CT State Supreme Court rules that same-sex couples

[MANative]

have the right to marry! Ban would be unconstitutional!

Breaking now on local news channel - wtnh Channel 8

[youthere]

1. W00T!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

[MANative]

2. Great news - I agree!! n/t

[RadicalTexan]

3. That IS some good news.

:)

[Democat]

4. Good, but timing would be better after the election!

Good news, but 30 days from now would be better timing for the announcement.

Gives the right wing more culture war to make their voters excited.

[JackBeck]

5. You mean like how the New Jersey decision a few years back?

When the Democrats lost their Senate seat because of the decision?

[Marrah_G]

7. The economy is so bad that now is the PERFECT time.

[terrya]

8. Gee, thanks for the 2 minutes we had to celebrate this tremendous victory,

Before the predictable "why couldn't have this waited?" posts kicked in.

This is equality. Equality shouldn't come about on what is perceived political expediency.

[Marrah_G]

9. Try to ignore those comments

It's a time to celebrate a battle long fought and victory well-earned.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. screw you. seriously screw you. nt

[racaulk]

13. Yep, just like the decision in NJ in October 2006 cost Dems the Congress!

:eyes:

Equality is progressive, and there is never a bad time to advance equality in America.

Gay people have been told for YEARS to wait until there is a convenient time to advance their full civil rights. Fuck that noise. We're not waiting anymore, and if you were a true progressive, you would join us.

[Duncan Grant]

14. Fuck the right wing. Isn't it time you stood up to them?

Those of us fighting the culture war sure could use your support about now...

[Book Lover]

16. On the contrary, this is great timing!

This is great timing for our side - liberal values give people hope for a future where there is less discrimination, less hate, and more equality.

[Sabriel]

17. If it were a matter of "good timing," women would still not have the vote

And people of color would have few rights.

Let's face it, there's never a good time for change...it has to happen when it does.

If we have always have to sacrifice basic rights for better timing, then we're more fucked up than I previously assumed.

[FVZA_Colonel]

25. This is Connecticut.

How many fundies can it GOTV for? And besides, everyone knows about those fucking stupid bans in other states, I fail to see how this could give more publicity.

[WhollyHeretic]

27. It's never a bad time for civil rights. As Doctor King said "Rights delayed are rights denied"

[Zuiderelle]

29. Please do not reduce civil rights to a "culture war" like the RW does.

It's insulting to all of us who have been fighting for equality most of our lives.

:eyes:

[hulklogan]

30. Blaming the gays in advance, as usual.

There's always a "better time" for equality in some people's minds, as insane as that is.

[Democat]

32. We need to win this election above all else if anyone wants to keep their rights!

Anything that motivates the right wing to vote in greater numbers right before the election is a concern.

The Supreme Court will make decisions that will affect gays, lesbians, black americans, white americans, poor people around the world, and many other people for the next 50 years. If the Republicans are able to steal this election, they can replace two or three justices with young right wing activists, who will never support gay rights or any other rights that don't come from the bible or their corporate masters.

I know there are people on DU who think that Obama should proudly march in a gay rights parade two days before the election, regardless of whether it costs him the election by losing certain conservative states - just to prove that he is willing to stand up for what he believes in. I prefer a strategy of doing what is needed to win the election first, then doing what we need to do to make the world a better place after we are in power.

All I said was, and I stand by the statement - releasing this positive ruling one day after Obama wins the election would be better than releasing it 30 days before the election. I don't expect everyone to agree, of course.

[garlicmilkshake]

34. For what it's worth...I'm gay and still in a relationship since 1981 and I agree with you.

I understand the impatience very well but sometimes a few weeks one way or the other can make a big difference.
:eyes:

[Democat]

36. Once Obama wins, then we can all agree!

This is only a disagreement about campaign strategy, not about what the final goal is - equal rights for every American! :toast:

[WhollyHeretic]

39. Civil rights are not a campaign strategy.

[hulklogan]

42. The equal rights of American citizens reduced to a "campaign strategy".

Baby JFK is crying right now in his heavenly crib.

[Democat]

43. If you lose this election you lose the Supreme Court

The Supreme Court is the final line of defense on civil rights.

The most important thing is to keep our eyes on the Supreme Court and make sure that Obama is the one who appoints the next group of judges.

There is no reason to keep arguing this as it is an issue out of our control and it's already happened.

[hulklogan]

46. It won't be gay people's fault if we lose this election. Ok?

That is all I'm saying.

Those of you who want to blame the gays for every Democratic election defeat are ignoring the greater issues our party has with winning elections. LBJ signed the civil rights act in an election year and won 486 electoral votes. Democratic candidates can support full equality for all citizens AND win elections at the same time, if they go about it the right way.

