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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:37 PM
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Jeez! This CINDY MCCAIN Profile from the NYT is BRUTAL
You can bet that the McCain campaign is not going to like this profile of Cindy McCain. The piece practically calls her depressed and unloved and hints their marriage is weak.

> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/18/us/politics/18cindy.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

Cindy McCain, the wife of the Republican presidential nominee, has spent the last year pursuing a return to Washington: “a harsh town” that does not suit her, she has said.

Nor does campaigning, friends say. She has done relatively few solo events, grants interviews reluctantly— she declined to speak for this article — and in introducing her husband at events, she offers few of the heartwarming anecdotes that are the stock in trade of the political spouse. When she finishes, she stands silently behind Mr. McCain, sometimes with an approving smile, sometimes looking strained.

<snip>

Mrs. McCain, 54, describes herself as her husband’s best friend, though for the last two decades they have mostly lived apart, she in Arizona, he in Washington. She seemed like an ideal political partner initially, giving Mr. McCain a home state, money and contacts that jump-started his career. But as the years passed, Mrs. McCain also became a liability at times. She played a role in the Keating Five savings-and-loan scandal, and just as her husband was rehabilitating his reputation, she was caught stealing drugs from her nonprofit organization to feed her addiction to painkillers. She has a vast fortune that sets the McCains apart from most other Americans, a problem in a presidential race that hinges on economic anxieties. She can be imprecise: she has repeatedly called herself an only child, for instance, even though she has two half-siblings, and has provided varying details about a 1994 mercy mission to Rwanda.

<snip>

Recently, Mrs. McCain has called the separations painful, volunteering that she endured several miscarriages alone. She spent subsequent pregnancies mostly confined to home, Ms. Ross said, sitting in a favorite stuffed chair, watching videos from a huge library. But she rarely complained. “Her attitude was as a good soldier,” Mr. Gullet said.

<snip>

Observers of that campaign and the current one say she seems different this time — more guarded, more tense, superthin. She rarely campaigns away from her husband’s side, and yet their interactions on the trail often appear brief and formal. During the rolling primary-season seminars that Mr. McCain held in the back of his bus, Mrs. McCain sat up front. Once in a while, she joined him, sitting very straight, smiling and saying little. Physically, she seems fragile: she suffers from migraines, hobbled around on crutches last year after a knee injury and recently wore a wrist brace because of a handshaking injury.


I'm reminded of McCain's Rolling Stone profile, which cited this diary entry from a staffer:
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Tom Gosinski, a young Republican, kept a detailed journal while working as director of government affairs for the charity. "I am working for a very sad, lonely woman whose marriage of convenience to a U.S. senator has driven her to . . . cover feelings of despair with drugs," he wrote in 1992.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:41 PM
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1. she deserves it, she is hideous
and a troll
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:44 PM
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3. My sister calls her "plastic barbie"
It fits: cold, hard, no heart, no emotions.

She must be one miserable woman.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:48 PM
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7. I've seen too many women built like her
suffer terribly from osteoporosis, something that is happening to her just about now.

Older women aren't meant to starve themselves that thin to keep an older husband from wandering.

She looks ill. I'm not going to trash her.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 11:26 PM
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23. she reminds me of pat nixon with less dignity and self control
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:12 PM
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13. That's not a reason to deserve anything really
Except maybe a makeover.

