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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:48 PM
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Will Someone Read My Post And Follow My Logic And Explain To Me
why Repugs don't get this?


More People Employed

Means

They Are Paying More Taxes Into The System

Means

They Have Money To Buy Goods

Means

Those That Sell Goods Make More Money

Means

That More Sales Tax Is Collected On Those Sales

Means

That Sales Taxes Help Pay For Necessary Government Services

Also Means

Those That Sell Goods Have To Buy Raw Materials To Make Goods & Have To Employ More People To Make Those Goods Because Of Demand For Goods

Means

More People Are Put To Work To Start The Cycle All Over Again

Also – If People Are Paid More At Their Jobs

They Pay More Taxes

Which Further Helps To Pay For Necessary Government Services & Maybe Even Allow For Some Additional Government Services

And Allows Them To Buy Even More Goods To Fuel The System

Now On The Other Hand If

When People Are Unemployed

The Government Has To Outlay Money For A Period Of Time In Unemployment Compensation

People Have To Make Decisions As To What They Can Afford And Not Afford

People Stop Buying Most Goods

Prices Go Up To Compensate For Lack Of Sales

Which May Cause Other Marginal People To Stop Buying Goods They Now Can’t Afford

Companies Start Laying Off Or Firing People Because Of Lack Of Sales

Raw Material Sales Go Down

Unemployment Spirals Up

Income Tax, Sates Tax Revenues Go Down

Necessary Government Services Are Cut

Even Local Governments Have To Cutback Services Or Raise Prices For Services

All Of A Sudden Those Rich People That Own Companies Start Feeling The Pain As Their Income Decreases

And we spiral out of control.

So – what am I missing here? If people don’t have jobs or money – even those at the top begin to start feeling the pain. Doesn't it make sense to continually raise the minimum wage?

The only time this thing works and works good is if we all cooperate and fuel the system with jobs and good pay. What is so hard to understand about this?

Why don’t companies want to pay people well? Don’t they realize that the more they help fuel the system the more they in fact will benefit?

Why do they want to eradicate the ‘middle class’? Who will buy their goods?

Would somebody try to rationally explain – why most wealthy American’s and Repugs want to keep the poor and middle class down?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:52 PM
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1. TERRORIST! Why do you hate America?!?!?!
Logic is a brain function that evades Republicans.

Something defective in their DNA, perhaps? :shrug:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:01 PM
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2. That is American economics in a nutshell. Well done!
The only reason why so many people don't get what you have so clearly and concisely illustrated is that they are too busy clinging on to what little they have out of a desperate fear that "they" are gonna take it away. So they oppose taxes at every level. They don't understand that many corporations and enormously wealthy Americans have gotten away with using our infrastructure and not paying their fair share, and that needs to be remedied for the good of us all.

What you've outlined is precisely why our economy always does better under Democrats. When the masses have enough money to spend money, (almost) everybody wins. Oh for the good old Clinton days when everybody had a job and houses on the market had multiple offers and sold in a matter of minutes.
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:16 PM
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3. The fundamental problem is in short-term vs. long-term thinking
Everything you've detailed here is absolutely correct - if you're viewing the situation as a long-term scenario. The problem with unregulated capitalism is that very few people are apparently capable of doing so, when money is concerned.

The short-term outlook is what these people invariably focus on:

Lower Taxes for Big Business + Lower Wages for Employees + Less Benefits = Greater Profit Margin = More Money For Me

Greed is a short-term mindset, often at the detriment of what would be a greater long-term gain.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:28 PM
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5. Dang you beat me to it
I completely agree. If you look at Wall St. Everything is measured on projections of profit on a quarterly basis. That is the epitome of the Republican mindset. If they can make money in the short term, they are happy. Corporations don't care about making money by being the best, they just want to look like the best. They see workers not as assets but expenditures. It is really all about making money in the short term so that more capital is infused into the coffers. The future to these people is what you can gain in the short term, not what is best to build wealth in a stable way.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:17 PM
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4. In old two class systems
The rich lived grandly while the poor ran around grabbing crumbs in exchange for their services. Live was easy, for the rich.

Under a three class system, the rich have to actually produce something for the middle class to buy. In order to get money the rich have to actually do something. Too much work.


Just eliminate the middle class, give all the wealth to the elite and the world will be a much better place, for the rich.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:42 PM
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6. I think anyone who wants to talk about the economy
and project any level of authority should be forced to pass a thermodynamics exam. The concept of "trickle-down" would disappear instantly.
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