[Democat]

49. I haven't blamed gay americans for anything!

I blame stupid voters and wimpy democratic politicians for our losses in the last few presidential elections! Let's hope there will be no one to blame this year because we win! :toast:

[Zuiderelle]

45. A few weeks, a few months, a few years, a few decades, a few lifetimes...

yeah... what's the fucking problem. Why can't we stupid queers just wait for equal rights? Sheesh. How selfish.

[garlicmilkshake]

50. I would gladly give up one month to gain a few years in the long run.

I know instant gratification is seen as a holy birthright by many Americans but it isn't always the best way to accomplish something.
There is an old saw that includes "cut off nose" and "spite." :D

[Zuiderelle]

54. I don't expect lawsuits and Supreme Courts to coordinate their decisions based on election cycles.

So, saying that it would be better if it were a few weeks later, makes no sense to me.

It's just a way for some people to try to take away the sheen of this amazing victory.

[LostinVA]

37. Rights delayed are rights denied

[LostinVA]

31. "Just like NJ cost us the 2006 election, huh?

Get over your selfishness. NOTHING is more important than equal civil rights for ALL Americans. Our whole society is underpinned by this. There is NEVER a "good" political time to ask for rights, so they must be demanded. Something both Dr. King and the Iron-Jawed Angels understood. Be courageous, like they were.

"Rights delayed are rights denied."

MLK, Jr.

[Creideiki]

44. Let's be clear:

Are you saying that gay people shouldn't be around DU or that we shouldn't vote Democratic?

Maybe we shouldn't share your planet with people that are so obviously superior to us?

If California and Florida aren't enough to make you troglodytes happy, then another month won't make you any happier.

[JonLP24]

47. FUCK TIMING

Would you say in 1860 abolishing slavery is a good idea but would be better later?

FUCK what is unpopular and do what is RIGHT

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[davidinalameda]

52. looks like someone has left his bridge unattended

do you need to go back

[Marrah_G]

6. Wooooooooo--- Congrats to CT

That makes almost all of the North East with either gay marriage or at least civil unions !

What wonderful news !

[Ioo]

11. LINK

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27117467/

[MountainLaurel]

12. Great news!

And I'm glad they addressed the Constitutional issue so directly.

[myrna minx]

15. This is excellent news! Now we just have to ensure that the good people of California

vote NO on prop 8. :woohoo:

[Marnieworld]

18. NICE!

One state at a time! It will happen! Yay! :woohoo:

[Sebastian Doyle]

19. Good News!

Any comment from Holy Joe yet? ;)

[MANative]

22. No comments from LIEberman that I've heard... now if we

could only find a way to remove him before his term is up. Paired with this good news, that would make CT a whole lot better place!

[gaspee]

20. It's about time

Every one of the bans is unconstitutional. There is no reasoning other than religion to deny marriage rights to same-sex couples.

Last time I checked, we didn't live in a theocracy.

[MANative]

24. Completely agree!

Sadly, there have been numerous LTTEs in my local paper actually calling for amending the Constitution to establish a theocracy. Never knew there were so many nut fundies here in CT. They seem to be hanging out in Litchfield Cty.

[brendan120678]

38. What paper is that?

I'm in Waterbury, CT and the paper here - Republican-American - gets those pretty frequently. Thankfully, there are plenty of sane, rational LTTE's to balance out the right-wing editorials and other letters & commentaries.

[MANative]

41. the News-Times for the Danbury/New Fairfield/New Milford

area. There's some liberal balance and lots of "what the hell are you thinking/drinking?" replies, but way too many RW letters for my taste. Most of these seem to come from New Fairfield, Ridgefield and New Milford.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Religion shouldn't be a reason either.

[Zuiderelle]

21. WONDEFUL! Good for them. And the TIMING is PERFECT!

Maybe our new president will take heed.

Go Connecticut! :patriot:

[Sisaruus]

23. Victory rally this evening in Hartford

5:30pm in Hartford. Supporters from around the state will gather at the north steps of the Capitol in Hartford to show support for the CT Supreme Court's decision.

Thank you Anne and all the good people at Love Makes a Family (www.lmfct.org).

[WhollyHeretic]

26. Nice to hear some great news.

:bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :party: :party: :applause: :applause:
I am very happy for all my fellow Connecticutians that now will have equal rights to marry the one they love. No more of this "separate but equal" crap.

[BrainStorm]

28. YES!!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!!

[pleah]

33. K&R Great news!

Wooohoooo!:woohoo:

[TooRaLoo]

40. YEAH!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[upi402]

48. And Leiberman is eating a bug

Cool! Congrats CT, I'm impressed.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

53. President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in an ELECTION year

He knew it would cost him votes -he predicted that Democrats would perform poorly in the South. But he placed principles over pragmatism and was prepared to wear the electoral consequences for doing what was right.

If the world waited until the time was perfect before acting, we'd never get anything done.