Just sayin'.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:41 PM
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2. can 2 adulterers really be happy married to each other? nt
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:46 PM
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6. That never 'really works out very well, does it?"
adultery, I mean.
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:33 PM
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79. Ditto
Cindy knew McCain was married when she started her affair with him. Maybe the guilt of him leaving his handicapped wife for her is eating at her. Plus she might wonder what kind of man she married who would do such a thing. Perhaps she has gotten what she deserves.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:45 PM
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4. John McInsane seems like a cold bastard of a husband
to his former and current wives. I do feel for Cindy, I don't think she really wants to go back to DC. However, she made her bed with McInsane and now has to lie in it.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:49 PM
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80. I agree , he has done wrong by TWO women
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 04:53 PM by on the EDGE
but I feel for Cindy too. It sounds like she hasn't had a great life. How funny with all that money and the good she could have done with it to help people and maybe somehow fill whatever she is missing.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:46 PM
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5. The aspiration to be Princess Di --weird and creepy.
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Abugface Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:49 PM
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8. No surprises here, expect both McCain and ...
Palin to divorce after the election. John is HOT for Sarah.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:07 PM
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12. John may have the hots for Sarah, but if they win the election -
God helps us all- I think she would like to see him dead!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:51 PM
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9. My impression has always been a pitiful barbie kept in a glass box for display.
:shrug: I feel sorry for her. :shrug:
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:13 PM
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63. typical trophy wife.
Say what I tell you to say and look good.
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:52 PM
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10. been wondering -
does anyone know if there was any type of service held when her half-sister passed away recently - if so - did cindy attend?
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:17 PM
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15. I thought I saw where she was still on the campaign trail.
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:57 PM
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11. How's that saying...
Reap & Sow, amirite?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:15 PM
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14. What a sick couple.
How much better (and how much more truly American) Barack and Michelle look next to these two emotional cripples. Add in the Palins and you have a truly pathetic group of losers. Has the DSM classified being Republican as a mental illness yet? If not, it's time.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:26 PM
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19. Add in the Bushes and Cheneys and you've got a trifecta, plus one.
It's been sick and creepy at the top of the Republican Party for a long long long time.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:20 PM
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16. She looks crappy for 54
Trying too hard- I guess it's hard to be a trophy for that long.

I'm 6 years younger than she is but she looks 20 years older than i am ( I look kinda young for my age and she looks kinda old!)

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:23 PM
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18. Is she really only 54? I would have guessed at least ten years older.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:42 AM
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30. When I found a few months ago that she was 3 years younger than me, I was shocked.
I look at least 15 years younger than her.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:22 PM
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66. She looks as old as I do when you look at her close up.
I am sixty-two, over weight and suffering from heart congestion, complications from the heart problems, and cancer and yet I don't think she looks that much better than I do. Well, except for her figure;) and her clothes (which I don't like), but as far as her face is concerned.........no, I don't think she looks as young as her age. I do think she is very unhappy and that she is a prisoner of her own choices in life. I don't like her, but I feel sorry for her.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:08 PM
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71. She is very sad and I do have some compassion for her on one level
but contempt on another. If she was married to someone who was not in the public light, and that person would have no affect on the lives of others and the future of the world, she would have my sympathy...not knowing how to get out of a bad marriage, as many women can't emotionally. But if she shares his views or is just supporting him to be the dutiful wife with no conscience, when our country is going to hell, she made her bed and can lie in it.

When McInsane started to embrace Shrub after the 2000 election, I couldn't believe she didn't divorce him.

As to you (((((((rebel with a cause))))))) my best thoughts are with you.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:22 PM
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72. Yeah, I was trying to be a little kind toward her.
But her staying with him while he does this, and her getting up and saying what she has said about Obama, does not give her much room in my sympathy. You will also note that I said sympathy and not empathy, because I have absolutely no empathy toward her at all. I would be no part of what they are doing. Yes, come to think of it, she is as scummy as he is.

Thanks for your best thoughts. I am going okay at the moment. Not great but okay and better than I have been at times. :)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:59 PM
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76. It's funny that you used the word empathy as I tend to be very empathetic.
I feel no connection to her at all. It's as if there is a black hole where her soul resides.

As to you, okay is good! Another hug!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:21 PM
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17. I feel sad for Cindy McCain. She seems miserable.
She really epitomizes the "poor little rich girl." I suspect that she has had a very sad and lonely life.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:32 PM
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20. 54!? I am 55 and look it. She looks 74.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 10:34 PM by roody
Just googled her. She is 54!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:41 PM
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21. Am I the only one who finds it odd how she shadows him constantly
At every speech, rally, visit to a factory, etc.----she is no more than 3 feet from his side. She's always in the background when he's speaking on camera. It just looks strange to me.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:59 AM
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61. No, you're not the only one
She also has a very strange way of walking when she's next to him. It's as if she's lurching sideways towards him all the time and having to catch herself. There is something in her actions around him that makes me think she's guarding him and making sure his physical defects don't show up.

In 2000 he always had her at his side and at every rally you could see them holding hands while they raised their arms the way people do after a speech when everyone is cheering. At that time I felt that particular action was a dissimulation to get the audience to think it was handclasp between spouses but that in reality it was Cindy lifting John's arm to that level because he couldn't do it himself. Now it's probably impossible for him to lift his arms even with help.

