/Asian markets.

The Real is a VERY stable currency.
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