When FDR was running he held onto his son's arm and it fooled everyone about his paralysis. He was literally held up by his son.

You can see that when they disembark from an airplane she is in front of him and going down very slowly making it look like she's the fragile one who has to navigate the stairs when it's probably to cover for the fact that he can't go down the stairs easily. If you watch for this stuff it's not hard to spot.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:47 PM
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22. She's a typical poor little rich girl like Barbara Hutton or Doris Duke
with zero self esteem which manifests itself in hypochondria and melancholia. She's got a man she'll never leave, even though he treats her like s**t. If he's elected she'll most likely hate Washington, after redecorating the White House in Arizona style, and go back to her beach condo in San Diego, leaving Gramps in D.C.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 11:38 PM
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24. If she is suffering physically and emotionally as much as is claimed, one would think she'd have
more empathy for those suffering from PTSD. But no, she dismissed the vast numbers of the afflicted as "18-year-old draftees who didn't know what they were doing".

My dad, who was a highly trained 28-year-old officer who volunteered for service in Vietnam, has been turned inside-out by PTSD. It's not something to dismiss so casually.

The bitch is dead to me. I can't bring myself to care for whatever perceived problems she has. Just cry all the way to the bank already, Cindy. If you're broken, it's because you're brittle...
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 06:15 AM
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25. Kick
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 06:19 AM
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26. Wonder how soon they'll divorce after McCain loses?
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:08 AM
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27. I read the whole article.
These two aren't getting divorced...unless maybe she gets into a debilitating car accident first...

oh, I'm bad.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:09 AM
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28. lololol You are bad
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:25 AM
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29. I'll Bet She Detests Sarah Barracuda
This is a damning and very sad article. Camp Gramps is already out with the sliming machine aimed at the NYTimes again. Methinks the Ayers bullshit is a cover for this story and the other hypocricies and messes inside this very inept campaign.

The Beer Queen surely feels she's due...she spent all this time and money and her focus has been on being First Lady...she's so close, yet so far. I saw this at the RNC...this was supposed to be her party...the new "Queen" of the repugnicans with her fancy dresses and jewelry. Everything was going fine until this Alaskan hussy came along. No longer was VicoCindy "the" woman, but now had a diminished role as the "Hockey Mom" got all the attention.

I've gotten a kick watching Cindy's body language...especially around Palin. You rarely see them converse and they're usually on opposite sides of the stage from one another. If looks could kill, those Ice Queen eyes of VicoCindy would have bore a lazer beam through her head in Minneapolis. One can imagine, with the campaign not going well, there's gotta be a lot of animosity growing...and Cindy seeing her chance of being the "Queen" of the world being squandered by a loud-mouthed attention whore. I'll bet a bright shiny dime that's a story we're sure to hear about after this campaign is over.

I find it so strange that Gramps can never campaign by himself. He always needs someone near by...if it's not the Beer Queen, it's Joementum or Goober Graham...it's as if he's not secure enough in himself but always needs someone nearby.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:45 AM
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31. When McShame started to embrace GWB after the 2000 election, I made comments then, if
I were his wife, I'd divorce him.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:45 AM
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32. She would make a good subject for a movie.
No jokes about Terminator 3, I was thinking more of a serious biopic.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:55 AM
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33. Cindy McCain is 54?
Wow, she looks about 10 years older. I don't know many 54 year olds that spend so much effort trying to look younger, especially when they are married to a withered up old man.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:46 AM
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44. You are right--she looks about 64 trying to look 44....and I'm
not trying to be mean....I think she'd look good, and younger, if she looked more 'natural.'

She has a pretty face/bone structure....I'd bet she'd look great if she allowed her hair to be less bleached, ate like a normal human (she's too thin...) and wore clothes that didn't seem so stiff....

But who am I? Perhaps she is comfortable with herself and the image she portrays......


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:38 AM
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53. Just because you can afford all the plastic surgery
in the world doesn't mean you should go ahead and have it. Honestly, I think it makes some women look older. As does too much tanning.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:08 PM
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62. She looks older than 54?
Pleeease. Who on Earth are you comparing her with? Hollywood actresses? Lots of them had work done.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:55 AM
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59. I disagree - she is a beautiful woman and if anything looks young for her age
She was gorgeous when young. That and the fact that she is incredibly wealthy would explain why she has made the effort to dress and look younger.

There are many things to criticize Cindy McCain for - starting this really isn't one. From this story and the RS one, I feel a little sorry for her. I wonder if her dad pushed her to go after McCain after he chased her in Hawaii when they first met. She may have well been more of a pawn than anything.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:26 PM
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73. I was surprised she was 54...he makes her look older
The problem with marrying an old geezer, I guess.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:55 AM
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34. I feel really bad for her.
Whoever had Cindy before McCain came along crippled her. I'm sorry people, but I just can't hate her.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 08:53 AM
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35. She strikes me as a tragic figure after reading this article.
It's hard to believe she's only 54 - she seems a lifetime older than that. When she was talking about her husband at the republican national convention, she said something similar to 'a man I love with all my heart' and it didn't strike me as sincere. We all lay down in the beds we've made I guess.
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:43 AM
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43. I can't resist the human impulse toward empathy.
Honestly, I know she is on the side that is against just about everything I stand for, the party that has ridden that reactionary Nixonite wave for decades and is about to wipe out in a spectacular way, but I still can't avoid agreeing that she is, somehow, a tragic figure. A very talented author - someone with the skill and sensitivity of Ethan Canin, for example (do read his novel America America, by the way, it's brilliant) would adapt that story perfectly as a distinctly American form of tragedy, once it all comes to its seemingly inevitable unhappy end.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 08:59 AM
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36. i know he used her for social climbing, but still can't fathom what she ever saw in that bastard.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:47 AM
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46. She was very young....I bet she fell for the "my wife doesn't understand
me" line.....
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:57 AM
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60. Her very rich dad, may have seen the "war hero" as someone he could
he could establish as "his" politician.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:15 PM
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70. That's how it usually works at that level. (nt)
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 05:44 PM
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81. She saw her Daddy, I suspect.
She is a self-described "daddy's girl", so much so that she refers to herself as her father's only child, despite having two half-siblings.

Despite my negative feelings for her, I will give her credit for the one good thing she did, adopting Bridget. I don't begin to understand her motivation, but I seriously doubt that child would have lived to grow up without Cindy's intervention.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:02 AM
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37. ...
:nopity:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:04 AM
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38. replace michelle obama's name for cindy's and imagine how the msm would respond
this would be wall to wall coverage
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:15 AM
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39. I'm Gonna Get Flamed For This
but, even though she was a homewrecker and has issues with her family, she seems to be a very sad woman. Going through a miscarriage is a painful ordeal, much less to do so without your partner there with you to help you through that time. I think that she is a sad, lonely woman whose heart is just not in this race and would rather be left alone. Maybe I am off base, but as much as I lothe some of the things that she has done, I pity her as a person. Flame away.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:50 AM
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47. Why would you be flamed? It seems like the choices she made
in her life aren't ones that have really brought her happiness or a sense of self-worth.....


That's sad. It's also sad that someone with her resources doesn't seem to have used them to help herself....
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:18 AM
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40. This is one of the saddest things I've ever read
What a terrible life this woman has led. I feel so sorry for her. :(

Yes, I know she chose this life, but no one should be condemned to suffering like that. A good reminder that money and power doesn't buy happiness. I'd rather be a poor nobody than have her life.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:54 AM
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48. From what I can see, I don't think she was ever raised to value herself.
She has a few good qualities, but she has not managed her life well, IMO. Her charitable is redeeming, but apparently it wasn't enough to make her happy. And yes, she doesn't look healthy. Her legs look really thin, as if there is little muscle there. I wonder what her bone density test looks like.

She needs alot of long sessions on the couch to figure out what is really important to her. I don't think being First Lady to that nasty man will do it. I'm not sure he is capable of love (the emotion).

I wonder what they would think, knowing that so many of us middle class folks actually feel at least a little sorry for her?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:15 AM
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51. Thanks for your post
I was afraid I was going to get slammed for being a bleeding heart and "wasting" compassion on Cindy.

I agree that she is trying to be a good person, at least according to this article, but she doesn't know where to start or how to go about it. And her lack of self-worth and confidence is something that definitely started early in life (gee I wonder what her family life was like) but was made worse by the way McCain treated her all these years. Heck, what kind of a woman except one with no confidence would stay with a man who called her a c***?

I had her pegged with osteoporosis or arthritis a while back. My mom commented about how she seems to hold herself and walk so stiffly (lulz--this, coming from a vigorous 83YO woman who still mows her own lawn--no rider mower, either), and I posited that she was probably in physical pain. So frail. She hasn't taken care of herself for quite some time, IMO. I can't believe she's only 54--I thought she was at least 10 years older than that.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:27 AM
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52. I read that she suffered a stroke
a few years back. She went through quite a bit of therapy/rehabilitation to regain mobility. If I recall correctly, she went to California and was pretty much alone for the whole ordeal.

I feel sorry for her, too, and I am very pleased to see so many compassionate posts here. True, genuine compassion is what sets us apart from "compassionate conservatives".
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:54 AM
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58. I remember something about this -- was it a stroke or aneurysm like
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 11:54 AM by Ilsa
Joe Biden's? Maybe that is part of the cause of her body stiffness. There are some things that even the best rehab can't conquer.

I can't imagine how difficult it must be to be married to John Jet-crasher. There is waaaay too much machismo-attitude happening there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:32 AM
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57. I appreciate both your and Ilsa's posts.
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 11:32 AM by redqueen
I can't believe that any compassion is ever wasted. Compassion is boundless.
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:26 PM
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68. I agree completely
she seems sad and depressed and manifesting physical problems because of it.
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gingersnaps1 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:26 AM
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41. The campaign is going to be pissed off...
This piece is really brutal.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:08 PM
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77. They already are, going by their "response"
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003875515

"Today the New York Times launched yet another in a series of vicious attacks on Senator John McCain, this time targeting not the candidate, but his wife Cindy. Under the guise of a 'profile' piece, the New York Times fails to cover any new ground or provide any discernible value to the reader other than to portray Mrs. McCain in the worst possible light. Though Mrs. McCain's battle with drug addiction and even her miscarriages are again reported, the paper entirely ignores a life devoted to family and charity work in the most impoverished and violent corners of the world -- except when a detail can be quibbled with so as to imply some kind of deceit. This campaign made every effort to share personal accounts of Mrs. McCain's good works with the paper, but apparently they were deemed unfit for publication in the New York Times. This is gutter journalism at its worst -- an unprecedented attack on a presidential candidate's spouse.

"In order to assemble this barrage of petty and personal attacks, the New York Times employed tactics that are obviously unprofessional and almost certainly unethical. This campaign has obtained a copy of an email sent by New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor to a 16-year-old girl and friend of Bridget McCain, the youngest of the McCain children. Ms. Kantor sought to dupe the unsuspecting minor by soliciting ‘advice' on how best to approach the story, as if a top-flight investigative reporter at the New York Times would need the assistance of an underage girl in writing a hit piece.

"The New York Times has stooped lower than this campaign ever imagined possible in an attempt to discredit a woman whose only apparent sin is being married to the man that would oppose that paper's preferred candidate, Barack Obama, in his quest for the Presidency. It is a black mark on the record of a paper that was once widely respected, but is now little more than a propaganda organ for the Democratic party. The New York Times has accused John McCain of running a dishonorable campaign, but today it is plain to see where the real dishonor lies." --McCain-Palin spokesman Michael Goldfarb
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Spritz57 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:36 AM
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42. After reading the article and seeing her,
she strikes me as the classic abused wife. Her injuries and drug abuse made me suspicious. With all her resources, I wonder why they are apart so often and why she has had to endure so much on her own. (If memory serves me correctly, they own a condo in the D.C. area). Many have commented, as did I, about John McCain bounding down the stairs to latch onto Joe Lieberman after the last debate, leaving a frail Cindy in her pumps to navigate those carpeted steps on her own. When contrasted with the Obamas' coupled exit, I believe it spoke volumes.

I also wonder if McCain will treat Sarah Palin similarly. Much as been written here about the their campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan without conferring with Palin, so I wonder if a pattern is emerging. I cannot imagine such a decision in the Obama campaign would be reached without Biden's involvement.

For fear of sounding coy, "Who is the real McCain", and what do we really know about him?
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:46 AM
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45. i'm empathetic
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 09:48 AM by hiphopnation23
in the sense that human suffering of any sort invokes sadness and pity

but she's a big girl, responsible for her own happiness, or lack thereof

i'd rather spend my empathy on iraqi civilians or displaced new orleans residents or scores of others in the world who are, frankly, more deserving




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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:16 PM
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65. Empathy is boundless and never wasted
There is plenty to go around. Being empathetic is like being able to love. It truly is limitless. Feeling sorry for Cindy McCain when you imagine her going through miscarriages alone doesn't take away from feeling sorry for what the people of Iraq are suffering. Or for caring deeply about starving children, African's with Aids not getting enough help, or Afghany women being forced to wear burkas.

The thing we must guard against is to fall into the habit of thinking we must hate 'them'. That will never solve the problems. That kind of thinking is what's caused the problems.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 05:51 PM
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83. My favorite definition of evil = lack of empathy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 09:56 AM
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49. i think this article says much about John McCain, he really comes off as cold
and uncaring.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:14 AM
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50. She seems robotic. The repug female icon
I was watching an old Joan Crawford movie and thought about how certain role models still influence
the repug female image.

Old Jane Wyman, Joan Crawford, Nancy Reagan personas come to mind, brought to life again by heavily made up, waxen images like MBachman, Palin, and KHarris.
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:14 AM
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56. Pictures
I'd like pictures of the 54 year olds with whom you are comparing Cindy McCain.

She doesn't look older than 54. She does look a bit plastic. She is thin. She looks much younger with her hair down, which is probably why she wears it up.

She's a sad case. She has allowed herself to be subservient and subordinate. It looks as if she protects herself with a cold front, and she looks as if she'd shatter if someone accidently fell into her. She became McCain's wife at a very young age. I feel really really sorry for her. Even if she becomes the First Lady, which I sincerely doubt, she is still subservient and subordinate. Even her wealth wasn't something she earned on her own. I bet she wonders about her value every single day. She looks and acts cold, uncomfortable with herself, and miserable.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:47 AM
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54. The Times clearly thinks it's safe now
Some of the truth can leak out now, just a couple of weeks before the blowout that is going to be the 2008 general election - albeit on Saturday, the least-followed news day of the week. I wonder what sort of impact it might have had in the primaries had this sort of story been filed when people were actually paying attention? It's not like there's anything "new" in the story, and most of it has been in the public domain for quite some time.

Has the Times made another editorial decision not to affect the outcome of an election by sitting on another story? I guess having an electorate that's too informed and able to make decisions based on complete information isn't nearly as important as making sure that Times reporters can enjoy that good, good, good McThuselah barbecue.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:03 AM
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55. Cindy really needs a burger and a sandwich.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:15 PM
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64. Great Article! She's a mean little thing and I have no pity on her! n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:23 PM
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67. Palin's crowds must scare Cindy
She's lead a very sheltered life in the rarified upper strata of society and I'm sure she's never been in the same room with ignorant rednecks before. I know Palin has because there's that photo of her with all the people wearing furs with their horned Viking hats. I bet she's glad to have the secret service close by. I would be, and I've know a few idiocracy candidates.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:26 PM
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69. She probably is doing drugs again. I read an article about her that said she is "wild."
I take that to mean she is either back on the drugs or is having affairs or both.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:46 PM
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74. It is obvious that McLame has no respect for her.
When she teased him about his thinning hair he got angry & said that at least he didn't pile makeup on like a trollop & called her a cunt. This seems like a business marriage. Her emotions are flat. She is most likely on strong anti-depressant meds.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:58 PM
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75. Pics of the ice princess herself
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 04:01 PM by rainbow4321
The pics are in the Friday, OCT. 17, 2008 AT 8:29 AM entry

Take a look. Ignore all the "fake smiles for the camera" pols in these pics and focus on the lady in red (how could you miss her in that outfit). Cindy looks NOT very happy. At all. Not pre debate, sure as hell not post debate. Arms crossed, distancing herself from everyone, especially from McCain. Anyone get the feeling from her that if CINDY is not happy, NO ONE is gonna be happy.
Guess they figured the post-debates (from the PREVIOUS debate) of the group hiding backstage looking glum and angry watching (on a backstage TV) the Obamas being surrounded by the picture taking/smiling audience (those pics are also on the website further down) didn't make for good behind the scenes blog pics. So now they post the rah-rah-fake-smile-we-won pics.

http://mccainblogette.com/

One of the pics:

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:10 PM
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78. recently wore a wrist brace because of a handshaking injury.
How do you injure yourself shaking someones hand? Is this woman Samuel L Jackson from Unbreakable?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 05:47 PM
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82. She's crashing, give her some more drugs!
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